Heroin 0 for 3 in hitting my vein

[nycfc]

I am about 30 pounds overweight so my veins are impossible to find. I have shot 3 times in the crook of my arm in the past 24 hours, AND MISSED ALL 3 TIMES! every time, I gave up and just shot it bc the needle was getting so blunt it was either shoot it or lose it (or at least thats how i looked at it at the time).

I have never successfully mainlined, but the 3 times I shot and missed I got high. It just took about 10-15 min. Now both crooks of my arm are sore as hell, tracked to shit and I have 2 bags left. The only veins I see are the ones in my hand. I keep reading forums and people r saying that hitting ur hand veins are hard.

Do you get as high eventually, without the rush, when you miss? Its not like Im setting out to miss, but I gotta figure something out.

Also, my boy told me to draw up 20 units for one bag, i mix it up, but when i put it through the filter it comes back as like 12-13 units. that normal?

 

[MemphisX3]

when you miss a shot the body still obsorbs the chemicals and it still hits you. its call IM or intramuscular. there is no rush with this. when you hit the vein the blood carries it to your brain and it breaches the blood barrier at a fast pace which produces the rush.

as for your veins, there are many different places to hit. if you cant hit your crook take a hot shower put a turniquate (sp?) close to your left hand and watch the veins in your hand pop out. make sure you try to hit between ring and index finger with the spike pointing toward your body.

dont do a whole bag, do like 1/2 a bag and see how that goes.


if you IMd a shot recently dont iv. its dangerous and you wont get a rush anyway cuz your receptor already have dope in them. wait a good 4 hours and try again.


i tell you to use your hand be3cause if you are overwieght like me it is more difficult to find and hit veins. atleast you can see the ones in your hand and im telling your to put the spike toward yours body so you dont go thru the vein and have to drag the spike. if you go toward your body and go to far you will still be in the vein.


pro tip: if you try to hit somewhere and you initially miss, pull back the plunger a little bit, this will cause a suction. now kind of "drag" the rig where the vein might be, once you are in blood will automatically go into the syringe, make sure it FLOWS in and doesnt drip. sometimes you can hit a little bit of the vein and miss some of the shot



hope this helps

 

[caseface99]

^^ If you pull back the plunger and drag the rig back, then register, that means you punctured through the vein which A, can cause Thrombosis, and B, means there will most likely be leakage of blood and drugs if you're wearing a tourniquet.

I can't say i haven't done this myself before, but I wouldn't ever do it again now that i am educated about it.

Just do pushups and and jumping jacks, then put on a tourniquet and flex. If it really doesn't work take a hot shower and repeat.


Plus OP, once you hit a vein a couple times you will know where it is and it will be a hell of a lot easier. While your pushing in, focus really carefully and you should be able to feel it hit resistance than lose resistance as it punctures the vein, and practically feel the puncture itself.


Welcome to Bluelight!

This thread is almost identical, it probably has a lot of good advice.

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=525181

 

[MemphisX3]

^^ If you pull back the plunger and drag the rig back, then register, that means you punctured through the vein which A, can cause Thrombosis, and B, means there will most likely be leakage of blood and drugs if you're wearing a tourniquet.

I can't say i haven't done this myself before, but I wouldn't ever do it again now that i am educated about it.

Just do pushups and and jumping jacks, then put on a tourniquet and flex. If it really doesn't work take a hot shower and repeat.


Plus OP, once you hit a vein a couple times you will know where it is and it will be a hell of a lot easier. While your pushing in, focus really carefully and you should be able to feel it hit resistance than lose resistance as it punctures the vein, and practically feel the puncture itself.


Welcome to Bluelight!

This thread is almost identical, it probably has a lot of good advice.

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=525181

i told him about he drag because he is a beginner. once he gets a feel of where his veins are and what it feels like when he punctures one he wont have to do the drag technique.


i should have mentioned that when you register, release the touniquet before driving it home.....

 

[TwoOnSmack]

Also, my boy told me to draw up 20 units for one bag, i mix it up, but when i put it through the filter it comes back as like 12-13 units. that normal?

Nice answers above you guys, I think I can help with this. AFAIK 20 units = 2 mL, right?

Personally I use the 0,22u 30 mm Whatman filters. These guys "eat" around 1 mL, meaning that when I have my solution in a 1 mL barrel and push it through the filter, only a few drops emerge on the other side.

I then refill the barrel with 1 mL of clean water and push this through the filter as well. This brings out all the good stuff from the filter and when the last drops squeezes through, they are perfectly clean and transparent. This leaves me with exactly 1 mL of goodie-holding solution which I then reload into a clean new barrel, mount a fresh needle and shoot away.

So in your situation I would reload the barrel with 10 units of clean water and push this through untill you can see that the appearing drops hold no more gear. You should then be getting full value for your money.

Good luck and stay safe mate!

 

[stray cat]

let me start by saying that i'm not really a needle guy, so my advice is not going to be the best for that. other users seem to have covered some helpful tips.

i was just going to say that if you have never successfully mainlined, you ought to try to get someone who knows what they are doing to help or at least oversee what you're doing. from what i gather, those misses can be dangerous, and I don't think you really want to turn yourself into a bruised up pincushion trying to hit it right when you don't really know what you're doing. if i misread or something, i apologize, and either way I'm not trying to offend you or anything. I just think it is not advisable to try to do something like that, which can have really negative and long-lasting consequences if you screw up, for the first time by yourself.

 

[Captain.Heroin]

Nice answers above you guys, I think I can help with this. AFAIK 20 units = 2 mL, right?

No, 20 units is 0.2 mL.

 

[SkagKush]

^ add on....

1ml is 100 units

 

[cire113]

honestly man its hard... I can only hit certain veins ... for some reason....

I either go too shallow or too deep....


NEVER inject unless you register

 

[stuckinaloop]

dude pushing off becuase your frustrated is just plain a mistake. big waste of dope and risk infection etc.. compared to hitting a vein or even muscling.

just fuckin backload into a new rig your wasting your dope just because a needl egets blunt...

 

[nycfc]

VICTORY!!
quick question: why when i draw thru the q tip i cut the tip off the 20 units i put in comes back as 15 every time? am i not being effective in drawing it up?

i hit the vein in my hand twice, i did the left hand at 5pm. Then at 1 am i went to hit it again but it was swollen and i couldnt see the veins so i hit my right hand. i was a little shaky bc im righthanded. i didnt tie off, i did it with really good light.

it was so easy i couldnt believe it. i have been sniffing dope and oxys for 2 years and i never shot bc i did mostly oxys, which to me is the same as sniffing dope. this is that first high that you chase but never find again. i did a half a bag of nyc delivery service $200 a bundle shit, which i prefer to the $70 a bun street shit.

nice. very nice. however, im not nodding out. the needle though was moving a lot more when i used my nondominant hand so im gonna hit my left hand somewhere diff tomorrow night after court (im a lawyer).

Im gonna try a full bag.

 

[nycfc]

dude pushing off becuase your frustrated is just plain a mistake. big waste of dope and risk infection etc.. compared to hitting a vein or even muscling.

just fuckin backload into a new rig your wasting your dope just because a needl egets blunt...

i can figure out what backloading is based on what u said, but i gotta figure out how to do it. honestly, i didnt know that was possible.

 

[caseface99]

^^ You pull out the plunger, shoot it into the back of the syringe, and put the plunger back in. You shouldn't bother doing this if your intending on IVing with that syringe you just back loaded before putting it into another container and drawing up again though, because when you put the plunger back in you will start pushing out dope the second you start pushing the plunger, not once it catches up with the dope, because of air pressure. You could put the plunger in like 1 unit then tilt the rig upside down and push out the air instead if the dope falls down to the other side but it might not, it might just hover there even though there is nothing but air under it - again from air pressure. So just squirt it into a sterile 'cooker' (not to imply the use of heat) and redraw the solution like normal.

 

[Georgie25]

you can backload without squirting the shit back out..you just need to squirt the liquid half way into the new needle then slowly put the plunger back in, once its a little bit in just shake the liquid back down and push the plunger back up to normal and you're set to go.

 

[yaks_got_milk]

Dude, fuckin go for your foot or hands! I didnt read the other posts, cuz im lazy, but your hands and feet are easy to hit, they just sting like a bitch, especially between the toes. It works just as well though. be careful, because consistant dope use causes a surprising wight loss, so don't get excited and become addicted. i'm not calling you fat, but some of my friends in the same situation kept using for the same reason and 3 of them are dead after just 2 years.

 

[John_Burrows]

The tip about "dragging" the needle that I gave was NOT to push the needle in and slowly drag back - you push the needle in a TINY amount, pull the plunger back and then slowly push the needle IN - when you finally reach the vein, blood will flow into the syringe. If you do this in reverse then yes, it means you will have gone through the vein, which is NOT what I suggested.

By following this trick you won't have to guess how deep (or shallow) the vein is - the vacuum created when you pull back the plunger will stay in place until it finds something to suck in, which will happen when the needle finally punctures a vein.

Just make sure to push the needle in a very slight amount to start - just a little bit more than what it takes to break the skin.

And for god's sake, no matter how desperate you are, don't say "fuck it" and inject anyway; the shot will mostly be wasted and its potentially dangerous.

Keep at it, read more and more and you WILL get the hang of it. 9 month ago I was an IV virgin and scared to death. My veins are impossible to see (even nurses sometimes have to poke me 3 or 4 times before they hit pay dirt) and the first few tries were so disastrous I was ready to throw in the (bloody) towel.

But I stayed with it and had patience and voilà la, I'm now an expert at slowly destroying my life

You can do it too!

 

[stuckinaloop]

VICTORY!!
quick question: why when i draw thru the q tip i cut the tip off the 20 units i put in comes back as 15 every time? am i not being effective in drawing it up?

i hit the vein in my hand twice, i did the left hand at 5pm. Then at 1 am i went to hit it again but it was swollen and i couldnt see the veins so i hit my right hand. i was a little shaky bc im righthanded. i didnt tie off, i did it with really good light.

it was so easy i couldnt believe it. i have been sniffing dope and oxys for 2 years and i never shot bc i did mostly oxys, which to me is the same as sniffing dope. this is that first high that you chase but never find again. i did a half a bag of nyc delivery service $200 a bundle shit, which i prefer to the $70 a bun street shit.

nice. very nice. however, im not nodding out. the needle though was moving a lot more when i used my nondominant hand so im gonna hit my left hand somewhere diff tomorrow night after court (im a lawyer).

Im gonna try a full bag.

HOLY FUCK i know no price discussion..ive copped in staten island & brooklyn (numerous times for months and months now) n gotten fuckin fire over and over again and holy fuck man that delivery service price you mentioned is outrageous.

What stamp was it man? I mean it could be worth it if the shits like 150-200mg lol. I been LOVIN WB (warner brothers wit the bunny logo) and chosen one..straight in love-its sick.

But yeah man what burrows said is def the way to do it. As soon as you peirce the skin pull the plunger back just a bit to create a suction so you will get an instant flash of blood as soon as you peirce the skin.

The way you hold the syringe also can help greatly. Most beginners (including myself when I started) just hold the shit awkward which ultimately creates a lot of problems.

This pic shows someone pushing the plunger down..but its basically how I feel is the best way to hold the syringe steady..register easy and push off easy without the needle moving and possible pushing through the vein. Its very easy to brace the needle this way.

Hold the syringe between your thumb and your pinky and index finger. When you want to pull back on the plunger to create the suction, use your pointer and ring finger and straddle the plunger under the circular top, pull up. then you can use your pointer or ring finger to push off gently (loosen the tourniquet first). Do not BLAST the shot off...just go nice and slow and make sure you steady the syringe so it does not move out or in. While you are learning it can't hurt to register halfway thoguh your shot..though doing this like 10x during a shot can do a little extra ware and tare to your veins.

It is possible to "register" without creating the vacuum and pulling back on the syringe..When you hit that vein, a little bit of blood will push into the syringe..just a small little flash. But until you are very experienced I recommended registering to get a clear flash of blood to make sure you are where you are supposed to be. You don't want just a little dribble of blood..the blood should fill the syringe as far as you pull back on the plunger

 

[InsaneJane]

Starting with a dull needle as an unexperienced shooter, you might as well resign yourself to having it go wrong Im about 30 lbs underweight on perma-stimulants ,so my veins are nearly external and I still struggled.

You inevitably lose some in the filtration, but 35-40%?? I dunno, sounds like you might have lost some somehow. You also probably lost some missing 3 times, and not getting the full effect. I REALLY dont think you should double your dose dude! Even if you DID get the full half bag....doubling over night =/

 

[stuckinaloop]

I am about 30 pounds overweight so my veins are impossible to find. I have shot 3 times in the crook of my arm in the past 24 hours, AND MISSED ALL 3 TIMES! every time, I gave up and just shot it bc the needle was getting so blunt it was either shoot it or lose it (or at least thats how i looked at it at the time).

I have never successfully mainlined, but the 3 times I shot and missed I got high. It just took about 10-15 min. Now both crooks of my arm are sore as hell, tracked to shit and I have 2 bags left. The only veins I see are the ones in my hand. I keep reading forums and people r saying that hitting ur hand veins are hard.

Do you get as high eventually, without the rush, when you miss? Its not like Im setting out to miss, but I gotta figure something out.

Also, my boy told me to draw up 20 units for one bag, i mix it up, but when i put it through the filter it comes back as like 12-13 units. that normal?

If you are drawing up 20 units for a bag (which 10 unites shoud be more than enough) you shoudl come out with over 20 unitess..the water plus the volume of the dope.

It sounds like maybe you are using too big a peice of cotton..you should pretty mch suck the cotton "dry" with your syringe. Not till it drys out but till you see most of the darker wet color of the cotton dissapear.

You will not get EVEN REMOTELY close to high if you "miss" accidentally or purposely. At the very least if you are going to just push off out of frustration atleast use a longer needle and push off in a muscle.


Peple say the ones in the hand are hard to hit,,they roll..but if you cant see any of your other veins what do you tink will be hardest. You are going on a ghost hunt..take what you can get.

Look at vein diagrams on google. they are you friend.

 

[benzico]

Starting with a dull needle as an unexperienced shooter, you might as well resign yourself to having it go wrong Im about 30 lbs underweight on perma-stimulants ,so my veins are nearly external and I still struggled.

You inevitably lose some in the filtration, but 35-40%?? I dunno, sounds like you might have lost some somehow. You also probably lost some missing 3 times, and not getting the full effect. I REALLY dont think you should double your dose dude! Even if you DID get the full half bag....doubling over night =/

Defo listen to what being said in post above. mirrors my exact thoughts.