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EpicurusFire

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I rolled for the first time in June at Bonnaroo, as many of you have probably seen my story about the experience in other threads. For those who haven't, let me just say that no night will ever touch that night...ever. Everything just fell into place perfectly, and I couldn't imagine a better setting and situation for a roll....I am just really thankful to have had this experience.

That said, I had an afterglow like crazy for weeks afterwards. I literally watched the YouTube vid of the Jay-Z Bonnaroo performance of him singing "Young Forever" at least 50 times every day for a couple weeks after the festival. Every time I heard the song play, it instantly brought me back to that moment and just hearing the music made me overwhelmed with happiness and i'd get tingling sensations over my entire body.

As you can imagine, this wore off after hearing the song over and over again a ridiculous amount of times. Now I hear the song and it's not the same at all. In fact, although I still have insanely good memories from that night, I can't remember that feeling anymore. I got a flash of it tonight when hearing another song and wanted to hold onto it, but it faded quickly and again is lost. The "magic" feeling I had I can't remember anymore.

Hopefully when I roll on new years eve it will bring back the feeling I had that night...because I never want to forget how I felt that night. So incredible. MDMA is beyond words.
 
This is a plus man. Trust me, once you toll again its going to feel even better since your not going to know what to expect. I wish I could forget how it feels.
 
ThizzMon$teR said:
This is a plus man. Trust me, once you toll again its going to feel even better since your not going to know what to expect. I wish I could forget how it feels.
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I had a feeling this was going to be said. I can see that being a plus...but a huge negative for me is that the greatest night of my life is only half a memory now.
 
I've been in your boat! My fave part of MDMA is the clarity and beauty the memory of rolling provides me. Rest assured you will get MDMA again.
 
This makes me kind of happy i haven't rolled, i doubt i'd be able to resist the craving.
 
Im glad i stopped rolling, i still remember the feeling. But mainly the bad parts of the after wards 2 years of heavy abuse was enough for me..
 
EpicurusFire said:
I had a feeling this was going to be said. I can see that being a plus...but a huge negative for me is that the greatest night of my life is only half a memory now.
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Are you serious man? I always find I remember every other night when I roll again
 
advice on newbies losing the magic

So im new to rolling, itl be my 4th time on new years and im planning on doing 2 ills about an hour apart. ive been hearing that you "lose the magic" after afew rolls:?, can anybody help me out and go into deeper detail? (i.e how many rolls until i feel that way, if its still fun, etc) all help is appreciated thanks peeps!;)
 
It's if you abuse MDMA. Losing the Magic is essentially where the MDMA still effects you, but you no longer get the desired effects from it, such as the body buzz, togetherness of everything and sincere happiness. If you take proper breaks, you can roll till your 80 and still never lose the magic.
 
How long do you wait between rolls? If you're waiting a month or so, you will be fine. It is when you abuse it (do too much at a time or do it too often, like days or even a week apart) that it goes wrong. If it's your fourth time and you're had breaks in between, you will probably not lose the magic. It does change a bit from your first roll but it should still be very good!
 
just take the little pill and have fun, you have no magic so youve none to lose. do pills alot in a short space of time then youll be running low on seratonin

just space them out always 6-7 weeks apart or something and youll be fine!
 
I think it's a damn shame that people scare newbies into thinking this sort of thing. Just get that out of your head, space your rolls out, and you'll be able to enjoy them for a long time. 10 years here, and it's more fun now than it's ever been.
 
I'd advise 2-3 months between rolls. A month may be fine for a few times, but it will catch up with you eventually at that pace.
 
I think the complete 'losing the magic' is blown out of proportion on the site and probably by a lot of people in general.

Your not going to lose the magic after popping a few pills in a night or rolling two or three times per month and then taking a break.

The damage occurs (mainly) when people are taking pills/mdma on a regular basis and usually for an extended time period.

Some people are actually so worried about losing the magic that I think they convince themselves its already happened.

Enjoy your pills, take regular breaks and look after yourself between rolls and you reduce the negatives.
 
Message boards tend to attract people having problems with an issue- I meet tons of people who roll at clubs, and they've never heard of bluelight or had magic loss problems (typically because they had a good friend who told them not to over do it!).

My biggest word of advice, is that you can't talk yourself out of timing it right. No supplement, amount of sleep will ever do for you what actual space in between rolling will do. I now wait 2 months minimum, and take longer breaks when I want to. It's easy to fall in love with MDMA and rationalize decisions like "Oh, well, I'm gonna roll on NYE, then my friend birthday is the 12th so I have to do it then too, so I'll just take a 6 week break after that"- and certainly, you may get away with that, but it's just better not to. MDMA should never be your go to drug for socializing.

Glad you found bluelight early in your MDMA journey :) Don't worry too much about it, just read up. Magic loss is preventable, and to some extent I think when and if you ever lose "magic" is simply a matter of personal body chemistry.
 
What exactly does it feel like to lose the magic?

Since december 6 ive rolled alot. Rolled on 3 tabs that night and felt like i was rolling all night for a good 12 hours. I have never taken 3 tabs before and it was so intense and euphoric. Then i waited 2 weeks and rolled on 3 more tabs this time very less enjoyable, peak felt like it last 10 min each time and then it died so i ate more and the same thing happened. Pretty much NO euphoria. I think i killed my roll cause there was alot of arguing going along in the car when i was peaking cause my eyes were huge and i neveer got back into the mood. Then 5 days after that i ate 2 more and rolled really fucking hard for 5 hrs but i didnt realize how hard i was rolling. I never noticed when i peaked and i was sweating like a mother fucker and my eyes were huge and i knew i was rolling but i had like 0 euphoria and usually when i breathe everything is so good and everything feels the best but i really wasnt digging it that time. All my friends were getting the euphoria and i was just pretty sped up still having a good time trying not to think about the euphoria not affecting me but i was kinda bummed seeing as thats the best part... Oh and one more thing i used to have the worst comedowns when i started rolling during the summer. Felt like my brain was beaten by a hammer and very bad anxiety/depression. Smoking weed was less enjoyable and i had very bad depersonalization problems and felt like a new person idk it was wierd. I stopped rolling for 4 months and just now started back up but i have been doing it way to much because the comedowns arent even bad so i was like fuck it why not eat more it if its not affecting me in a negative way.. But now im starting to think i lost the magic or something :\ becoming into an e-tard maybe?
 
It seems like back in the day i rolled harder off 1 when i first started and i was so much more mind blown and it was so much more of a crazy exp now im so accustomed to it or something, still enjoyable. But not as overwhelming as it used to be... I miss those days
 
I haven't lost it myself, but I have gone a little overboard and had some lame rolls. Just speedy, a bit euphoric, but that's it.

I think it stems from not only a general depletion of your brains resources, but also a lack of oxytocin. Oxytocin (released by MDMA, and after sex) is what makes you feel all cuddly-snuggly-empathy-lovey-dovey. I can't imagine that the body has much of a surplus, and abusing MDMA can quickly result in empathy-less rolls.

I mean, empathy is like the greatest part for me. Just being able to talk, conversation rolls out like smooth butter. Your deepest areas open up and you can share anything with the friends your rolling with.


Just try and keep it once every 3 months or less. The longer you wait, the better the roll. You also might wanna purchase a bottle of 5-htp.
 
I've been rolling for 5 years and still haven't lost it, but I've had friends who have lost it... Honestly, it's kind of like... "Wow, this is fun, but I could be a lot higher" except you can't really get higher. But yeah, when you lose the magic, the empathy and whatnot isn't exactly... gone? But it's definitely not as good as it used to be... However a lot of people when they lose the magic, it's completely gone. I thought I lost the magic once, but then I found out when you take a break, eat healthy, take your vitamins, and exercise, the next time you do it, it's even better than the last!

Just a bit of advice, don't take pills that often! Keep it at one month MINIMUM, or you WILL lose the magic, quickly. I've been doing Ecstasy since I was 14, when I started I used it I felt a bit addicted so I did it like once a week and I found that my tolerance went WAY up, but then I figured that if I just did it once a month, or maybe once every two months, it would help, and it did haha.

Stay safe,
PLUR,
- Warped
 
ugh im mad :[[
I had my birthday at the beginning of the month and that night was the best and ive just been chasing that high trying to roll as hard as a did that night and its never been successful i mean im still having a good time but like you said its like wtf i could be rolling way harder... Ive prolly rolled like 9 times since the beginning of december but 4 diff nights. Spaced em out poorly the first 2 back to back and the next 2 waiting 2 weeks and did the next 2 rolls less than a week apart. Lol i fail :\ but extacy is my favorite drug and ive done like every drug and ive never had a "user dream" on any other drug but x. Its hard for me to walk away from... and like i said i dont get the cracked out feeling as much as i used to or it is much more pleasant than it used to be or i just got used to the feeling of coming down. The only thing that really happens is my head gets a little spaced out and i get a slight form of depression cause im not up anymore :[
 
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