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Young teenagers at raves?

pr0d1gy said:
I feel like a total pedo @ raves and im only 20. The mix of girls under 17 being rolling and me rolling has put me in risky situations recently.

Part of me really misses that scene but even on MDMA I don't feel like I really "fit in" at most raves.
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Something is really wrong with you then. I'm 20 as well....I don't see how interacting with 17 year old girls has anything to do with being a pedo. I guess its a cultural thing, I never understood why everyone in the states holds so dearly to that number 18. Most girls fully develop around age 16, I have seen very mature girls that age. It's not like they turn 18 and all of a sudden they are ready for everything....
 
My belief is that kids between the ages of 12-18 should not be taking a drug that is so powerful. Just like the cheesy line from spider man 'with great power, comes great responsibility'. It's true when it comes to powerful drugs. This is a substance that can take over anyone's life no matter what the age of the person. Shit it took over mine when I was 19-20. The only problem is that most kids between the ages of 12-18 do not have the ability to control ones self, if it's when high or with substance abuse. We all know the detrimental effects of ecstasy abuse. With young kids these effects are multiplied because the brain and the body are still growing. When it comes to substance abuse it's a lot harder for a young teen to stop abusing. It's everything from peer pressure to loss of interest of things that are important like school, friends, and family which lead to serious abuse. With young girls it seems to affect the most. It's bad when young girls feel the need to show off their sexuality at such a young age. That right there exudes immaturity and a loss of control. It took me a long time to realize that I had a substance problem and that anything was 'wrong' with what I was doing. Getting high was losing it's fun, it's 'magic'. It was just so I could do something on the weekends and party, which turned into needing it, to have any fun at all. Of course kids will be going to raves and taking ecstasy because raves are all ages and it gives kids something to 'do' on the weekends, and it doesn't matter what age you are, we all like to party. Unless all raves began to really crack down on the age limit, kids will be introduced to the rave scene and will be taking ecstasy at too young of an age. Immaturity + hard drugs = poor decisions. EDC 2010?


PS> No matter how old you are there will always be an age bias. For example driving. You can't get your drivers license until you are 16. Drivers insurance is more expensive when you're younger because of statistical data showing that younger drivers are more at risk because of maturity levels. Drinking. You can't legally drink until you're 21. Can't rent cars until your 25. After 45 peoples relative attractiveness goes down no matter how attractive they still are. There are plenty of jobs you can't have until you reach a certain age, or it becomes harder to get a job after you reach a certain age. There are plenty examples all across the board of prejudice because of age and belief of overall maturity levels.
 
DJ 303 said:
too right man.
Listen to yourselves cynics.
Let people be.
if you don't like them, thats your burden of negativity.
lighten up bluelighters, cause the ones, claiming "maturity" and being "too old for it" and all these other repeated and redressed cliches that have existed in parties since the dawn of the rave era are just wallowing in their own over-inflated sense of jingoistic smug arrogance.
People at 20 years old posting about all the "young uns" bah.
Theres probably a hundred other negative judgmental idiots 10 years older than you thinking what a tit you are.
in fact, guarantee, in ten years time, you'll look back and realise what a tit you were.
lighten up people.
try to focus on the good in others, not pick holes in party goers just to try and over-compensate for your own inferiorities.
in the words of bill and ted......
be excellent to each other.
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hey i see your point, but i don't think anyone was saying they DISLIKE teenagers. i think they're saying they don't agree with young teens being at raves.

what is good about having a 12/13 year old at a rave? jw

idk - i work with kids. i love kids. however, it makes me sad to see them at raves doing drugs that really aren't appropriate for their young minds. again, idc how mature you think you are, i don't think your brain is developed enough to handle hard drugs. that's a fact.

i don't think any of us are being "tits" for speaking our minds on this. maybe when (if) you have kids, you might look back and change your opinion on the matter (which i don't think would make you hypocritical at all btw).

:)<3
 
scubagirl200 said:
hey i see your point, but i don't think anyone was saying they DISLIKE teenagers. i think they're saying they don't agree with young teens being at raves.

what is good about having a 12/13 year old at a rave? jw

idk - i work with kids. i love kids. however, it makes me sad to see them at raves doing drugs that really aren't appropriate for their young minds. again, idc how mature you think you are, i don't think your brain is developed enough to handle hard drugs. that's a fact.

i don't think any of us are being "tits" for speaking our minds on this. maybe when (if) you have kids, you might look back and change your opinion on the matter (which i don't think would make you hypocritical at all btw).

:)<3
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I don't really like 12/13 year olds at raves either. A large chunk of this argument has been about 16/17 year olds at raves because people are afraid that they are going to be accused of sexual harassment or something. Personally I'm all for some age restriction (14+ maybe?) because I don't like seeing kids in junior high rolling face either but I also think 18+ is a bit ridiculous.
 
pr0d1gy said:
I feel like a total pedo @ raves and im only 20. The mix of girls under 17 being rolling and me rolling has put me in risky situations recently.

Part of me really misses that scene but even on MDMA I don't feel like I really "fit in" at most raves.
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16+ raves in australia,
legal age is 16
:)
 
I am fine with 16 year olds at raves. I probably wouldnt be able to relate so much to 13 year olds though.
 
scubagirl200 said:
hey i see your point, but i don't think anyone was saying they DISLIKE teenagers. i think they're saying they don't agree with young teens being at raves.
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No. What they are saying, at least the ones that I've called out on it, is 'I don't like having teenagers at events I want to attend therefore they should be excluded because I have more right to be there than they do.'

The solution is simple otherwise. I say again, if you don't want to go to events with teenagers at them, don't go to all ages events. See how simple that is?
 
When young kitties are around there's allways trouble. I feel any event involving drugs and alcohol should be NO DOUBT at least 18 and over. its safest. I don't like seeing half naked 16 year olds rolling bawls on the floor fucked up. It just looks wrong in so many different levels. For the youngsters on here you'll notice more once your older.
 
windowpaine said:
No. What they are saying, at least the ones that I've called out on it, is 'I don't like having teenagers at events I want to attend therefore they should be excluded because I have more right to be there than they do.'

The solution is simple otherwise. I say again, if you don't want to go to events with teenagers at them, don't go to all ages events. See how simple that is?
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at 23 I definitely have more right then any 16 year old should have. Honestly they should be at the movies eating ice cream and going out on cute dates and home by 1. In my town all the freaking kids have curfew at 12 (weekdays) . Because the ones in my town are fucking bad and if there out in the streets late at night there up to no good
 
I kind of wish more raves were 25+, at least for the men if not for the women. The women can be 19+. A lot of 18 year olds think they are so much more mature than the 16 and 17 year olds just because the state now recognizes them as adults, but they are just as immature. At 23 you are only marginally better.

It should be 25+
 
Im 20 and i feel as i fit right in at raves. I don't look like a 20 year old i suppose but yea i definitely do not feel like a pedo going around.. im just like them.
 
Wow. I can't believe the people chanting on others to destroy property in that youtube video. Those are the types of people who the bus and taxi driver should have just ran over IMHO.
 
I don't mind. Most people i hear are saying retarted stuff like oh you shouldn't be doing drugs under 18. True, you shouldn't but some people are idiotic enough to claim it is okay to do drugs over the age of 18 like you have magically passed a barrier of invincibility.. your brain is still not fully developed well past 18.
-Stay Safe!
 
Sentience said:
I kind of wish more raves were 25+, at least for the men if not for the women. The women can be 19+. A lot of 18 year olds think they are so much more mature than the 16 and 17 year olds just because the state now recognizes them as adults, but they are just as immature. At 23 you are only marginally better.

It should be 25+
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the whole act of taking drugs is relatively immature, it is ultimately is not good for you. and i think its pretty condescending of you to say that anyone under 25 is immature, also what makes females more mature that they are allowed in at 19 because you want to fuck them?

as far as the actual topic is concerned i don't mind most younger kids at raves (i'm only 18 ) but i've met plenty of cool 15 and 16 year olds. i don't really think they need to be rolling at that age but i don't judge, shit i'm always faced too =D haha. the only thing that creeps me out is i once saw a 12 year old at a rave with a hickey the size of a baseball on her neck, thats just not cool.
 
I guess the irony was wasted on you.

Go back and read where I said that I am fine with all ages.


Also, I dont accept that all drug use is inherently immature or destructive. Drugs can be used with a purpose. Some drugs may be more beneficial than harmful, like peyote in a ceremonial setting, or even acid at a festival. MDMA can also help certain people, as it was used in therapy and is being used again for PTSD....who is to say that a rave, under the right circumstances with the right people, isnt therapy? Enlightening, mind opening, spiritually healing?

Maybe people are just jaded because they used the wrong drugs, or used drugs with the wrong attitude and a lack of purpose.
 
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This is a big issue for Utah partygoers right now. The general consensus is 16+/18+ and some say no age limits. The more outspoken members of the scene are saying make age limits 18+, but these events are heavily attended by young people. How else are you going to get illz?
 
Education is key. The only reason I'm not fucked up because of all the drugs I've taken is owed to my friends. I roll with my friends, in a decent environment, where you dont have to worry about pissing people off. Everybody acts like a dick when theyre rolling, bout having friends who tolerate your bullshit, and you tolerate theres.
 
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