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Amanita Muscaria at a rave

Sorry, I probably should have described my past experiences in my first post. :P

Amanitas were my first recreational/spiritual/whatever drug after salvia. This was a few years ago when I was first starting to explore what was out there. I wanted to sample the legal stuff before I got into anything else.

Had amanitas, in 2-8g doses, probably ten times before the rave. With that amount, I never even got nauseated. 8g will make me a bit confused sometimes, but not terribly so. I've never eaten an ounce as described in that link above, and would never do that at a rave. I'm fairly responsible with my use- I never really ever go overboard.

The worst I've ever done is drank 2 beers with 2mg Xanax. (I know it's silly to drink on them.)

Also, I forgot where I read this, but combining an NMDA receptor antagonist with a benzo creates the (animal) anesthetic Telazol. There was an Erowid report with alprazolam and K titled "telazol analogue" or something of that nature. True, side effects include decreased respiration. But at low(er) doses (i.e. 2mg alprazolam and 50mg ketamine), it doesn't seem like this combo is terrible. I also read somewhere that it decreases neurotoxicity in that it inhibits olney's lesion formation. However, I don't really know enough about neuroscience yet to say for sure.
 
In all honesty I don't think most people give Amanitas a proper chance, I know a fair few people who've taken them and loved them, they're primarily a light happy dissociative - so if you like Ketamine, DXM, PCP, that sort of thing, you might enjoy them.

I can't remember which compound it is but I believe one of the active compounds in Amanita is also a deliriant, so be careful - I know someone who talked to someone who wasn't there for several hours while tripping on Amanitas and that's not ideal at a public event like a rave haha.
 
Feste said:
Of course you have to dry them, but they're still horrible.
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Drying is NOT ENOUGH!!!

OF COURSE they acted like a deleriant... the boiling converts the deleriant to a dissociative psychedelic.

Why is this concept so hard for people to "get"???

again, THE RECIPE: http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/Oth...-ReligiousDrugs/AmanitaMuscariaRecipePage.htm

You MUST also do the boiling step in order to convert all the bad stuff to good stuff.

Got it? Dry AND BOIL Amanitas or they do not work right, and just fuck you up with toxic ick.

Dry AND BOIL
 
I've never boiled. I get these lovely caps for super cheap. Wish I could give the source. :/ She was on ebay years ago, but now she only sells through email, and she doesn't advertise anywhere on the net.
 
Give it a try, latentdelusion... follow that recipe and its advice (well except for the "drinking your water" the way the traditional shamen do it... it really magnifies the effect, though its just the same active ingredient, so you can just drink more of the shroom boil instead of that).

But try it at home not at a rave... the phases they describe are accurate. After an initial euphoric period, you start to feel drowsy... then you have a series of episodes when you sort of "nod off" but during these little 'naps" you have the most amazing mythic-level ultra trippy "dreams". It will happen multiple times. You will vividly remember these ultra-dreams when you come out of them. You don't really feel it coming, only when you wake up, or "come back." Its incredibly wild. This is where the true revelations are given to you.

Ive had things happen that we so hard to describe... God-like beings the size of stars "feeding" off of the souls of recently deceased beings... all beings, human as well as animal... these souls looked like a river made from points of light flowing up off the Earth into space... the "god-beings" would consume them, and thereby absorb and re-live all the experiences of the deceased ones, and in this way preserve them and keep them alive within themselves for all eternity. Whoa.

Yea, a little more intense than just some woozy feelings at a rave, my friend.
 
Will do! I'll try it once I get back up to school. (Will be up there a bit early with next to nobody on campus. It's pretty quiet/boring up there).

I've had that experience or something similar, but in the 'light' version. I'd like to really experience that as described.
 
DwayneHoover said:
Ive had things happen that we so hard to describe... God-like beings the size of stars "feeding" off of the souls of recently deceased beings... all beings, human as well as animal... these souls looked like a river made from points of light flowing up off the Earth into space... the "god-beings" would consume them, and thereby absorb and re-live all the experiences of the deceased ones, and in this way preserve them and keep them alive within themselves for all eternity. Whoa.
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That sounds incredible..... 8o

I tried amanita muscaria mushrooms many years ago and didn't really get much from them.

But reading this thread has inspired me to give them another go at some point.

I'm thinking I must have underdosed or not prepared them properly.
 
from my experience, if the music is bad, they'll help you sleep through the party
 
The alprazolam is mixed with the ketamine to make it less neurotoxic. And i did low doses of each of those as well. Well, I've only ever taken K once- that time.
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Benzos fuck up the effects of K and make it boring. If you're doing benzos with K, save yourself the trouble and just drink moar. If you want neurotoxicity (which may or may not be a concern with NMDA dissociatives) relief, take one or two benadryl -- but beware as anticholinergics potentiate dissociatives a shitton.

And I've been able to get any 'real' drug that I want. Real MDMA only came around after I wasn't interested in it anymore (mostly because I was low on cash). Haha.
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MDMA is a wonderful, awesome drug.

Seriously.
 
I was picking mushies by my school yesterday. Some guy noticed I was foraging, came up to me excited to show me his find, two nice looking amanitas.

I think they are some of the prettiest mushrooms, though I hear mixed reports about wether they are enjoyable or not.
 
DwayneHoover said:
Give it a try, latentdelusion... follow that recipe and its advice (well except for the "drinking your water" the way the traditional shamen do it... it really magnifies the effect, though its just the same active ingredient, so you can just drink more of the shroom boil instead of that).
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Just out of curiousity, have you ever tried "drinking your water", and if so, is it worth it? Just wondering because I'm all for getting the most out of entheogens.
 
peacelovedope said:
Just out of curiousity, have you ever tried "drinking your water", and if so, is it worth it? Just wondering because I'm all for getting the most out of entheogens.
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Yes. And its really not that bad. And yes, it really does strongly increase the intensity of the effect. Some traditionalists claim that the body converts MORE of the Ibotenic Acid into Muscimol that is not converted by drying & simmering, though I find that hard to believe... so you could just do more of the shroom boil at the same point in the process... though "drinking your own water" is certainly a way of preserving the possibly limited supply and expensive premium mushrooms you have acquired. And there is some psychological thing about being "authentic", linking yourself to the "ancients", and "mustering the courage" that may strengthen the profundity of the trips by doing that, I dunno.
 
i suppose you could evaporate your urine & save the solids, encapsulate & swallow if you want to avoid the taste etc. However you'd have to be somewhere with few people or with people who don't mind the smell of boiling piss... lol Definitely not to be done in apartments ;)
 
I can't really imagine taking a big dose at a rave, but the op said it was a small dose and honestly that probably wouldn't be half bad. I was kind of appalled at the guy who said "get real drugs" because amanitas are pretty intense.

I remember when I took them. At first I was just feeling awesome/drunky and having a blast in a big social party situation. Sadly, I decided to keep eating more until the party and abore were no more. I've been "out there" quite a number of times, but these things (like many other real drugs) will show 'you' experiences you didn't know were possible. The line between enjoyability and full on entheogenic experience is a thin one, though.
 
^ It's a real useless idea to do these at any kind of event where you want to remain conscious. The way they work, after an initial period of a sort of "intoxication," is to make you less and less conscious until they trigger these cyclic episodes in which you sort of "pass out", during which you have these ultra-intense hallucinatory epic mythic dream-states. Or maybe your mind disconnects from the brain and visits higher level dimensions I dunno. Then you wake up, remember what you were just "dreaming", ... go "O... M.... F.... G!!!!" in TOTAL disbelief that what you just experienced was even possible to experience with the human mind.

THEN you get drowsy and fall back "under" again for another round, till the Muscimol is all eliminated from your bloodstream after a few hours.

Does that sound like something to be doing at a rave?
 
DwayneHoover said:
Yes. And its really not that bad. And yes, it really does strongly increase the intensity of the effect. Some traditionalists claim that the body converts MORE of the Ibotenic Acid into Muscimol that is not converted by drying & simmering, though I find that hard to believe... so you could just do more of the shroom boil at the same point in the process... though "drinking your own water" is certainly a way of preserving the possibly limited supply and expensive premium mushrooms you have acquired. And there is some psychological thing about being "authentic", linking yourself to the "ancients", and "mustering the courage" that may strengthen the profundity of the trips by doing that, I dunno.
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Well, you've convinced me: if I get a hold of some amanitas I will definitely try this. Although I'll probably leave that part out when telling people about it...(the average person isn't hip to the idea of piss drinking I would imagine haha)
 
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