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hold all the miami/laker/bron/kobe/rose/ bellyaching for a second. anyone else hear the news that that carmelo Anthony will not agree to sign anywhere long-term unless he is dealt to New York.

the knicks are surpassing mosts expectations right now and if anthony joins them could the east have yet another contender? (depending on who the knicks have to give up to get him that is). I think the transition meld of amare melo hypothetically would be an easy one too because amare doesnt require the ball constantly.
 
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yeah! I heard this news. as a basketball fan, I would love love love to see the two united. I've been a big Amare fan forever, and sometimes I admit Melo grinds my gears but he does have talent. this would be an awesome acquisition for the East
 
axl blaze said:
yeah! I heard this news. as a basketball fan, I would love love love to see the two united. I've been a big Amare fan forever, and sometimes I admit Melo grinds my gears but he does have talent. this would be an awesome acquisition for the East
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same here, melo/amare combo sounds so smooth, plus felton is a pretty good point guard

if this were to happen I think the east would might clearly become the division.

I know im going to get flammed for this but I think people saying that the east is the new west right now are prisoners of the summer hype. I would say the west dominance is for the most part gone but at the very least the sides are even the west still might actually be a bit tougher. the spurs are an underated version of the celtics, the lakers are the lakers, the thunder are legit with westbrook playing out of his mind, not to mention the mavs are pretty solid along with utah and NOH and sleeper teams like portland/denver hangin on the bottom of the pack.

but if this were too happen the east would definetily be the division in the nba
 
kind of funny in light of all the "zomg the Heat are flops" news of a few weeks ago but basketballreference has them ranked 1st right now:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=8368

hollinger has 'em second:

http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/powerrankings

so don't wanna hear that "they're only smashing on bad teams." interesting enough according to hollinger's rankings the lakers have played the easiest schedule in the L.

it's a testament to how underrated andrew bynum is (and highlights why kobe, and all wing players, period, are overrated: they can't affect the team D on such a broad level).

melo to the knicks is so very interesting now in light of the knicks' win streak!

the thing is melo (and amare) gets buried by people like david berri (the wages of wins) because he essentially just scores. what's interesting in melo's case is that he's having a career year rebounding the ball, which substantially increases his value. but his rebounds have dropped in recent weeks; let's hope it doesn't go the way of his early-season 3-point percentage.

landry fields, one of the players the knicks would presumably have to give up, has also been fantastic this season.

in other words there's a chance that trading for melo would improve the knicks only marginally while decimating their chances to improve in the future.

they would be near the cap (depends what happens w/ labor negotiations, although theoretically melo would take a higher-paying extension now rather than wait for the new CBA) with just amare and melo making ~$38 million a year.

and it gets a bit LOL when you throw in the chris paul rumors.

also it seems the deal for melo hedges on acquiring a first-round pick, and while rumors say they can just trade anthony randolph for one, he is terrible so there is no guarantee on that.
 
East > West for sure right now

it wouldn't be as close as this, if the Spurs didn't just totally surprise me with how good they are doing

the West has the Lakers, so it's not like the West will ever be anything close to a laughing matter
 
^^^ its funny how those basketball reference and similar type sites/people let stats blind them from reality makes perfect sence that the heat outrank a team that has a better record and beat them twice?

and for the record i think its more east = west, but you may be right. we will see come playoff time ;) as we know from last year when everyone was counting the c's out, the regular season can really trick a person

Kam lets not forget its not unlike the lakers to do just enough to get by during the regular season and then dominate in the playoffs. also besides bynum being out all year kobe battled just coming off knee surgery during the begining of the year and gasol has been playing like shit off and on because of a sprained hamstring/switching positions.
 
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it could be East = West. too early to tell. there are great team in both divisions, it's a good time to be a fan in this gilded age of pro b-ball. I just wish my Cavs could be a contender and also don't get shipped out of town in a couple years. hate CLE all you want, we do love our sports. at this point, 90 percent of cities in US would have already gotten blacked out games (including LA, for sure)

I'm just happy that the last couple years have been East = West, unlike most of the 2000s where it was West > East
 
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makes perfect sence that the heat outrank a team that has a better record and beat them twice?
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so your argument is that w-l records and head-to-head matchups are more accurate predictors of future quality than things like win margin and strength of schedule?

or is it that if something is counter-intuitive to you it's not accurate?
 
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Are you actually mad at me for stating something that could have actually happened?

Are you asserting that a team full of All-Stars cannot win in the NBA?

The Miami experiment is finally beginning to work out, and the Lakers are the team in trouble now. It is an lol moment.
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Bwahahahahahahha

okay, not even going to bother with this post. See ya in June.

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East > West for sure right now

it wouldn't be as close as this, if the Spurs didn't just totally surprise me with how good they are doing

the West has the Lakers, so it's not like the West will ever be anything close to a laughing matter
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I definitely disagree. The East is a joke besides the top 4 or 5 teams.

A team like Memphis, who is better than your typical 6th or 7th seed in the East, don't even make the playoffs in the West. That's how tough/competitive the Western Conference is.

But the East is getting a little better though, cause teams like Sixers aren't making the playoffs anymore.

It's still West >>>>>> East.
 
I have to let some anger out!

3,4-dihydroxyphen and crowe... again this doesn't pertain to you guys as you don't fall into this category of Heat fans, but I'm getting tired of the suddenly boisterous Heat fans (who I never knew were Heat fans until July 8th) having a sense of self entitlement. The arrogance is overwhelmingly fucking annoying. For fuck's sake. Find something better to do than constantly shoving your "three amigos" induced raging boners in my face. Christ.

:)
 
KamMoye said:
so your argument is that w-l records and head-to-head matchups are more accurate predictors of future quality than things like win margin and strength of schedule?

or is it that if something is counter-intuitive to you it's not accurate?
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no theres something to be had in stats for sure and I gobble them up like most other people, they are extremely useful, but I dont think they should be read into like scripture.

the celtics won the eastern conferance last year, they have that same team again, and they have beaten the heat twice. they are the team to beat in the east, and not a single stat will convince me otherwise.

a person could make the argument that the spurs are now the team to beat in the west. but as I said stats arnt scripture. Certain things about the game stats do not take into account and can not measure. like the the fact that seeing the same team for 7 games in a row in a playoff atmosphere where each game can take on a different style, where you get a feel for your oppenents moves plays ect - is a completely different ball game than the regular season and certain teams preform better in those conditions a la the lakers and back to back rings.
 
don't say things like this:

^^^ its funny how those basketball reference and similar type sites/people let stats blind them from reality makes perfect sence that the heat outrank a team that has a better record and beat them twice?
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(unsubstantiated claims)

when ur not actually gonna back 'em up when called out
 
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ryanlaughlin said:
I have to let some anger out!

3,4-dihydroxyphen and crowe... again this doesn't pertain to you guys as you don't fall into this category of Heat fans, but I'm getting tired of the suddenly boisterous Heat fans (who I never knew were Heat fans until July 8th) having a sense of self entitlement. The arrogance is overwhelmingly fucking annoying. For fuck's sake. Find something better to do than constantly shoving your "three amigos" induced raging boners in my face. Christ.

:)
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lol you are right on the money about my fellow brethren. Miami is a city that feels entitled to sports excellence. We started with the undefeated Dolphins in the 70's, then we had the Canes tearing up college football for 3 decades, the Marlins winning the World Series even though nobody gives a fuck about them (and for good reason), the Heat's 2006 national championship with Shaq and Wade, and now the greatest free agent haul in NBA history.

I mean, I know some of us can get dickish about it at times (I'm guilty myself), but can you really blame us? Miami has been a relatively blessed city when it comes to our sports teams. The only one that really has a record of sucking is the Florida Panthers, but they are a hockey team in fucking south Florida. Something is just not right about that.
 
KamMoye said:
don't say things like this:



(unsubstantiated claims)

when ur not actually gonna back 'em up when called out
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do you have a reading disorder? how did i not back up what I said. I said that stats have value but dont measure everything so they shouldnt be read into like the be all end all. if they were there would be no point in watching the games.

I was guilty of bashing the heat early in the season when they were playing horribly because well with all the "not 6 not 7" talk it was a a big serving of humble pie, but the heat have come together and have a much better chemistry than they did earlier in the year and actually now they are a good team which as a fan of basketball I like because I want to see good teams play against good teams, but do you yourself honestly believe they are better than the celtics?
 
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you said

"those basketball reference ... sites ... let stats blind them from reality"

You never specified what "reality" was.

Don't worry though, I no longer have any interest in your opinion, as, in this specific situation anyway, you have proven yourself incapable of cogent, rational thought.
 
lmfao maybe you should have quoted the entire sentence instead of only the first half and you wouldnt be so lost man
you also conveniently dodged my last question

now for sake of turning this post into a meaningful contributition to the thread anyone else excited for the games tonight. the rising NYK against the hurt boston, CLEV gets a second chance against a better miami team and a dallas team that doesnt want to lose its second in a row against a portland team trying to prove something all in the same night :)
 
oh no! because i "dodged" your question you must have stumbled upon some truth!

wait, what does that mean for my questions?

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so your argument is that w-l records and head-to-head matchups are more accurate predictors of future quality than things like win margin and strength of schedule?

or is it that if something is counter-intuitive to you it's not accurate?
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they're yes or no questions. not trick questions, not meant to be sarcastic.

it's like shooting fish in a barrel...
 
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now for sake of turning this post into a meaningful contributition to the thread anyone else excited for the games tonight. the rising NYK against the hurt boston, CLEV gets a second chance against a better miami team and a dallas team that doesnt want to lose its second in a row against a portland team trying to prove something all in the same night :)
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Oh I'm excited! Don't take that as false hope, I know the odds are against Cleveland, but until tip off, we're not out of it! :D
 
What a crazy ending to the Knicks-C's game! Pierce is fucking clutch as always, still hate him though.

Nate Barrel Roll =D

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Melo:

“You’re up and down, fast-paced and you get extra possessions in the game,” Anthony said, when speaking of Mike D’Antoni‘s system. “On the flip side, I’ve been on teams where we weren’t known for our defense, and that’s not something I want to ever deal with again."




This quote made me laugh. :D


‘Derrick Rose may have your number,’ President Obama lightheartedly jabbed at Kobe Bryant as the [Lakers] posed for a photograph [...] ‘If he calls that number, I’ll be sure to pick up after the fifth ring,’ Bryant quipped back.”
 
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