Friend with Acetominophen overdose

AC&C's in canada atleast contain aspirin not acetaminophen. If thats what she took she should be puking blood by now it would be my guess anyway as aspirin is very hard on the stomach.

On the otherhand if it's acetaminophen there is a anti-dote to it but it works the best if you take it within 12 hours of ingestion. So there is a time limit on just how well the stuff will work.

If she ingested that amount of aspirin it will probably completely fuck her stomach but she will most likely live as it takes a hell of alot of aspirin to kill a person. This is not saying it does not take much to perma fuck someones insides though. If she took that much acetaminophen and does not get to the hospital in time it will destroy her liver.
 
she saying shes ok, and refusing to go to the doctor, she doesn't believe the severity of the situation because she is fine now

i completely know how bad this is, and am in not way trying to belittle this forum,

Then I guess you need to think about whether you're willing to respect her wishes until it's too late to do anything about this.
 
it was ACET, i know that for a fact she is reading this thread

she says "if i start to feel sick ill go"

Well with acetaminophen poisining you often don't feel sick until it's too late. People often feel fine for 2 days or so then they start to get really sick because their liver is failing. Think of acetaminophen as a poison with a time release on it. It sounds like one of the most horrible ways to die in my opinion because people often spend weeks in horrible agony before they die and there isint anything thats going to kill the pain of that.
 
Ok first off, I wasn't tryign to kill myself, I just went overboard. Im aware that teh situation is potentially dangerous to my health, but my body has vey strange way of going unharmed from things like this. I got sick last night shortly after the last of the pills kicked in, then i feel asleep. I woke up this morning, and I feel fine. I know you're all saying that I feel fine NOW but in a few days i could get extremely sick. I realise that that is a possibilty, but its also a possibility that nothing will happen. So I'll take my chances. Yes, thats incredidibly stupid and reckless. Im 90% sure that I'll be ok, and thats enough for me.
 
she saying shes ok, and refusing to go to the doctor, she doesn't believe the severity of the situation because she is fine now

i completely know how bad this is, and am in not way trying to belittle this forum,
tell her to stop attention whoring and going to the hospital.
i don t care if she dies but she ll most-likely a new liver transplant instead of a person who isn t blamable for his illness.

Well with acetaminophen poisining you often don't feel sick until it's too late. People often feel fine for 2 days or so then they start to get really sick because their liver is failing. Think of acetaminophen as a poison with a time release on it. It sounds like one of the most horrible ways to die in my opinion because people often spend weeks in horrible agony before they die and there isint anything thats going to kill the pain of that.
with 22g she can expect liver-failure in ~3 days... totally.
and it ll start toxicating soon .. probably with persistent damage.

Ok first off, I wasn't tryign to kill myself, I just went overboard. Im aware that teh situation is potentially dangerous to my health, but my body has vey strange way of going unharmed from things like this. I got sick last night shortly after the last of the pills kicked in, then i feel asleep. I woke up this morning, and I feel fine. I know you're all saying that I feel fine NOW but in a few days i could get extremely sick. I realise that that is a possibilty, but its also a possibility that nothing will happen. So I'll take my chances. Yes, thats incredidibly stupid and reckless. Im 90% sure that I'll be ok, and thats enough for me.
I approve natural selection.
 
Ok first off, I wasn't tryign to kill myself, I just went overboard. Im aware that teh situation is potentially dangerous to my health, but my body has vey strange way of going unharmed from things like this. I got sick last night shortly after the last of the pills kicked in, then i feel asleep. I woke up this morning, and I feel fine. I know you're all saying that I feel fine NOW but in a few days i could get extremely sick. I realise that that is a possibilty, but its also a possibility that nothing will happen. So I'll take my chances. Yes, thats incredidibly stupid and reckless. Im 90% sure that I'll be ok, and thats enough for me.


Highly stupid
 
Ok first off, I wasn't tryign to kill myself, I just went overboard. Im aware that teh situation is potentially dangerous to my health, but my body has vey strange way of going unharmed from things like this. I got sick last night shortly after the last of the pills kicked in, then i feel asleep. I woke up this morning, and I feel fine. I know you're all saying that I feel fine NOW but in a few days i could get extremely sick. I realise that that is a possibilty, but its also a possibility that nothing will happen. So I'll take my chances. Yes, thats incredidibly stupid and reckless. Im 90% sure that I'll be ok, and thats enough for me.

And if you're wrong your friend gets to explain to your family that he knew about this early enough for the antidote to be administered.

If you're so sure you'll be OK, what's the harm in going and getting your APAP levels checked?

Three clinical stages (phases) of acetaminophen-induced liver injury have been described.

During the first phase, that is, the initial 12 to 24 hours or so after ingestion, the patient experiences nausea and vomiting.

For the next perhaps 12 to 24 hours, which is the second phase or the so-called inactive (latent) phase, the patient feels well.

In the third phase, which begins about 48 to as late as 72 hours after the ingestion of acetaminophen, liver blood test abnormalities begin to appear. Most notably, extremely high (abnormal) levels of the liver blood tests, AST and ALT, are common with this type of liver injury. The outcome (prognosis) of the liver injury can be predicted fairly accurately on the basis of the patient's clinical exam and blood tests.

http://www.medicinenet.com/tylenol_liver_damage/page5.htm
 
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Ok first off, I wasn't tryign to kill myself, I just went overboard. Im aware that teh situation is potentially dangerous to my health, but my body has vey strange way of going unharmed from things like this. I got sick last night shortly after the last of the pills kicked in, then i feel asleep. I woke up this morning, and I feel fine. I know you're all saying that I feel fine NOW but in a few days i could get extremely sick. I realise that that is a possibilty, but its also a possibility that nothing will happen. So I'll take my chances. Yes, thats incredidibly stupid and reckless. Im 90% sure that I'll be ok, and thats enough for me.

Going overboard would be taking about 5 grams of acetaminophen at once because you where in pain. What you took is a suicidal amount and since you actually knew how to do a CWE but chose not to i don't see any other reason why you would do that unless you wanted to kill yourself.

Your not some kinda super hero, your not special and your liver is not made of cast iron! With that much acetaminophen you can look foreward to liver failure and if you don't die you will be in horrible horrible pain worse then you or i can imagine.

If you don't go to the hospital for yourself atleast go for your friend who is trying to help you would you?
 
Ok first off, I wasn't tryign to kill myself, I just went overboard. Im aware that teh situation is potentially dangerous to my health, but my body has vey strange way of going unharmed from things like this. I got sick last night shortly after the last of the pills kicked in, then i feel asleep. I woke up this morning, and I feel fine. I know you're all saying that I feel fine NOW but in a few days i could get extremely sick. I realise that that is a possibilty, but its also a possibility that nothing will happen. So I'll take my chances. Yes, thats incredidibly stupid and reckless. Im 90% sure that I'll be ok, and thats enough for me.


Keep that attitude up and you won't have a liver to harm. Seriously, you made your friend quite nervous. Don't do stupid things (85840g of apap) like that again. Read up on how to do a cold water extraction or something, because really...you "recovered" this time (hopefully), but next time...and the time after that? It's GOING to start taking a toll on your organs. TRUST ME.
 
Keep that attitude up and you won't have a liver to harm. Seriously, you made your friend quite nervous. Don't do stupid things (85840g of apap) like that again. Read up on how to do a cold water extraction or something, because really...you "recovered" this time (hopefully), but next time...and the time after that? It's GOING to start taking a toll on your organs. TRUST ME.

well, from what other people ahve been posting, since this happened, last night she hasn't recovered

would somebody with some knowledge elighten me if i am wrong about whats happening

"at this point the liver is trying to break down all the acet, but at the same time it is slowly being damaged , and the longer we wait before antidote is administered, the higher chance of liver damage/fatality will ensure?"
 
Ok first off, I wasn't tryign to kill myself, I just went overboard. Im aware that teh situation is potentially dangerous to my health, but my body has vey strange way of going unharmed from things like this. I got sick last night shortly after the last of the pills kicked in, then i feel asleep. I woke up this morning, and I feel fine. I know you're all saying that I feel fine NOW but in a few days i could get extremely sick. I realise that that is a possibilty, but its also a possibility that nothing will happen. So I'll take my chances. Yes, thats incredidibly stupid and reckless. Im 90% sure that I'll be ok, and thats enough for me.

You don't realize how serious this could have been, I don't think you even have an idea of the suffering that often comes with a mind like yours (apparently). Stay safe... being stupid rarely pays off.
 
well, from what other people ahve been posting, since this happened, last night she hasn't recovered

would somebody with some knowledge elighten me if i am wrong about whats happening

"at this point the liver is trying to break down all the acet, but at the same time it is slowly being damaged , and the longer we wait before antidote is administered, the higher chance of liver damage/fatality will ensure?"

The only way to predict what's going to happen with any certainty is from current blood APAP levels, but the dose taken is large enough to cause irreversible liver damage and/or fatality. That she feels OK at the moment is in no way a reliable indicator that she is OK.

Read up on how to do a cold water extraction or something, because really...you "recovered" this time (hopefully), but next time...and the time after that?

She knows about CWE and did it with a few of the pills - she just chose not to do it with the majority of them for some reason.
 
yeah i was reading online about paracetomol toxicity

during stage 1 there can sometimes be no side effects

she vomited sometime longer then 10 minutes after taking the last few, that could be caused the codein or the cafiene
680 mg's of codeine,
1360 mg of cafiene

During stage one and two there can be no apparent symptoms of poisoning.

Where you actually with your friend during the time she took the pills or are you depending on information she's told you about how many she took and over what period of time?
 
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