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Drug caused addictive personality?

Project Will said:
It was one of those things I look back on and am glad I tried, but not something I would want to repeat often. The perspective it gave me was far different from other psychedelics - it felt very negative. Almost like the universe was one big joke that was laughing in my face for eternity if that makes sense.
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That's interesting how you put it. I experienced more time dilation and intense all encompassing open eyed visuals, and it felt more spiritual to me. I never felt a negative aspect/vibe to it. It was very surreal, and there was lots of deja vu (like I know I have experienced this in the past; but when??), and I had a very deep appreciation for my existence after the time dilation ceased (even though I was still tripping at that point).

Cane2theLeft said:
Just FTR, amphetamine IS a phenethylamine, the name is actually an abbreviation of such (alphamethylphenethylamine)
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True story.
 
Captain.Heroin said:
That's interesting how you put it. I experienced more time dilation and intense all encompassing open eyed visuals, and it felt more spiritual to me. I never felt a negative aspect/vibe to it. It was very surreal, and there was lots of deja vu (like I know I have experienced this in the past; but when??), and I had a very deep appreciation for my existence after the time dilation ceased (even though I was still tripping at that point).
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Perhaps I just went to deep too fast. With lesser doses I experienced a flattening of everything, like the world went from 3D to 2D. I know what you mean by Deja vu. The entire trip is somehow familure - the sounds, the visuals, the taste, the experience feels like it has happened before and will happen again. Maybe this is why at higher doses it takes on an eternal repetitious feel. I believe it was negative because I lost myself very quickly before I realized what was happening, and felt that I had died and was stuck in the Deja vu, meaningless, eternal cosmos. I literally believed I would exist in that state for eternity, which was quite terrifying.
 
Project Will said:
Perhaps I just went to deep too fast. With lesser doses I experienced a flattening of everything, like the world went from 3D to 2D. I know what you mean by Deja vu. The entire trip is somehow familure - the sounds, the visuals, the taste, the experience feels like it has happened before and will happen again. Maybe this is why at higher doses it takes on a universal eternity. I believe it was negative because I lost myself very quickly before I realized what was happening and felt that I had died and was stuck in the Deja vu, meaningless, eternal cosmos. I literally believed I would exist in that state for eternity, which was quite terrifying.
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C.G. Jung believed that there are two parts to every person, one part being in the here and now, and the other being in the eternal/everlasting part of life. I could go in greater depth trying to explain this concept but I believe that people get used to living in the here and now, so the concept of eternity becomes scary/terrifying to them.
 
Captain.Heroin said:
C.G. Jung believed that there are two parts to every person, one part being in the here and now, and the other being in the eternal/everlasting part of life. I could go in greater depth trying to explain this concept but I believe that people get used to living in the here and now, so the concept of eternity becomes scary/terrifying to them.
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That's such an amazing concept. Recently I have been thinking a lot about how it is entirely possible that everything we experience is not real. It is one thing think about it, it's an entirely different thing to experience it. Psychedelics, salvia and DMT especially, have shown me that perception is the entire foundation of reality.

This is kind of corny, but imagine our consciousness is like a computer. We decode information to form a graphical user interface - none of which is real, in the true sense of the word. What you see on your desktop computer right now is faricated using 1's and 0's. These words do not actually exist in and of themselves, but are a bunch of data (100110010110010101 or whatever) that the computer interprets in the form of a visual display. What if our reality is analogous to this? The data is not 1's and 0's, but some other form of information? We see in 3 dimensions, but perhaps (as many of the great thinkers of our time believe, such as Stephen Hawking) we exist in 11 dimensions?

Ideas such as "forever" and "infinity" are, literally, incomprehensible to the human mind. It is entirely possible that our minds are incapable of understanding what truly is. So, we are forced to settle for a weird and unexplainable existence of fast food, high speed Internet and reality tv.

I don't want to get too into it right now, but it is some heavy shit. These are all just ideas anyway, not firm beliefs. Besides, the only thing that matters in day to day life is what we can see and feel, whether it is real or not... I swear I am not some conspiracy theorist, just a person with to much time and drugs on their hands ;)
 
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1s and 0s is technically binary, not always computer. I think my screen says "Addicted."

The dimension thing is interesting.

So far I took some JWH to make my too lazy to do anything, and a codeine benedryl cocktail, I am not sure which one is working at the moment.
 
Haha sorry for completely detailing your thread :)

Binary is the foundation of programming language (C++, Java, etc) and programming languages are the foundation of operating systems, right?

That sounds like a nice cocktail. Which JWH? 018?

To ease my adderall comedown I am drinking a Pepsi and GHB right now - as if Pepsi isn't bad enough on its own. This is probably why I'm rambling on with my stoner-style pseudo philosophy.
 
Its the processor, stuff like PowerPC uses ABC I think, and I don't know about RISC, while binary is strictly for x86 and 64bit. So if you programmed something you would have to rebuild it for the other stuff, reason why we can put OSX on almost any desktop is since it moved to x86.

I had JWH-018 smoked, previously I had geez I don't know how much codeine was in there.

Isn't that extremely salty? Someone just linked me to a marijuana discussion on anti carcinogens, and I am impressed. Hope 018 helps... I am derailing my own thread as we speak, I love psychedelics. I didn't even know they had GHB in the states.
 
Yes it is salty. They don't have GHB in the states ;). They have GBL in Thailand, which can be shipped to the states, which can then be turned into GHB using NaOH (lye.)

Compared to alcohol, GHB is great. It's like being drunk for very cheap (around $0.30), no hangover, not bad for your liver, and you only need to drink a couple ml.

Damn, you know a bit more about binary than I do. I took programming in high school but that was a while ago now.

I am not a big fan of JWH-018 - too heady for me. I get really paranoid and anxious. Never tried the others.
 
Project Will said:
That's such an amazing concept. Recently I have been thinking a lot about how it is entirely possible that everything we experience is not real. It is one thing think about it, it's an entirely different thing to experience it. Psychedelics, salvia and DMT especially, have shown me that perception is the entire foundation of reality.
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ever since smoking N,N DMT a few times ive been thinking about this a lot. i used to think about deep stuff before, but not the way i do now. ive had some fucking intense crazy experiences on DMT. ego death, entitys, ive been deep. the most profound, mind opening experiences i will probably ever have in my life. literally busting through the fabric of reality, so to speak. we are either awake, or asleep. but this stuff took me beyond anything i can comprehend. did things to me that i wouldn't of though was possible
 
That's such an amazing concept. Recently I have been thinking a lot about how it is entirely possible that everything we experience is not real. It is one thing think about it, it's an entirely different thing to experience it. Psychedelics, salvia and DMT especially, have shown me that perception is the entire foundation of reality.

This is kind of corny, but imagine our consciousness is like a computer. We decode information to form a graphical user interface - none of which is real, in the true sense of the word. What you see on your desktop computer right now is faricated using 1's and 0's. These words do not actually exist in and of themselves, but are a bunch of data (100110010110010101 or whatever) that the computer interprets in the form of a visual display. What if our reality is analogous to this? The data is not 1's and 0's, but some other form of information? We see in 3 dimensions, but perhaps (as many of the great thinkers of our time believe, such as Stephen Hawking) we exist in 11 dimensions?

Ideas such as "forever" and "infinity" are, literally, incomprehensible to the human mind. It is entirely possible that our minds are incapable of understanding what truly is. So, we are forced to settle for a weird and unexplainable existence of fast food, high speed Internet and reality tv.

I don't want to get too into it right now, but it is some heavy shit. These are all just ideas anyway, not firm beliefs. Besides, the only thing that matters in day to day life is what we can see and feel, whether it is real or not... I swear I am not some conspiracy theorist, just a person with to much time and drugs on their hands
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true, after in did salvia i couldnt beleive anything cause i had left my reality.
i almost pissed myself i was so scared.
the human mind is frickin rediculous
 
i think those drugs make you go into other dementions cause there is 11 proven dementions,
and theres no way what i saw was imaginary, it was real life but in other dementions,
 
I'm not sure how to explain this, but it seems to have been temporary. I don't know if MDPV is still in my system, but all my addictive nature has been gone. No stimulants besides caffeine today.

Its possible there are more than 11 dimensions at least in theory for me.
 
dildonian jr. said:
i think those drugs make you go into other dementions cause there is 11 proven dementions,
and theres no way what i saw was imaginary, it was real life but in other dementions,
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Everything you perceive is dependent upon your brain, so why don't you think it's possible for those perceptions to be artificially stimulated therein? I assure you, you were not 'in other dimensions.'
 
but my mind didnt control me, it was lost in another demension while my body was still in the third demension

like i escape reality

its the most intense thing ever and i cant explain but ileft theses demensions
 
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Should this thread be moved to the psychedelic discussion? I don't mind it changing, but it would probably be better there. Perception is a funny thing, I wouldn't know what is real or not.
 
Depressicaa said:
I have tried it, its very hard to find around here. I felt underwhelmed from what I heard before, and what I actually experienced.

I've shot like 1g of caffeine up my ass in the last few hours. I think that MDPV caused me to get addicted, but since I didn't like MDPV I have not redosed, but I keep redosing on stuff I like.
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Would one dose be enough to cause addiction? Doesn't sound logical to me especially because you didn't like it, and I did a lot of MDPV last year. THat never increased my addictive personality.
 
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