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the official 2010-11 college football thread! ver. Auburn VS Oregon?

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Alabama vs. Michigan State = Wasn't there a Saban-MSU connection? This would be a fun one as well

Yea saban was coach at MSU before he went to LSU.
 
now that I am giving the BCS Title Game more thought, I am thinking it will be an entertaining game. I am man enough to admit that I was a little salty, being a typical college football fan who prizes tradition almost too much, that we have two teams that have never appeared in a BCS championship game (I think?)

also, most of you know that the reason I am so obsessed with the game of football is defense. and neither Oregon or Auburn really play phenomenal defense (save for maybe a couple Auburn linebackers)

Oregon is a good team, with a good offensive attack. the Ducks feature RB LaMichael James, and a duo of two other lesser known RBs that are just as good as James. I'm not knocking James here, I just think they are all exceptionally talented - it's just LaMichael seems to get the bulk of the carries. Jeremiah Masoli may have been a tad more gifted as a QB in the Oregon system, but Daron Thomas has filled it quite nicely

I think Oregon has two problems on offense that give the Auburn Tigers a demanding lead on paper. although Daron Thomas is above-average, he is pretty bad when he passes downfield. Oregon just doesn't have a long-ball thread. the Ducks also run the QB option, and run it well, but it seems that the QB Thomas never keeps and runs with the ball... he is always pitching it. while this might not seem like a big deal to the average football fan, it allows the Tiger defense to lock on more to the Ducks RBs when Thomas captains the option play

the Ducks are also a lot smaller than the Tigers. if the Ducks think that they can stop Camburglar Newton by just loading up the box and forcing him to pass, it will be a looooong National Championship game for Oregon. although Newton struggled with passing the ball in the beginning of the season (just look at that near-loss to Clemson), Newton is now an extremely efficient long-ball passer (just look at the SEC title game against USCe)

right now, I am heavily favoring Auburn. sure, the Tigers have had a lot of near-losses, but they have a lot of come-from-behind wins, which boosts the confidence of any team playing in the big game. while Auburn has struggled a bit in the brutal SEC gauntlet, Oregon has struggled against teams that have not been good at all this season. for example, look at their games against the dismal California and Oregon State. I think that if Auburn played either of these two teams, it would be nowhere near as close as when Oregon barely outmatched them

coaching... both Oregon's Chip Kelly and Auburn Gene Chizik are great coaches, and I believe are in their second year. many NCAA football coaches have won the BCS in their second year (look no further than Jim Tressel and Bob Stoops of Oklahoma). sure, Oregon's former coaching great Mike Bellotti did leave Chip Kelly with a rather talented cast, but this doesn't take away much against him. Gene Chizik gets a little bit more of an upper hand when commanding my respect here, as I remember some were contemplating firing him last year

it's astonishing when you think about this time last year, Chizik and his Auburn Tigers squad BARELY beat the Northwestern Wildcats (a talented team, but no doubt a Big Ten middle-to-bottom-of-the-pack team. I'm sure most have long since forgotten this fact, in this ADD-friendly sports vernacular of today

but I haven't. and I find that factoid amazing. more of my thoughts on the other BCS bowl games to come later!
 
axl blaze said:
now that I am giving the BCS Title Game more thought, I am thinking it will be an entertaining game. I am man enough to admit that I was a little salty, being a typical college football fan who prizes tradition almost too much

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it's astonishing when you think about this time last year, Chizik and his Auburn Tigers squad BARELY beat the Northwestern Wildcats (a talented team, but no doubt a Big Ten middle-to-bottom-of-the-pack team. I'm sure most have long since forgotten this fact, in this ADD-friendly sports vernacular of today

but I haven't. and I find that factoid amazing. more of my thoughts on the other BCS bowl games to come later!
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Tradition? Your stomach must be about to eject when you imagine TCU in the Rose Bowl. Yeah, they are #3, and it gives a good #3 vs #4 matchup (something you lose a lot of the time with bowl affiliations). But c'mon...weren't you hoping for a Punk10 team to beat on? ;)

fark...I can't do it now, but you know I'll pull together some listing of conference matchups. Props to Big10+2 for getting 8 teams to bowls and tying their record....while the SEC sends 10 ;)

On Chizik and AU....the NC is his first game with a winning record 8o How ya like them apples?
 
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Props to Big10+2 for getting 8 teams to bowls and tying their record....while the SEC sends 10 ;)
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props... but I'm hesitant to give it out as much as you. in today's college football BCS system, a team pretty much has to try hard NOT to make it into a bowl game. the only teams that didn't make it into a bowl game in the Big Ten were Minnesota (of course, one of the worst FBS teams this year), Indiana (actually had some swagger with their passing attack), and Purdue

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On Chizik and AU....the NC is his first game with a winning record 8o How ya like them apples?
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pretty amazing, like I said, I remember this time last year when they almost got bitch-smacked by Northwestern in OT
 
Holy shit....Look what I just found (Sportslinknetwork) for number crunching. It's a bitch to figure out how to set the calculator correctly, but once you do - you can figure out anything related to college football. For example, did you know that all time the Big10+2 vs SEC is 22-35-0 (0.386) in bowl games; 27-33-2 (0.452) in regular season, leaving them 49-68-2 (0.420) overall. =D

Similarly, to pick on tOSU, they went 0-9 in bowl games against the SEC (lest anyone forget :p )....but 3-1-1 (0.700) in regular season game, putting them at 3-10-1 overall (0.25).

In fairness, I'd have to report FL has been 5-4 (0.556) in bowls vs Big10+2, 4-2 in regular season (0.67), putting them 9-6-0 (0.60) overall against that conference.



EDIT - the site that led me to this database was SECFans or something or other, where they published an article comparing SEC vs each conference at the end of last year. Even there, they had to acknowledge the Big10+2 was only sending it's conference champ to a bowl for many, many years. There were fewer bowls, granted, but it means some good teams from the Big10+2 weren't allowed to compete and win (or lose...).
 
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well, I'll just be reconciled in the fact that FLA has to play lowly Penn State in a bowl game this year

but in all seriousness, I am damn happy with tOSU. although we have been a game short of the National Championship in the last three or so years, the best thing about being a Buckeye is that they are CONSTANTLY reloading. I don't think Jim Tressel has had a less-than-above-average season ever since his inaugural year

sure, it's great to be an Alabama, Auburn, Georgia, Florida, Texas, USCw, etc fan - but ya'll have some serious highs followed by some abysmal lows. I consider myself blessed in that tOSU is competing for a National Championship almost every year - while all you lesser fans can only hope to do accomplish this once every three or so years :D
 
unless the vols are in the national championship, i pretty much hate this time of year. we have a bunch of meaningless games to look forward to. i mean, i'll watch them, but it would be so fucking rad if we were gearing up for a playoff right now.

whatever.

axl, i think the OSU/AK game is going to be one of the better ones for sure.
 
yeah, CS, I agree. many of us rabid college football fans tend to forget that Ryan Mallet was actually on Michigan's roster, until Lloyd Carr stepped away and Dick Rod took over the Wolverine football program. why would a legitimate, NFL-ready, pocket passer in Mallet want to try to fit into Coach Dick Rod's gimmick offense?

as for the Sugar Bowl, I am excited to watch two star QBs in Terrelle Pryor and Ryan Mallet go against one another. the Razorbacks have offensive threats all over the place, I think they have a 1,000 yard WR and a 1,000 yard RB to compliment Mallet. the phenomenal, NFL-laden defensive front of the Buckeyes will have their hands full - that is for sure

although it's always disappointing when the Buckeyes are playing in a bowl game that isn't the National Championship, I think this team and their seniors will be up for the challenge. this team under Jim Tressel has won 6 straight Big Ten rings, and beat Michigan what is it? 8 times now? but these accolades are moot, as the Buckeyes are still oh fer against the SEC in bowl games. it will be a HUGE accomplishment if the Bucks can beat the Razorbacks, and to finally get over that SEC bowl game black cloud. tOSU should be in the BCS Title Game this time next year, and I have little doubt that they will be up against no other team save for an SEC team. the time to get over that aforementioned SEC bowl supremacy, and to build confidence for next year is NOW

that being said, I actually think the Arkansas Razorbacks are favored right now in Vegas to best the Buckeyes by a touchdown

I have not even thought about game predictions yet. this game could go either way. it just depends on what team's QB is going to pull through and dominate in a close game. will Mallet stay poised in the pocket and overcome adversity, or will TP rely on his sheer athleticism to out run defenders, and on his arm (his passing stats have been slowly increasing year-after-year, and game-after-game)

the Sugar Bowl is all about adversity and QB performance. tOSU's TP has won a couple close games from behind, in adversity-laden games. my most striking memory of Mallet was when he folded under pressure playing at Alabama, against the Crimson Tide. he is the leader of that team and the obvious leader of their offense. if Mallet can avoid the same type of 4th quarter collapse, and perform like a leader and distribute well to all his offensive weapons of mass destruction, the odds of Arkansas winning increase by heaps
 
Alabama vs. Michigan State... I think that Michigan State is one of the most over-rated teams and have thought so all season, and I think the Tide should beat up on them pretty badly, with the motivation of proving themselves despite their record, and also making a statement about the strength of their conference schedule this season. I'm trying to be as fair as I can here as a Bama fan... I have honestly thought all season that Michigan State was over-rated, though... (Lee Corso had them at #1 for a week... I was stupified!)

Wisconsin vs. TCU... I think Wisconsin has shown that they are a pretty good team, and I'm not convinced that TCU is. I think the spread on this game should is insane (TCU by 3)... I'd like to see TCU play well, but I just don't see it.

Arkansas vs. Ohio State... I really was hoping to see Bama vs. Ohio State all the weeks leading up to the Iron Bowl... It would be a really good matchup! Arkansas is a atypical SEC team and I would have liked to see what are two pretty similar teams in different conferences (IMO) go at it. For the record, I pick Ohio State to win this based on good D play.

VT vs. Stanford... Wow, the potential this game has IMO. Neither conference is overly strong (not to insult the Pac-10 here; they're definitely better than the ACC!), but VT is a top-caliber team and could play with any team in the nation IMO. Stanford, I don't think could quite play with any team, though they are a very good team and I have a lot of respect for them. They can certainly win this game, but I pick VT based on offensive explosiveness.

Auburn vs. Oregon, I really depends on which team gets into a rhythm first. I think Auburn has the advantage, but if Oregon's offense gets into a rhythm early and their defense keeps Auburn out of rhythm for a few series, then as we saw in the Iron Bowl, Auburn could lose a lot of its confidence on offense. Lucky for Auburn, they got it back in the second half, but they certainly can't rely another comeback like the Iron Bowl!
 
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I agree that Michigan State may be a tad bit over-rated. they never play an out-of-conference schedule on par with tOSU's intimidating OOC schedule. although they are a solid team that has for sure doubled any of East Lansing's pre-season hopes... MSU is still only an above-average team. Bama is a great team. at the very least, one has to commend MSU's phenomenal coach Mark Dantonio - he has competed in the Big Ten when his program obviously doesn't get the recruits that Big Ten schools such as tOSU, Wisco, and Iowa receive. but Nick Saban is an even better coach who does, in fact, get those 5 star recruits. I look at Bama winning by two TDs, despite Sparty playing their heart out after being upset and feeling slighted over tOSU and Wisco getting BCS games

I hear you on tOSU's bowl match-up. I was hoping to see the Buckeyes against more similar and familiar opponents like LSU, Bama, or even USCe. both BAMA or LSU VS tOSU would be a BCS wet dream in the Sugar Bowl. but... looks like the Buckeyes are forced to go up against Ryan "the ultimate bro" Mallet. tOSU might be the slight underdog, but I most certainly hope they pull it out

if you think the BCS Championship comes down to which teams gets a rhythm first, I say it the winner will be Oregon.... hear me out. those Auburn kids have never traveled very far from their confines in the South East region of the US. they will be taking a plane, across a couple timezones, and into an alien Arizona - it might as well be Jalisco, Mexico for those Alabama fucks! mean the while, Oregon has played in Arizona many times, due to two teams from the Pac-10 residing in the state. for example, Bama dominated most of the BCS title game last year, but even a Bama fan can't discount the fact that the Crimson Tide were rather sluggish in the first quarter. of course, after that, the game was a boring sham since Twink McCoy got injured... but Saban's crew for sure needed to get the crust out of their eyes and the ear wax out of they ears for the first qaurter

although the Ducks might start out a bit more on fire than the Tigers, I still foretell the Tigers winning :)
 
The BCS system has really kept me away from college football over the past few years since it only favors the big name schools, but the fact that Temple, with an 8-4 record and a win over UConn, didn't make a bowl game is absolutely terrible. I refuse to watch another second of college football until they disband the BCS and institute a playoff.
 
out of all the travesties and absurd horrors the BCS has tortured us through the last 20 or so years - the fact that Temple is not in a bowl game really irks you? I mean, this is a problem that the Owls didn't get in, but really only a minor blip in the problematic BCS formula over the years. are you a Temple Owls fan or something?

this year, at least the BCS got it close enough. Auburn VS Oregon is a helluva lot more attractive than another TCU VS BSU
 
MD Specialist said:
My Predictions..

Oregon will go undefeated in the Pac 10. Especially if they start that speedy sophomore at Q and he steps up while having LaMicheal James to hand off and pitch too. Oregon will be a big play high scoring offensive team. The only team they'll have trouble with is Stanford, and Oregon State (because it's a hated rivalry). If they win the Pac 10 they will win the Rose Bowl as well. Unless they went undefeated and made it to the National Championship game. Chance of that happening 63%
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Not bad :)

My other predictions at the beginning of the season not as good. I have to say now that the regular season is over this year has been fun. Auburn huh? Cam Newton is an incredible payer... But I guess you have to be if your dad pimps you out for over $150,000 you better get your team to the national championship. I do have to say that was one incredible comeback against Alabama.

This will be a good national championship game. I am going with Oregon to win their first national championship.

My ratings for the conferences:

1. SEC; Although not as strong as in years past, the SEC still had three of the top football teams in the nation just in the West. Auburn, Alabama, and Arkansas could have beat any team in the nation at any time, and besides Auburn they couldn't just win every game. If Newton would have played for Florida like he was supposed too, it would be Florida in the national championship.
2. Big Ten; It pains me to say this... I still feel as though the conference play within the Big Ten is not near to other conferences. I have to give respect to good teams when it's due. Wisconsin, Ohio State, and Michigan State were good teams. Wisconsin is definitely the best of the three. The Big Ten impressed me at the beginning of the season.. then non-conferences teams the Big Ten was beating up were just bad.
3. Pac 10; Oregon and Stanford are the top two teams in the nation in my honest opinion. Oregon is going to the Big game, and Stanford is going to the Orange Bowl. The rest of the Pac 10 had their glimpses but all fell short. Cal was great at home, terrible on the road. Arizona and Arizona St. were good teams and could play with a lot of schools around nation, and possibly win. I'm very glad to see USC go down... down... down.
4. Big 12; Although not nearly as good of any of the conferences above them I will put them just above the Mountain West and the WAC. Oklahoma and Oklahoma St. were good consistent teams. Texas, Texas Tech, and Missouri were inconsistently good and consistently bad. Nebraska made it fun but so did Michigan at the beginning.
5. WAC; Boise St. is still one of the greatest teams in the nation, but my Wolf Pack is the best team in the WAC. Hawaii was pretty good, and so was Fresno St. Could you image if TCU, Utah, and BYU stayed in the Mountain West, with next year Boise St., Nevada, and Fresno St. going the Mountain West? It would have been a conference that would demand an automatic bid for a BCS bowl game, or really begin a playoff conversation. But TCU had to go water down their play, Utah went to the Pac 10 (don't really blame them there), and BYU wants to reach Notre Dame status without the backup, history, and athletic program to get there.. BAD DECISION!
6. Mountain West; TCU is a great team.. Utah was ok (at the beginning) and the rest of the conference would play hard.
7. ACC; Although this conference is right there with the WAC and the Mountain West, Boise did beat Virginia Tech who won the ACC. Virginia Tech is another team now then it was back then. Florida St., NC State, and Florida St. were ok. Miami... terrible. I believe the top teams in the WAC and MWC could play any day with the top team in the ACC and win.
8. Big East; Lets go UCONN!

The Bowl Season will be good to see just how these conferences stack up.

Go Pack! Beat Boston College!
 
Average Whiteboy said:
The BCS system has really kept me away from college football over the past few years since it only favors the big name schools, but the fact that Temple, with an 8-4 record and a win over UConn, didn't make a bowl game is absolutely terrible. I refuse to watch another second of college football until they disband the BCS and institute a playoff.
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Umm, I watched Temple play and they were not anything special. While the process is not great, they do match up the bowls pretty well most of the time...

axl blaze said:
out of all the travesties and absurd horrors the BCS has tortured us through the last 20 or so years - the fact that Temple is not in a bowl game really irks you? I mean, this is a problem that the Owls didn't get in, but really only a minor blip in the problematic BCS formula over the years. are you a Temple Owls fan or something?

this year, at least the BCS got it close enough. Auburn VS Oregon is a helluva lot more attractive than another TCU VS BSU
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Lol, my thoughts exactly, on both points!
 
in other college football news, Dave "the Stash" Wannstedt was just fired

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and now it is expected that Urban Meyer will announce his resignation from Florida at 5 PM today? as much as I do despise FLA, I have usually left Meyer out of my mockery. he is an Ohio State guy, but besides from that he is a college football genius. although not even 10 National Championships would elevate him higher, in the minds of Gators fans, than Steve Spurrier - Coach Meyer is well above Old Ball Coach status for me

college football needs Urban Meyer. but it looks like those often mentioned health issues are bugging the coach again :\
 
He will either return to Gainsville in 2 years ( after Zook takes charge of recruiting classes for him :) ) and win Mulitiple NC's again :)

OR

Pop up in Denver in a few weeks, and name Tebow as his starter for 2011 ;)
 
Holy fuck.

Just checked the headlines, done deal - resignation.

Fuck.




Please lord or lord almighty pretty please DO NOT appoint our OC as the Head Coach....even as interim.
 
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