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MDMA - First Experience (100mg + 50mg) - Underwhelmed

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I had my first experience with MDMA last night, but I didn't really experience anything like what I'd expected from reading many trip reports on its euphoric & empathogenic qualities, so I came away quite disappointed & wondered whether members here with lots more experience might be able to point me as to why.

I initially crushed 100mg of MDMA in crystalline form into some water & downed it on a completely empty stomach. From previous reports, this crystalline MDMA is supposed to be very good quality & comes back a dark black on a Marquis reagent test. I wasn't really feeling anything like a pronounced come-up an hour & ten minutes later, bar some fairly mild stimulation, so I railed 50mg of the crushed crystal to see if that would get me higher.

At 3 hours after the initial oral dose I was definitely quite relaxed, but there still wasn't really any euphoria or similar feelings. Appreciation of music was enhanced a bit, colours a little more vibrant, but again it wasn't very noteworthy. In comparison to my first times with mephedrone & methylone I was left quite underwhelmed by MDMA the next day, when I've heard & read such stellar things about it. Physically, my pupils were very dilated during the "peak", but I didn't experience any other physical symptoms & my heart-rate stayed under 100bpm the whole night.

I'm a tall 85kg male, so might it be the initial oral dose was just too low for my body-weight, & railing MDMA in crystalline form at low doses is ineffective? Perhaps set & setting played a major part too, as although I was alone with music, movies & friends online, I still wasn't particularly active. I should probably have planned to take the MDMA at a party or with friends rather than alone, to see if it made the world of difference. Having other people physically around would probably have brought out the empathic traits of being on the drug more. I guess I'll wait a few months & play it safe with my seretonergic system before trying it again in a different setting, but I'm eager to hear other people's suggestions.
 
Are you on any SSRIs? 150 mg would surely have a first timer rolling pretty hard. It's either that or it was cut pretty badly.
 
No, no SSRIs or any other prescription drugs. I did drink a pint of beer around 2 hours before taking the oral dose, but I think that'd likely be fairly clear out of my system by then.
 
Zewt said:
No, no SSRIs or any other prescription drugs. I did drink a pint of beer around 2 hours before taking the oral dose, but I think that'd likely be fairly clear out of my system by then.
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drinking beer would not keep you from rolling. i drink beer or liquor before and while rolling sometimes. even though i dont advise it because i hear it can be dangerous.
 
I feel like some alcohol actually improves my rolls.

Sounds like you got some crap product man. I'm a little confused by your wording, did you test it? Surely 100mg bombed on an empty stomach should have got a first timer rolling balls.
 
Didn't test it myself, but saw test results from someone who'd bought from the same supply very recently. I have a new kit on the way to test what I have left, to see for myself.

It puzzles me too. It definitely wasn't an unpleasant time, I just got nothing out of it approaching what I expected of a roll.
 
Zoinky said:
What kind of pills were they?
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Not pills, crystal. The crystals themselves were clear, glass-like shards with a very slight yellow twinge to them. From what I've heard & read, that's not outside the limits of what you'd expect from crystal/powder MDMA, where the colour is sensitive to impurities or the product may just end up dyed for the hell of it.
 
Unfortunately testing kits are not a direct measure of purity, but more of a qualitative indicator of what substances are present in the testing subject. There are many impure pills/powders that have tested strongly positive in all reagent tests for mdma that no one could roll off of without taking 2-3 doses of. There undoubtedly was some mdma, but very likely it was cut with some medium. 150 mg should have had anyone without a lot of tolerance floored (in a good way).
 
yeah i must agree, 100mg for a first time sounds like a nice dose, hell when its available i aim for a nice 140mg dose, but im rather experienced :)
your product probably was cut unfortunately, there are that manny alternatives that dealers can use these days they can trick most of us at the best of times.
 
My first time using MDMA, me and a friend shared a gram. It was good like you say, but nothing special. I was searching and searching for the high, and was a little perplexed.

However, a month later I purchase another gram, take a bit, go outside and have a cigarette, and think of a very dear friend, and all at once all the love and joy in the world hit me like a nuke. It was the single greatest feeling in the world, but I never felt anything close to it the first time I took molly. Ever since, though, now that the connection in my head has been made, I have been able to return to this level every time I take MDMA.

So maybe the problem is a mental block. If you don't know what MDMA is supposed to feel like when its at its best, then this could become an inhibition. Next time you take MDMA just sit and think of someone you love.
 
JSPete said:
My first time using MDMA, me and a friend shared a gram. It was good like you say, but nothing special. I was searching and searching for the high, and was a little perplexed.

However, a month later I purchase another gram, take a bit, go outside and have a cigarette, and think of a very dear friend, and all at once all the love and joy in the world hit me like a nuke. It was the single greatest feeling in the world, but I never felt anything close to it the first time I took molly. Ever since, though, now that the connection in my head has been made, I have been able to return to this level every time I take MDMA.

So maybe the problem is a mental block. If you don't know what MDMA is supposed to feel like when its at its best, then this could become an inhibition. Next time you take MDMA just sit and think of someone you love.
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If he actually took 150mg him rolling had nothing to do with his state of mind. It was just shitty product. Your brain cant fight off that much xtc and stay sober.

I took some blue lollipops for my first time and that was only about 75 grams of MDMA and I had a nice roll. 150 would have had me on the floor.
 
The only time I managed to 'psych' myself out of a good time on quality product was when I considered and re-considered whether or not I should do it that night....for about three hours. I kept telling myself how it would be the wrong thing to do and that I should wait until a couple of months later. When I finally did swallow it, the come up was long and the ride too short. This was extraordinary anxiety though...not just 'oh, I wonder whether i should do this tonight ?'

Tried the same pills two months later and they were fantastic...but I was totally relaxed and it had all been planned out.
 
Do you use methylone/mephedrone on a regular basis? Maybe there's some cross-tolerance there?

Other than that, I'd say either you got low-grade product or your expectations were too high (which is common with a drug named "Ecstasy"). I'd always heard that MDMA was the purest, most euphoric feeling of happiness I'd ever experience, which simply didn't turn out to be true. It was great, unique and beautiful...but not the heaven-on-earth I'd imagined.

My first time with MDMA, I felt absolutely nothing. Same with pot, alcohol, hydrocodone and most other drugs. Maybe the second time will be the breakthrough experience you're seeking.
 
Lady Codone said:
Do you use methylone/mephedrone on a regular basis? Maybe there's some cross-tolerance there?

Other than that, I'd say either you got low-grade product or your expectations were too high (which is common with a drug named "Ecstasy"). I'd always heard that MDMA was the purest, most euphoric feeling of happiness I'd ever experience, which simply didn't turn out to be true. It was great, unique and beautiful...but not the heaven-on-earth I'd imagined.

My first time with MDMA, I felt absolutely nothing. Same with pot, alcohol, hydrocodone and most other drugs. Maybe the second time will be the breakthrough experience you're seeking.
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I'm sure it varies from person to person, but my first real roll was more or less heaven on earth. The first time I bombed 100mg, we were just at my buddy's house, I simply felt a "percocet kind of feeling" as I remember describing it. The next time we did it, we rolled face at another friend's house and had an incredible time, far more intense than percocet could give!! The third time, however, I must say I reached that heaven on earth feeling. 100mg on an empty stomach, at my house, in my comfort zone, with my girlfriend, and holy jesus it hit me like 5 freight trains and I remember feeling like my brain was literally melting into a puddle of love. For those couple of hours, not only was it heaven on earth, but I felt like God himself too. :)

Also, I find MDMA/MDA to be drugs that HEAVILY depend on set and setting. Granted, it's difficult to have a shitty time on MDMA, no matter what, however the same MDMA that gives you a so-so roll at home may blow your face off out at a party or club, or with a special person. I currently have some MDA on hand that I took 100mg at home with friends. Awesome time, felt great, all that, but wasn't anything to write home about. Took 100mg of the exact same MDA and took my girlfriend out to a live techno show, and that was an experience to remember for the rest of my life. We danced together for, no exaggeration, 4 straight hours on the dance floor without even realizing it. We were dancing and suddenly the lights popped on, I look at my watch and it's 2am. Went home still doing pretty well and had mindblowing sex. I still have one of those badboys waiting to be nommed. I'm thinking of dropping that on top of 100mg MDMA next time I get some. Whoa boy...

Having said all that, no matter how good a drug is, if you have too high expectations for it, it's going to suck. I'm a fan of going into a drug experience pretending I didn't take anything. Obviously, I can't fool myself into thinking I really didn't, but just toying around with that mindset actually does make a difference. It's also fun to play with your friends, saying things to each other like "Hey umm, are we on something?" "Nah man I say no to drug..ug...uggg...uggg ohh fuck it I feel sooo good" :p
 
my friends first roll was alone in the nature, he didnt get high or anythink, but second time, same dose, he was aou with friends and had the best night in his life on xtc,
i think first time setting isnt good home alone
 
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