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Naming RC's

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griffenspade

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Ok, it gets difficult to communicate using chemical names, or shorthand abbeviations for reserch chemicals.

I purpose as psychnauts, as we chart new areas of the mind, it is only right we get to name RC's. Just like when christopher columbus sailed the ocean blue, and all the other guys who discovered new things.

I will begin first, last night I got to take 2CT7.

While tripping ballz, this girl next to me randomly bursted out laughting and exclaimed "THIS IS AWSOME-NESS"

So 2CT7 is now officially awsomeness!!

2CT7=awsomeness!!!

Who else whants to give it a shot?
 
you didnt invent 2CT7 though so i dont see how its your right to name it
you're free to name a compound if you invent it, though
 
A friend of mine agreed that 2ct2 was ghetto ecstasy.
We didn't want to call it by it's real name :/.
 
I don't find the current naming conventions confusing at all. One could argue that if you do, you probably should avoid using these drugs.
 
griffenspade said:
Ok, it gets difficult to communicate using chemical names, or shorthand abbeviations for reserch chemicals.
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How is it difficult? It's a short string of letters that tell you specifically what it is. If you invent a slang term for a chemical, then you have to remember twice as much information-- the slang term plus what it actually is. It makes no sense.

Chemical nomenclature is specifically designed to avoid confusion and make precise communication simple.
 
hey rog why is 2C-D called 2C-D?
like i get the 2C but why did shulgin use D for like methyl
like DOM the M stands for methyl ya know
but why did he use D for 2CD?
 
Roger&Me said:
Chemical nomenclature is specifically designed to avoid confusion and make precise communication simple.
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This is the essence of harm reduction. Know what you're doing before you do it! Of course the name is just the start, the next step is understanding the pharmacology. We can't all be pharmacologists though, nor should we have to be, just to enjoy and benefit from a drug experience.

I'm not sure where I stand on this line, just how educated does a druggie have to be? I suppose: at least enough to be safe.

Why don't they teach drug safety in schools?
 
LSDMDMA&9035769 said:
hey rog why is 2C-D called 2C-D?
like i get the 2C but why did shulgin use D for like methyl
like DOM the M stands for methyl ya know
but why did he use D for 2CD?
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interesting that you ask this. the way i understand it, the process goes like this:

start with TMA-2 (second in a series of possible trimethoxyamphetamines)
remove one oxygen (DesOxy) and replace with a Methyl
hence, DOM.

then we jump to the related series of compounds with only a two-carbon chain connecting the ring to the amine (2C)
and since one of these compounds is otherwise identical to the three-carbon DOM, it gets the name 2C-D

yeah, it does make more sense to call it 2C-M, but he who first invented it got to name it so it will forever be as such =) it really reflects the process that shulgin and his associates went through in their blind quest of these molecules.
 
LSDMDMA&9035769 said:
hey rog why is 2C-D called 2C-D?
like i get the 2C but why did shulgin use D for like methyl
like DOM the M stands for methyl ya know
but why did he use D for 2CD?
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I think i remember something regarding the San Francisco subway system having something to do with the naming regime of certain chemicals that Shulgin discovered, possibly these.

I'm not sure though, it's just something vague in the back of my mind, and i can't be bothered to go and search for the exact details of what occured...

Anyone here know anything about that?
 
DOM is probably not called DOD because that would stand for DesOxyDesoxy :D (and also for Date of Death? hehe)

anyway about names that are arbitrary and have little to do with a drug, even if you name a drug NRG that gives you energy... it's confusing like Roger said because there are no widely accepted trivial terms for many things and it is a bit commercializing.
Confusion and commercialization are two things we just need to avoid with strong (psychedelic) drugs - or even weak drugs in principle - these compounds already have a name and you should just pay attention to use them well.
Any idea how long it would take to get a name for T-7 to catch on if you're just a random guy? And you're not the first to try and name it. So the consequence is as said a lot of confusion and no consensus.
T-7 was actually sold as Blue Mystic for a good while in the Netherlands in smart shops (legally I might add), so if that doesn't work as a name just forget about it.

Don't bother with flip names either please.
 
griffenspade said:
Ok, it gets difficult to communicate using chemical names, or shorthand abbeviations for reserch chemicals.

I purpose as psychnauts, as we chart new areas of the mind, it is only right we get to name RC's. Just like when christopher columbus sailed the ocean blue, and all the other guys who discovered new things.

I will begin first, last night I got to take 2CT7.

While tripping ballz, this girl next to me randomly bursted out laughting and exclaimed "THIS IS AWSOME-NESS"

So 2CT7 is now officially awsomeness!!

2CT7=awsomeness!!!

Who else whants to give it a shot?
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Ladies and Gentlemen, there we have it, the number one candidate for most retarded thread of the year 2010
 
iHaveKnownAndLoved said:
I think i remember something regarding the San Francisco subway system having something to do with the naming regime of certain chemicals that Shulgin discovered, possibly these.

I'm not sure though, it's just something vague in the back of my mind, and i can't be bothered to go and search for the exact details of what occured...

Anyone here know anything about that?
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The muni-metro thing is under J, methyl-J and methyl-K.

Solipsis said:
DOM is probably not called DOD because that would stand for DesOxyDesoxy :D (and also for Date of Death? hehe)
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And plain desoxy is taken by 3,5-dimethoxy-4-methyl-PEA. It's a shame Shulgin didn't go any further with that, I bet 3,5-dimethoxy-4-ethyl/propyl-PEA/A would be pretty cool. I guess the PEA's would have to be called DOEM (or DOME? :)) and DOPM. But then that's really confusing with the other DOX's being amphetamines. Never mind...

mi5 said:
Ladies and Gentlemen, there we have it, the number one candidate for most retarded thread of the year 2010
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hehe, maybe!
 
Damn i feel stupid my idea got shot down now : (

I guess its just one of those you gotta b there kidna things. Everybody thought, it sounded like a good idea while tripping on 2CT7....

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