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is homosexuality a choice?

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How in the world is homosexuals adopting kids sick? Can they not love like the rest of us? Can they not share their experiences with young ones to help them make it through the world? Are they not intelligent enough to teach their kids the basics of education?

Kids from homosexual families grow up like any other kid, but with too parents of the same sex, that's it...

Fuck, I much rather see kids from a homosexual parent house hold than from a christian parent house hold. I find teaching kids to be religious at a young age to be despicable.
 
I haven't read through all eleven pages of this thread, but plain and simple yes you choose who you sleep with, but you don't choose who you are attracted to. I'm gay and I certainly would not have chosen to be this way if I had a choice. Common sense tells you that no one would, unless they just like going through hardships.
 
Gay adoption is sick?

I grew up in a single-parent home and because of this we had serious financial problems my whole childhood. I would have taken 2 gay parents or 2 lesbians to form a 2 parent household over a single parent household any day. I don't care if my mom were to have had a lesbian partner. As long as I had 2 loving parents and a financially stable household, that would be fine with me. Just because 2 parents are gay does not mean the child will be gay. Straight parents have gay children and gay parents have straight children.

Any explanation for how gay adoption is "sick" Firebrand?
 
"Genetically, you are born to be attracted to either the opposite sex, the same sex, or both. It is not a choice, although many people still have some traits that may attract them to someone of the same sex (if they are straight), but that does not mean they are necissarly gay, they are just human"

That comes from my sex therapist, who is extremely smart and educated.

So to answer the question: NO it is not a choice, you are born to like what you like.

Everyone is a LITTLE gay, as you see women playing around with women from time to time. Guys are the same way, but hide it because the way society immediately labels a male sex instantly gay for having these human thoughts.
 
Cloudy said:
How in the world is homosexuals adopting kids sick? Can they not love like the rest of us? Can they not share their experiences with young ones to help them make it through the world? Are they not intelligent enough to teach their kids the basics of education?

Kids from homosexual families grow up like any other kid, but with too parents of the same sex, that's it...

Fuck, I much rather see kids from a homosexual parent house hold than from a christian parent house hold. I find teaching kids to be religious at a young age to be despicable.
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Right on Cloudy! Religious indoctrination is surely encroaching on other people's boundaries
 
Ok, let's ditch the causality crap for a while and make this simple.

Your sexuality is whatever turns your crank. You do not get to consciously decide this. To what extent you choose to indulge is a choice. Your sexuality is not.

The end.
 
^^^^ agreed.

The only conscious decision involved is whether or not come come out of the closet, or to stay boxed in due to the pressures one feels they cannot otherwise face.
 
I think there is no such thing as just gay or straight. I think most people are somewhere between the two. The people who are in the middle are the bi-ones and the ones closer to the gay side are the ones only interested in the same sex. I think you are born with a pre-disposition which will place you somewhere on this “scale”. And then depending on your up-bringing, you may slide “slightly” one way or the other. That’s my personal opinion!
 
Omg. This is unproven! Like in my prior post it is unethical to study this. everyone says you don't choose but yet again there is no study to prove this. Imo I don't think your born either or. are you born with your personality? NO. It is something that you develop throughout your childhood. Events in life, ppl you associate your self with, traumas, parents, friends, school! If you ask a ten year old if he is gay or straight he won't know the answer . At a young age as such you are not attracted to anything not guys or girls. Everyone has the Cuutiies and thinking of sex as gross. when you start to developed sexually is when you start noticing what you like

As far as whether people are born gay? It is not yet known and may never be. It is one of those complex questions that would be unethical to study in a controlled experiment (involving identical twins brought up differently to see if their sexuality could be influenced). It is much like your personality. Are you born with your personality traits or are they the result of environmental factors? As far as we are able to tell, both nature and nurture shape a person. It would not be unreasonable to believe that one's sexual orientation is similarly influenced by such factors.

Got this online .
 
Monkeybizness said:
If you ask a ten year old if he is gay or straight he won't know the answer . At a young age as such you are not attracted to anything not guys or girls. when you start to developed sexually is when you start noticing what you like
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i didnt knew what was gay or straight or that being gay might not be accepted by some but i sure did knew i was into girls when i was 7
and i would get boner thinking about girls
and i remember this pretty well

Everyone has the Cuutiies and thinking of sex as gross.
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thats cultural, if you live somewhere where they insist that sex is bad and we shouldnt talk about sex to children and kids watch disney cartoon where animal have no sexual organs and the likes well sure, some kids might think that sex is gross

the Oedipus complex is well and alive cuz we are sexual creature from the start

The Oedipus complex, in psychoanalytic theory, is a group of largely unconscious (dynamically repressed) ideas and feelings which concentrate on the desire to possess the parent of the opposite sex and eliminate the parent of the same sex.[1][2] According to classical psychoanalytic theory, the complex appears during the so-called "oedipal phase" of libidinal and ego development; i.e. between the ages of three and five years, though oedipal manifestation may be detected earlier.
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im bisexual, i cant say that was a choice. but im not sure i would say i was born that way..... maybe there are factors when we are young influencing whether we are gay, straight or bisexual. i was never molested or sexually abused in any way when i was younger, but i remember i made out with my best friend when we were about 8. a female. since then i have never kissed another girl, just being honest. but my first kiss was with a girl.
 
DrunkardsDream said:
How would you know? You're not a bisexual man and I doubt you are even a gay man.

Being bisexual or homosexual is not a choice.

Who in their right mind as a teenager or child, or even young adult when image and status and wanting to be normal are very common and at their peak in people, would actually choose to be a second class citizen that everyone that's not heterosexual pretty much is?

I'm fine with being a gay man now but I know that for myself and most bisexual and gay men coming out was not fun and it's something that straight/hetero people never have to do and do not understand.
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I guess you are a bit slow but I said you are born one way or the other. Congrats on being gay!
 
Was not a choice for me

Every since I was tiny I was more attracted to men than women. In high school I went through a bisexual phase and had a lot of girlfriends...the messed up thing about it is:

I bond more emotionally with a woman but in bed I much rather have a man lol

Im cursed!
 
Monkeybizness said:
Omg. This is unproven! Like in my prior post it is unethical to study this. everyone says you don't choose but yet again there is no study to prove this. Imo I don't think your born either or. are you born with your personality? NO. It is something that you develop throughout your childhood. Events in life, ppl you associate your self with, traumas, parents, friends, school! If you ask a ten year old if he is gay or straight he won't know the answer . At a young age as such you are not attracted to anything not guys or girls. Everyone has the Cuutiies and thinking of sex as gross. when you start to developed sexually is when you start noticing what you like

As far as whether people are born gay? It is not yet known and may never be. It is one of those complex questions that would be unethical to study in a controlled experiment (involving identical twins brought up differently to see if their sexuality could be influenced). It is much like your personality. Are you born with your personality traits or are they the result of environmental factors? As far as we are able to tell, both nature and nurture shape a person. It would not be unreasonable to believe that one's sexual orientation is similarly influenced by such factors.

Got this online .
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Completely, completely untrue. Like seriously, facepalm. There have been tons of studies on this on both living and dead people (including identical twins - you don't need to impose a lifestyle on them, you simply look at identical twins that happen to have been raised by different sets of parents or spent a reasonable chunk of their lives in divergent situations, which happens enough to get a good measure), and they have mostly come to very similar conclusions. Those conclusions are 1) that there does appear to be a genetic/biological component that is too complicated for us to understand right now even though we can physically see it (differing structures in the brain, different ratios of hormones being produced, etc but we don't know the specific genetic sequences involved) and 2) there is definitely a social component related to how we are raised and all that. For instance, it is intuitively not shocking to think that someone that was mostly straight but might have had a tinge of homosexuality in them but was raised in an uber-conservative household would turn out 100% straight. It's also intuitive that people with a history of particular kinds of sexual abuse or sexual examples might lean one way or the other as a result.

This actually is not that complicated, and it makes me sad that people think it is for some reason.
 
If you live in Oklahoma it's a choice. If you move your ass away from the assbackwards portion of the country it becomes apparent that it is not a choice and you are born that way.

Resurrected thread of a Bluelighter past... spooky.
 
Paulycodone said:
I was also born in Laguna Beach so it wasn't like there was much of an option lmao
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que? is that a gay place as i just know it as a place where dumb bimbo's are watched and heard in excessive video detail;)

my personal term for connoisseurs of laguna beach was a laguna bitch=D
 
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