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southernsmoke

southernsmoke

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I overdosed on benzos last weekend. i look a mixture of xanax, valium, and restoril (20x2mg pills and 60x1mg pills of xanax, 1x10mg valium, 10x15mg of restoril) I spent 1 night in the hospital and 4 days in a medical center. I am looking for a long term treatment/rehab center in the southeast USA. preferably alabama, florida, south carolina, north carolina, or georgia. it needs to be professional, clean, and affordable. thanks
 
Well, first off do you have health insurance? Secondly, what do you consider affordable? I'm assuming since your looking for a good out of state rehabilitation you have the finances for it. Or am I jumping to conclusions. There's plenty of rehabilitation centers to choose from, but what are you looking for in them besides the broad expectations of clean,professional and affordable? short term (28-90 days) or a long term program (6-18 months). Are you looking more for a sober living/ halfway house ( one that is heavily structured of course) or a tight lockdown rehab. I mean theres literally tons of options. You need to be more specific? Secular or non-secular?
 
just curious, why'd u take so much?

get pulled over, thought it was a decent idea?

attempted suicide?

or tolerance?

other?

also, just a guess, i bet they're are tons of rx drug rehab facilities in florida
 
in NC, you can get in touch with Daymark. they are free. they can clean you up, get you in 5, 30, or 60 day treatment programs. they can also help with mental illness, if you have any. it's a good group. they take care of you even though they're state-run and basically there to serve people without insurance.

PLUS you're not stuck with that big bill after it all.
 
why do you think that a treatment center is gonna cure you of your addiction?

wanting to detox is one thing but people act like you can just go to rehab and everything is ok. Its a decision that deserves a lot more thought than just "well, somethin bad related to my drug use happened, i guess i need to go to rehab."

rehab dont do nothing for you. they just give you the environment to do the work on yourself. If you aint ready to do it (and if you think that going to rehab is a solution instead of the very first tiny baby step towards getting clean, then you prolly aint), seriously, dont waste your damn money, or your folks or whoevers money if you lucky enough to have the type of family that can afford that type shit.

I aint sayin like rehab is some kind of bad negative thing or tryna discourage you or nothin. just pointin out that from your post it really sounds like you basically said, well ok i OD'd, so i guess now the next step is rehab, right? thats wat people do after they OD right? Ok, rehab it is.

no disrespect meant and if that aint your situation i apologize thats just how its comin off in your OP. i hate to see people with the wrong idea about doin a program. like it will save them, cure them, make them better, or anything like that and not realizing that all the rehab in the world aint gonna do shit if you aint truly ready to do it inside yourself.

the funny thing about that is that once you get that true, deep, genuine urge and NEED to get clean and are really bout it, its very possible to do it on your own without no rehab at all.

when i didnt want to get clean, rehab didnt do shit-all for me. I copped on the way home. When i did want to get clean, I didnt need no rehab, cuz i wanted it bad enough for myself that I made it happen.

Just somethin to think about.
 
lacey k said:
why do you think that a treatment center is gonna cure you of your addiction?

wanting to detox is one thing but people act like you can just go to rehab and everything is ok. Its a decision that deserves a lot more thought than just "well, somethin bad related to my drug use happened, i guess i need to go to rehab."

rehab dont do nothing for you. they just give you the environment to do the work on yourself. If you aint ready to do it (and if you think that going to rehab is a solution instead of the very first tiny baby step towards getting clean, then you prolly aint), seriously, dont waste your damn money, or your folks or whoevers money if you lucky enough to have the type of family that can afford that type shit.

I aint sayin like rehab is some kind of bad negative thing or tryna discourage you or nothin. just pointin out that from your post it really sounds like you basically said, well ok i OD'd, so i guess now the next step is rehab, right? thats wat people do after they OD right? Ok, rehab it is.

no disrespect meant and if that aint your situation i apologize thats just how its comin off in your OP. i hate to see people with the wrong idea about doin a program. like it will save them, cure them, make them better, or anything like that and not realizing that all the rehab in the world aint gonna do shit if you aint truly ready to do it inside yourself.

the funny thing about that is that once you get that true, deep, genuine urge and NEED to get clean and are really bout it, its very possible to do it on your own without no rehab at all.

when i didnt want to get clean, rehab didnt do shit-all for me. I copped on the way home. When i did want to get clean, I didnt need no rehab, cuz i wanted it bad enough for myself that I made it happen.

Just somethin to think about.
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QFT the first time I went to rehab I thought they would cure me in reality it made me 10 times worse.
 
i have detoxed from oxy and roxi twice on my own. the detoxes were 3 years apart. they were the most difficult and painful things i have ever experienced. the problem is that i always relapse. the medications that i recently overdosed on were prescribed. the hospital ruled it as an attempted suicide. i'm not really sure what i was thinking. i have had a lot of tough things going on in my life and i may have not wanted to deal with them. after leaving the hospital, i felt that god had given me a second chance and that i needed to quit abusing drugs. i started using when i was 15 and i'm 23 now. i haven't made much progress in my life and i feel like if i quit using the drugs i will have a better chance of being successful. i cannot afford (financially, mentally or physically) to keep using drugs. i do have insurance and i have looked into several treatment centers. i definitely understand that i'm not going to stop using drugs until i'm ready. i honestly want to quit or else i would waste time and money on treatment. my dad told me that i was going to a treatment center in fort lauderdale, florida. i don't think rehab cures addiction but it may help address the core causes of my addictive behavior. i use drugs to numb pain and emotions that are brought up by my childhood and by my recent difficulties. my real addiction is lying, cheating and stealing. drugs are just part of my life. i want to move forward but i feel that they hold me back.
 
Good luck yo and i honestly wish that to you. Im just saying that other than to detox you, rehab can be a shitty place to learn how to live life again without drugs, and especially if its a 12 step program it can do more harm than good. It can make it more difficult to recover with the kind of shit that they drill into your head in there. I learned alot more about how to live again on my own time in real life and had way more success that way than i ever did with rehab.

Maybe for you this is the right choice and I hope that it works out for you. Dont take the shit i said as tryna discourage you in any way, that aint the idea, just pointing out that alot of people got no idea wat they gettin into and dont realize how these programs really work. most rehabs are just a scam that these places run to get paid, so dont get your hopes up--basically wat im telling you is beware, becuz the person who you may look up to as the guide to lead you out of hell might very well be just a under-educated, closed minded 'counselor' who aint never gonna see you again after you leave anyways and dont really give much of a shit other than the small shit that they required to in order to keep their job. Just dont put all your faith in them that they will take this burden off you, you got the power to do this inside of yourself .

Use the rehab experience as a support for the shit you already know in your heart and youll be OK. Just dont put too much weight on the shit they say or invest too much faith into it, thats all, you the one who is in charge in the end so just make sure you dont short change yourself--remember that you the one whose holdin the key to gettin this shit right, not a 'higher power' or a program or who the fuck ever--dont let nobody take away YOUR power to get your life straight again, that shit is on you yo. and aint nothing wrong with a higher power, i believe in god myself, but man, god helps those who help themselves. peace, and good luck.
 
lacey k said:
Good luck yo and i honestly wish that to you. Im just saying that other than to detox you, rehab can be a shitty place to learn how to live life again without drugs, and especially if its a 12 step program it can do more harm than good. It can make it more difficult to recover with the kind of shit that they drill into your head in there. I learned alot more about how to live again on my own time in real life and had way more success that way than i ever did with rehab.

Maybe for you this is the right choice and I hope that it works out for you. Dont take the shit i said as tryna discourage you in any way, that aint the idea, just pointing out that alot of people got no idea wat they gettin into and dont realize how these programs really work. most rehabs are just a scam that these places run to get paid, so dont get your hopes up--basically wat im telling you is beware, becuz the person who you may look up to as the guide to lead you out of hell might very well be just a under-educated, closed minded 'counselor' who aint never gonna see you again after you leave anyways and dont really give much of a shit other than the small shit that they required to in order to keep their job. Just dont put all your faith in them that they will take this burden off you, you got the power to do this inside of yourself .

Use the rehab experience as a support for the shit you already know in your heart and youll be OK. Just dont put too much weight on the shit they say or invest too much faith into it, thats all, you the one who is in charge in the end so just make sure you dont short change yourself--remember that you the one whose holdin the key to gettin this shit right, not a 'higher power' or a program or who the fuck ever--dont let nobody take away YOUR power to get your life straight again, that shit is on you yo. and aint nothing wrong with a higher power, i believe in god myself, but man, god helps those who help themselves. peace, and good luck.
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thank you for your response. i definitely think you have valid points. i agree with many things that you said. i know i have to help myself and that's what i want to do. im just hoping that the counselors will be able to lead me in the right direction and give me the tools to improve my life.
 
IMHO better to rely on well adjusted friends and family for support . read every 'self help' thing that has good reviews and just go cold turkey if you have hit bottom .

my ex's 'best friend' was slanging cocaine while holding down a state job in drug and alc. counseling . soured me to that business eternally . recovery racket is big, big business and they pay jack spit to the social worker types that work in their system.
 
hobhead said:
IMHO better to rely on well adjusted friends and family for support . read every 'self help' thing that has good reviews and just go cold turkey if you have hit bottom .

my ex's 'best friend' was slanging cocaine while holding down a state job in drug and alc. counseling . soured me to that business eternally . recovery racket is big, big business and they pay jack spit to the social worker types that work in their system.
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Thats so true me and one of my good friends have a plan to open a half way house after she gets her degree in social work.The regulations are really lose in our state and the profit margins are quite high.
 
my ex's 'best friend' was slanging cocaine while holding down a state job in drug and alc. counseling . soured me to that business eternally . recovery racket is big, big business and they pay jack spit to the social worker types that work in their system.
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Back in 98-2002 I kicked on my own. Was doing the 12 step thing. I kicked a prety good dope habit with 3 days of methadone and the some clonidine/ benzos to help with sleep- I think that is the prefered methode for opiates or short term bupe- anything longer and well after my relapse I had intended to do the short term 6 month taper- It turned to a 6 year taper, but MMT (once I stabalized on 135 mg) helped me live a life free of coping dope and was able to finish school, get another degree, and change careers. But it took 6 years to taper slowly off that dose with a 2 year run that set me behind. I was at step 6 ( only come 1 x week @ the clinic) and tested positive- usually had a bunch of urine i saved in my fridge that I would take with me but I had run out- anyway they put me on probation and wasn't allowed to advance to step 13. Then they added testing for benzos so I tested positive and had to get a Rx- got me a benzo habit and I found out that I trully had panic disorder and needed them- but trying to withdraw is a bitch. Now if you have kicked and passed the withdrawl...

I know Lacey is not big on the 12 step thing but I am a great admirer of her posts on this board and her advice is solid- she has had to overcome crazy odds from what I have read through the years.

To quote her,
=Lacey you the one who is in charge in the end so just make sure you dont short change yourself--remember that you the one whose holdin the key to gettin this shit right, not a 'higher power' or a program or who the fuck ever--dont let nobody take away YOUR power to get your life straight again, that shit is on you yo. and aint nothing wrong with a higher power, i believe in god myself, but man, god helps those who help themselves. peace, and good luck.
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I have seen through the years those who suceded and those who don't do as well. The ones that are clean and happy are those that go to meetings- a mix of young peoples meetings with old timers that don't tell you what to do but willing to talk and most importantly listen to you. Otherwise its prety simple. I stay away from people say you have to do this or that or else. Whatever you decide the point is you gotta really want it. Most important thing is young peoples meetings have lots of people who might share common interests with and who you can potentially hang with.

The secret to staying clean is really wanting it, not acting scandoulously by cleaning house (which is the idea of the steps), and most importantly those how are happy and stay clean in the 12 step world are thoose who help other struggling addicts- this is ultimate idea. But that doesn't mean that 12 steps is the only way- I have met alot of people, the meetings in CA i'll confess are full of "eye" candy and I'm hoorible example of working the program. I know when I relapsed it was because I got too involved in the social aspects and forgot about the suffering addict. But they idea is that you can come and go to meetings as you please and do what works for you.

Alot of people I've seen through BL are able to kick, stay happy, and productive without needing to go to meetings. I'm currently staying clean but I'm taking certain meds as percibed- some in that world might disagree so I keep my medical history to myself.

But the rehab- never worked for me- I have gone to a few where the counselors would get off on controlling others and shoving recovery down your throat. I believe that some of the biggest culprits in drug prohibition are the treatment industrial complex represented by their lobyists in congress- forcing treatment on the massess. If you do need something formal why not go to a 12 step group which i free rather than spending lots of money on a rehab were your life is tightly controlled and then you got to deal with the shock of living in the world without drugs. 12 steps are free and if you slip you can just keep comming back. If it aint your thing you just stop going. Rehabs tend to force you to go and get cards signed for a while. But they have worked for some people. Ultimately you gotta really want to quit. Keep us posted and consider visiting the dark side forum were you can get some practical advise.
 
i see where y'all are coming from with the 12 step thing and the counselors. My dad is an alcoholic who hasn't had a drink in 16 years. It took a divorce, legal problems and losing custody of his children for him to change. it takes a lot of people a long time to change their lives.

rehab and treatment centers are big business. while i was looking them up, i noticed how many there are, especially in Florida and California. it seems like it is a lucrative business for many people. Large amounts of money are involved and simple programs are offered. I do however feel that some of them can and will help people. its just hard to find the right one.

I honestly think that i would be better off getting my meds changed, going to meetings, simplifying my life and meeting with a good counselor at least once a week. Even though i overdosed, i don't feel like i have hit bottom yet. I was overwhelmed with losing communication and the support of my father, my moms medical problems, my grandmothers cancer coming back, legal trouble, financial difficulties and stress caused by moving to a new city to attend my 4th college.

i have detoxed and gone through withdrawals on my own multiple times. when i quit everything for a year, it was because i wanted to. I found other ways to make myself feel better (exercise and intense construction work in south Georgia heat). a good work schedule, exercising and socializing are great ways to overcome addiction.

i do always seem to relapse. I have been medically diagnosed with general and social anxiety, insomnia, and back pain caused by a damaged spine. Each of these things usually requires addictive medications. my recent overdose caused my parents to become involved forcing me to get me help. i know i have an addiction problem. At least i'm not in denial.

most of my problems stem from emotional problems caused by my family during childhood and dishonest relationships with my girlfriends. I have always bottled up my emotions and numbed myself with drugs. If i talk to a professional and get to the root of my problems then that will be the most effective route.

I appreciate all of the advice. I'm sorry for the members who have PM'ed me and i haven't been able to respond due to my greenlighter status. I have read the messages though. thanks to everyone who has provided input.
 
I don't have specific recommendations of rehabs but I've been to nice private hospitals and I've been to gutter free rehabs. Honestly I enjoyed the free semi-sleezy rehab over the nice private one.

I'd rather be around super fucked up type people than in some snobby 'I'm doin rehab cuz I hafta' type people. I met cool people at both and not everyone fits the stereotypes but being around homeless/down and out people gave me a better idea of where my addiction was taking me.

Don't listen to friend's hype. I heard mad people bashing the free rehab in my old town and when I finally made my way there I loved it. Well maybe not loved it but it was definitely a good experience.

Basically if you're going to rehab for the right reasons, it doesn't matter where you go. So why not go to the free/cheaper one? They're going to offer nearly the same opportunities at either place. Just my .02
 
i maintain that going it under one's own steam is the way to go .
i have been to court mandated drug/alc counseling more than once and there are always repeaters

probation and parole mandate it as conditions for release . yet there is a revolving door of recidivism for drug/alc offenders .

in the end one does it on their own . that is unless they are locked down for life and even then it's simply harder and much more costly to score .

the root causes can be emotional, mental or situational and the first two are not really addressed in the recovery racket . they are in the realm of medical practice
 
yeah, i think the common sentiment is that you shouldnt go into treatment until youre completely mentally committed to getting clean.

that said, anybody in columbus, good f'in luck if you're poor.

maryhaven.... state facility... the only one to get into in the county, actually.
it took me 3 months of calling at 8am every morning to see if they had an open bed, and then i finally got in and it was hell. the whole confiscating your cigarettes thing is not cool for a paranoid addict. i smoke a lot when i'm detoxing/wds... maryhaven is not the place for that. scheduled smoking... bleh.
 
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