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The Big and Dandy NBOMe-2C-C (25C-NBOMe) Thread

Delsyd said:
8) how many times have we heard that before?

Dont take descriptions like that too seriously as they usually come from people not experienced with a wide variety of psychedelics.
Ive heard so many 2c's described that same way yet they are all pretty different from each other.
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I agree but this isn't a 2C... This is a 2C that has been turned into its crack form. LOL!

I don't know, I'm curious about it but it intimidates me a bit... especially the 500mcg ego death part...
 
Well I found high dose 2C-C to have euphoria greatly comparable to MDMA... So I don't see it being that far-fetched for the NBOMe but I get your point.
 
Solipsis said:
Is 2-methylanisole a breakdown byproduct of the NBOMe phenethylamines and if so, is this no cause for concern?
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That is not possible, since the route of metabolism of amines is always oxidative, not reductive. The product of metabolism of NBOMe's is undoubtedly 2-methoxybenzoic acid, which is not toxic, especially at the dosage levels of these compounds.
 
MagickalKat777 said:
Well I found high dose 2C-C to have euphoria greatly comparable to MDMA...
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MDMA is far more than just euphoria.
IME it is the love drug. It is great for empathy, connecting with a partner and just so many things other than "oh man, i feel so good, im rolling bawlz."

Ive had many drugs that are euphoric. In fact mephedrone is consistantly more euphoric in that "rolling bawlz" sense. LSD and DMT have made me feel better than any and all drugs combined. Buts thats not the point.
MDMA has something that none of those drugs do.

And i still feel that it wont be found in nbome-2cc, just as it wasnt in 2cb, 2ci, 2cc, m1, mephedrone and countless other things that have been compared to MDMA.
 
a trip comparable to LSD but lighter on the mind
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Lighter on the mind is wrong. It's heavy as shit on the mind. That would probably be my only complaint.

There's a great Nietzsche quote:

He who thinks a great deal is not suited to be a party man: he thinks his way through the party and out the other side too soon.
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Last night, it made me hug a random stranger and tell her I loved her. But the headspace on this one is so overflowing with thoughts* that it got in the way of socializing. Shulgin's complaint that 5-MeO-DiPT was "lacking in insight" makes it sound like the precise opposite of 25c-nbome.

*of course that could be partially due to the person who took it and not the drug itself.
 
Gonna take this one for a test drive in the near future.

After I do some oral trial runs I might attempt to IV it (beginning with 1/10th of prefered dose and working my way up).
 
Dosed 750 mcg of this intranasally last night.

0:00-0:30: Noticeable mood lift at around 20 min in with a slight numbing/warming sensation in the neck.

0:30:-1:30: Mood lift increases some along with a noticeable change in the sharpness and a heavy brightening of colors.

1:30-2:30: At some point shortly after the 2 hour mark it kicks in fully. +3 visuals with a heavy melting aspect. Had some house music on in the background and noticed it sounded like extremely warped tape.

2:30-6:30: Intensity continues to increase and at one point I was stuck in what I can only describe as a timewarp for about an hour, which seemed a lot longer. This ''timewarp'' period was the darkest portion of the trip (this one is really heavy on the mind; lots of chatter) which I managed to pull out of. Pitch was really low and even faster songs went extremely slow. Visuals were really intense.

6:30-10:00: Effects taper off slowly and are a dull roar at around the 10:00 point. I felt really good and still had some stimulation present, so I watched ''Leaves Of Grass'' and then hit the sack.

Overall I really enjoyed it. The most predominent OEV colors for me were a really bright strange neon green, and a neon pink that would go orange randomly.
 
Delsyd said:
MDMA is far more than just euphoria.
IME it is the love drug. It is great for empathy, connecting with a partner and just so many things other than "oh man, i feel so good, im rolling bawlz."
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This is where we disagree. MDMA is MDA's retarded cousin in my mind. MDA is the true love drug. And I can actually make love when I take MDA versus MDMA.

I get your point though. The only things that have come close to the loveyness of MDXX for me is M1+MBDB, 5-Me-MDA, and I had those lovey feelings on mescaline too.
 
MagickalKat777 said:
MDMA is MDA's retarded cousin in my mind.
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Agreed! I've been lucky enough to get pure MDA =D from a good friend and it changed my life FOREVER... MDMA is still great (in it's own way) but still no cigar! :p The only experiences that has come remotely close to MDA is psilocybin azurenscens and DMT and LSD.

As for the 25c... I will be trying soon ;) and will happily report my experience.
 
MagickalKat777 said:
This is where we disagree. MDMA is MDA's retarded cousin in my mind. MDA is the true love drug. And I can actually make love when I take MDA versus MDMA.
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I also agree, since someone just bumped this today :D

I have never gotten as much loved up feeling on MDMA, as I have on any psych. 2ci was about equal to MDMA for me. But everything else is much more so. And I have connects to extremely pure MDMA, and have done large amounts before.

Pure MDA is the true love drug. It gives me almost the same if not more lovey-dovey than psychs, but without the extreme mind-fuck. And the roll per mg, compared to MDMA is crazy, I roll much much harder.

However I will note I did MDA for 3 days straight, and I wanted to die after the 3rd day, my body wanted to kill me!

Ill be trying 25c-nbome soon at 300ug, Ill report on it when it happens!
I want to examine negative side effects at higher doses to explore the dose-sensitivity.
 
sackynut said:
I also agree, since someone just bumped this today :D

I have never gotten as much loved up feeling on MDMA, as I have on any psych. 2ci was about equal to MDMA for me. But everything else is much more so. And I have connects to extremely pure MDMA, and have done large amounts before.

Pure MDA is the true love drug. It gives me almost the same if not more lovey-dovey than psychs, but without the extreme mind-fuck. And the roll per mg, compared to MDMA is crazy, I roll much much harder.

However I will note I did MDA for 3 days straight, and I wanted to die after the 3rd day, my body wanted to kill me!

Ill be trying 25c-nbome soon at 300ug, Ill report on it when it happens!
I want to examine negative side effects at higher doses to explore the dose-sensitivity.
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So I'm wondering how 5-methyl-mda will compare to MDA, since I don't know where to find pure MDA... Hell around here it's hard to get a non-pipe!
 
I generally prefer MDA to MDMA myself, but i enjoy them both. Though with the latter its very easy for me to turn into a sweaty gurning mess that wants to make out with complete strangers.

Back on topic, any details as to sub-lingual dosing methods? May be taking the plunge with this one soon & wanna make sure i get it into my bloodstream in the most efficient manner
 
Rumors are that dissolving it in strong alcohol increases both the solubility and the adsorbtion rate. Just choose the brand with a good taste, not something like vodka.

One should not just hold it under the tongue, that will only cause salivation that will slow it down, but use the tongue to spread it all over the surface of the epitelium to further increase the rate of adsorbtion.
 
Was tempted to get 25D since there is no 25C anymore but I think I'd rather wait on it since this sounds much more like what I would appreciate, and more potent too.

Thanks for the ROA advice Erny! Say how come you have 63 posts, I am positive I've seen more of yours in my lifetime... bringing obscure though highly interesting and novel research info from russia (wasnt it?) <3
 
Erny said:
Rumors are that dissolving it in strong alcohol increases both the solubility and the adsorbtion rate. Just choose the brand with a good taste, not something like vodka.

One should not just hold it under the tongue, that will only cause salivation that will slow it down, but use the tongue to spread it all over the surface of the epitelium to further increase the rate of adsorbtion.
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thanks a bunch man, that's exactly what i was worried about. I've always had issues with excess salivation with sublingual ROA.

Approximately how long have you guys waited before swallowing/removing blotter etc?
 
I do not use this method of administration myself, my lowered sensitivity and milligram doses allow me to do well with the insufflation. It shoud be 15 to 30 minutes.
 
Any idea on the longevity of this compound when in alcohol and/or water solution?

Asking because there are some reports of vastly diminished effects upon later dosing as confirmed by other first time users.

I would bet the issue was the fickle nature of sublingual administration, but it could be due to degradation.
 
According to another's post that I read (and trust (MattPsy??)), there are no clear points of structural instability, so we wouldn't expect much degradation in solution, a la the 2Cs. It is likely that the ridiculously high binding affinity and efficacy at 5ht2a causes rapid accrual of tolerance, even fairly early into the experience.

Also...why do we even care about potency? Even the NBOMe-DOXs appear plenty potent enough to be just dandy (though less potent than the 'parent compounds', by an order of magnitude according to some reports).

ebola
 
There are reports of strong potentiation (2-4x) using water solutions of micelle generating surfacants like lecithin and polysorbate and sublingual/rectal administration. Concentrations need not be high, 0.5-1% solutions which are then agitated seem to be enough. Activity of 25C-NBOMe is reported to be very strong at around 100mcg for a +++ with this method.
 
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