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uh its grape ape....pretty solid indica dominant i believe.


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this is a sativa
 
Arobskittle said:
uh its grape ape....pretty solid indica dominant i believe.


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this is a sativa
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The grape ape looks like a cross of 50/50 indica/sativa.

The second pic you posted has nothing to do with genetics. That's a sign of overfertilising or your timers have messed up, that girl is trying to re-veg!
 
So I received my Secret Jardin today, my Hood w/1kw Switchable ballast, a my 1kw MH Bulb (going to upgrade bulb after first harvest) as well as the 1000kw HPS Bulb, I ordered seeds from two different websites, 1 LCD seed, 1 Ice Cream seed, as well as 20 Super Silver Haze, 20 himalayin gold, and 20 white widow... I want to do 1 Ice Cream, 1 LCD, and then 5 Super Silver Haze, and 5 himalayin gold. I am doing all soil organtic and I am going to put them all on the same 18/6...

is 24h light during vege a good thing?

is it true that the longer a plant can vege then the more the plant with produce?

PM me with tips on my plan please
 
True2Love said:
So I received my Secret Jardin today, my Hood w/1kw Switchable ballast, a my 1kw MH Bulb (going to upgrade bulb after first harvest) as well as the 1000kw HPS Bulb, I ordered seeds from two different websites, 1 LCD seed, 1 Ice Cream seed, as well as 20 Super Silver Haze, 20 himalayin gold, and 20 white widow... I want to do 1 Ice Cream, 1 LCD, and then 5 Super Silver Haze, and 5 himalayin gold. I am doing all soil organtic and I am going to put them all on the same 18/6...

is 24h light during vege a good thing?

is it true that the longer a plant can vege then the more the plant with produce?

PM me with tips on my plan please
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24/0 is only recommended when using fluroescant lighting. Stick to 18/6with your HID's.

And yes the longer a plant gets to veg the bigger the yeild will be.
 
yo wise thats an old pic. I did have a light leak. but it is a sativa w/ major heat stress. ill show you a up to date photo in a min

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and here is a clone of it flowering properly the leaf serration is different than the grape ape.

And it grows to be much lankier, definitely more sativa dominance than my grape ape has.

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This is my definition of sativa =D The smoke actually had more body effect then a rushy effect that you'd expect from a sativa.

These are shots from a Haze X Skunk from almost a year ago now. Atm ive got small little sprout going thats pushing its 4th node looking nice. Will try for some pics soon.

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Late veg shot.
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1-2 weeks flowering.
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She was almost pure haze %)
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Around 9 weeks I think.
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I've done 18/6 and I've done 24/0..I guess it's arguable that plants need a resting time..I never noticed any effects from doing 24 hrs of veg..what I do know is your plants will veg faster on a full 24 hour cycle. Look at this way, every 4 days, you lose one full day of veg when u do 18/6..but either way does work.
 
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what I do know is your plants will veg faster on a full 24 hour cycle.
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Complete opposite of what I've found. I use a 24 cycle to reduce growth actually, great way to keep clones in a vegetative stage till the next flowering cycle without them outgrowing the fluoro's.
 
Wow..that's crazy, cause I have clones going 24/7 under floro's now and they are growing into the lights and above the fixture..im getting work done today and tonight to get everything upsized and under a MH. If you veg 24 hrs a day, they dont stop growing, there is no rest period..how can they slow down? You and I seem to get complete opposite results I guess. I've done 18/6 plenty of times and it works great, im just sayin' veggin 24/0 you can cut down on your veg time and get to 12/12 faster.
 
Purple Kush-cut at 64 days, usually they are finished at 58-60, but I gave em extra time :)

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I envy thee! :D Would love to grow a purple kush sometime, stuff looks great.

But yeah, I guess we do have differing results when it comes to those 24 cycles. What AE said I've been taught as well, without a dark period they don't grow as vigorously as with one, the results I've been getting supported the hypothesis.
 
^ Oldtimer1 (you heard of him Blowmonkey? Something tells me you must have. If you have you'll know why I'm mentioning him) has found through trials of many plants grown SOG style that 20/4 actually yields more than the generally accepted 18/6 but that going above 20/4 gives you ever diminishing yields.
 
^^weird I have never heard that if u veg for 24/0 that you get a poorer yield.... the cycle that I just finished I vegged for 24/0 and this is my nicest and from what I can tell, the highest yielding as well..I won't know til everything is down, dried, and cured. I'm not against 18/6 at all, I was thinking of going back to that, but if AE is suggesting that 20/4 works better, then ill go with that.
 
@AE, should i do 20/4 with my 1kw?? for vege?

also, what do you think of my seed selection?

ice cream, super silver haze, LSD, Himalayan Gold, and White Widow.

as i said earlier I was gonna do one ice cream, one LSD, and 5 silver haze, and 5 Himalayan Gold..

what do you think?
 
^ well you have to decide who's advice you trust. In my opinion, yes you would get a higher yield and it is worth it. However, you'll spend more on the extra two hours of electricity (which isn't that much to be honest).

I do it myself and think it works.

edit: About vegging for 24 hours. I don't think it necessarilly will reduce your yield by much. I just don't think that for what you spend on electricity you get as much of a return as you'd expect, since the plants need a period of recovery during the lights off period. I think for maximum return on your investment in running costs, 20 hours is optimum.

Having said that, almost everyone uses 18/6 and because of convention more than anything else will tell you do this. I think the only way to know for sure in your own mind is to do a couple of crops testing 18/6, 20/4 and even 24/0. If you do this, you need to keep everything the same, including nutrients, additives, dosages and so on, since changing multiple factors at once will only complicate your end result.

Oh, and as for your seeds, I can only really comment on the White Widow as I've tried this and liked it a lot. Are they feminized seeds? If so, are you aware of the benefits of regular seeds and the possible disadvantages of feminized seeds?
 
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If you bought seeds, start as many as u can of each, don't forget some may turn out to be males. However, what u want to do is establish which ones are the best and which have what you are looking for. So, once everything has vegged and is bushy, take as many clones off of them as u can and label everything..ex, ice cream 1,2, + 3, because they are seeds, each one will be different and show diff gene traits. Now that u have clones of everything and everything is labeled, you now decide what u like the best once u harvest. Hopefully u will have enough of each to hold back a mother or 2 of whatever it is you like the best, now u can start getting up your clone numbers for future crops.
 
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