the official 2010-11 college football thread! ver. Auburn VS Oregon?

[Pander Bear]

the funny thing is that mark richt is exciting and zesty to fans who live under the gray reign of tressel. Glad you wrote that, tlb, because I couldn't be bothered to answer nonsense with sense.

 

[axl blaze]

it only makes sense, Mark Richt is perhaps the perfect anti-theses to Jim Tressel

but if he were in the Big Ten, he would also fail miserably against The Governor, like Big Ten teams do most of the time

 

[Pander Bear]

it only makes sense, Mark Richt is perhaps the perfect anti-theses to Jim Tressel

wouldnt that be dennis rodman or rupaul or something?

 

[TheLoveBandit]

I need to come back an apologize for that last post. I was in a pissy mood, and obviously looking to pick a fight.

However, I stand by my opinion that the SEC is over-rated/loved by the media.

 

[axl blaze]

yeah, but even though this is a down year for the SEC they still have some solid performers week-in and week-out in LSU, Auburn, South Carolina, and Bama

the Big Ten is equally as impressive with tOSU, Wisconsin, Michigan State, and Iowa

the stand-out teams in the Pac-10 are of course Oregon, and then perhaps Stanford and Arizona. but the last two are stretching it

the Big 12 is delivering with Missouri, Nebraska, and Oklahoma

as far as strength of conference I would pick the SEC or Big Ten this year, because they have four teams that appear above-average, while the other conferences do not appear to be as well-rounded

 

[axl blaze]

yeah, but even though this is a down year for the SEC they still have some solid performers week-in and week-out in LSU, Auburn, South Carolina, and Bama

the Big Ten is equally as impressive with tOSU, Wisconsin, Michigan State, and Iowa

the stand-out teams in the Pac-10 are of course Oregon, and then perhaps Stanford and Arizona. but the last two are stretching it

the Big 12 is delivering with Missouri, Nebraska, and Oklahoma

as far as strength of conference I would pick the SEC or Big Ten this year, because they have four teams that appear above-average, while the other conferences do not appear to be as well-rounded

 

[rollEpollE]

Fucking Bama, I swear. That game didn't go like I had hoped. Not even close. I figured with an off week to get our shit together, we would beat the crap out of LSU. Boy was I wrong.
Heart breaking really.

FUCK FUCK FUCK..

And on top of that, my boss, who knows nothing about football and doesn't give a shit about it, comes in wearing an LSU hat this morning. I could have killed him. Bastard.

 

[TheLoveBandit]

Random bits....


Winner this week between USCe and FLA will go to the conference championship, with a shot to get dick stomped by AU or piss everyone off by getting the Sugar Bowl bid. The winner will also be the only SEC East team with a winning conference record All the rest will have 4+ conference losses.

USA Today (Coaches Poll, not used in BCS) has what team from the state of Florida ranked highest? Your choices are FSU, MIA, FLA, USF, and UCF.......UCF #23. In fairness, all the polls show FLA and UCF ranked #22 or higher, and the others not ranked at all. Yeah, power state for Footabll, ain't it?

Only the Zooker could score 65 pts and lose

After 10 weeks, we find SYR is the only BigEasy team that is bowl eligible. And they have how many bowl tie-ins?

After Week 10, the Week 10 ESPN Stats & Info Conference Power Rankings:

[B][U]Conference 	AP Rank 	Computers Rank 	Final Rating 	Final Ranking 	Rt Change[/U][/B]
SEC 		1 		3 		95.5 		1 		1.3
Big Ten 	2 		4 		91.9 		2 		4.4
Pac-10 		3 		2 		89.7 		3 		-0.3
Big 12 		4 		1 		83.9 		4 		-3.2
MWC 		5 		6 		67.8 		5 		-7.8
WAC 		6 		7 		57.1 		6 		3.5
ACC 		7 		5 		37.5 		7 		1.4
Big East 	9 		8 		22.5 		8 		0.2
C-USA 		8 		9 		18.9 		9 		0.2
MAC 		10 		10 		14.7 		10 		0.2
Sun Belt 	11		11 		9.8 		11 		-0.1

with this cool summary, reflecting the Big10+2 vs Punk10 comments above, and my remarks about the BigEasy (bold emphasis by me)

The Big Ten has overtaken the Pac-10 once again for the number two spot in our conference rankings. The Big Ten's top four (Wisconsin, Ohio State, Michigan State and Iowa) all increased their AP vote total and are now all inside the AP top 13.

The Pac-10, on the other hand, only has two schools inside the AP top 17. It does have a small advantage with the computers, but will need one or two of its schools to rise in the human polls to challenge the Big Ten.

For the first time this season, Conference USA has overtaken the Big East in AP voting points. UCF has more AP voting points than the entire Big East Conference, which is interesting as the Knights have recently been rumored as part of the potential Big East expansion. The computers have kept the Big East ahead of Conference USA ... for now.

 

[axl blaze]

yeah TLB that essentially backs up what I said above. however, you actually provide solid scientific, empirical proof. thank for that

also, I didn't think of how hilarious it would be for FLA/USCe to beat Auburn in the SEC Championship Game. hey, you have to be pretty pumped that at least FLA has a shot to win the conference? I know I am, as a Buckeyes fan, after that degrading Wisco loss. thanks Michigan State

 

[Pegasus]

Going into last week, the SEC West had 5 teams ranked, and probably still does (haven't seen the new rankings yet)... That West Division of the SEC had more ranked teams than any other entire conference. The SEC is definitely the strongest conference this year.


*Just looked at rankings:


- No. 2 Auburn
- No. 6 LSU
- No. 12 Alabama
- No. 15 Arkansas
- No. 18 Mississippi State
- No. 22 South Carolina
- No. 24 Florida


Just look at that! 5 teams in the SEC West ranked 18 or higher. Florida (SEC East) also jumped into the top 25 as they deserve after their recent performance...

Bama plays all 6 of the other current SEC Top 25 teams this year... The strength of their schedule in particular is remarkable.

 

[axl blaze]

best trick play ever

any chance it might work in the college level?

 

[axl blaze]

- No. 2 Auburn
- No. 6 LSU
- No. 12 Alabama
- No. 15 Arkansas

for the sake of arguing with you, I would say that the Big Ten could go toe-to-toe with these guys, and perhaps beat them

again, for the sake of hypothetical Big Ten VS SEC arguing... lets take your top 4 and play them out against the Big Ten's top 4

Auburn VS tOSU - maybe some say that tOSU isn't the Big Ten's best team, but I think they are (barring a loss to Iowa in a couple weeks), and they will go to the Rose Bowl again. who do you all think wins this game? it would be entertaining as hell. I'm going to take the Buckeyes because I'm a homer. I wouldn't be shocked if Auburn won

LSU VS Wisco - I'm going to have to take Wisconsin on this one. first off, Wisconsin has made a living in the bowl season in beating SEC teams. although I respect LSU enormously for their defensive prowess, Wisconsin plays football in the true way of the Big Ten. with corn-fed NFL-bound linemen and two pounding RBs

Alabama VS Iowa - would be a great game! hot damn, all this talk actually makes me wish NCAA football took a page out of NCAA basketball and did those ACC VS Big Ten type tourneys. Iowa has a Heisman-caliber QB in Ricky "True American" Stanzi, but I think Bama wins

Arkansas VS Michigan State - Arkansas might have a QB who I think will be an NFL star, but he still makes rookie type mistakes in the clutch. Sparty is my feel good team this year, and I am taking them

so I have 3-1 Big Ten. what's so sexy about these match-ups is that I could see it going the other way, 3-1 SEC easily

thoughts thoughts thoughts

 

[Pegasus]

Hmm... I have SEC 3-1 at least in those games. LSU is the only team I'd see possibly losing, though they could easily win if they keep their game together liike they did vs. Bama.

Come on now, Arkansas can take Sparty!

 

[axl blaze]

it's tough to say. what I can say is that finally the SEC is at a normal college football conference level of talent and operation. it's about time they were knocked off of cloud nine

 

[TheLoveBandit]

Week 11....Boo-Ya

Thu
7:30 PM ET Pittsburgh at Connecticut (+5.5) - PITT rolling to the Big East crown. Yawn.

Fri
9:00 PM ET No. 4 Boise State at Idaho (+34.5) - Friday night game ... screaming "Look at me! Look at me! (I need fan love to get ahead of TCU)...and no matter how big the score, you don't move ahead of TCU.

Sat
12:00 PM ET Miami (FL) at Georgia Tech (+3) - Battle for second in the Coastal Division...actually, with the win, MIA puts itself in position to play VT next for the Coastal crown and a spot in the conference championship (also a game against UNC for MIA). Hurricanes keeping the hope alive...and while I want to see GT pull off the upset, I'm thinking MIA 28 - GT 17.

12:30 PM ET No. 24 Kansas State at No. 17 Missouri (-13) - Top 25 matchup, only non-SEC one this week. Line looks about right to me, I'll go KSU 10 - MIZZ 24.

2:30 PM ET No. 14 Utah at Notre Dame (+5.5) - Mainly here because I still pull for the ND coach, but I loathe the team. Time for a beatdown from the Utes, UT 38 - ND 17

3:30 PM ET Georgia at No. 2 Auburn (-8) - the line keeps moving, and at times taken off the boards in Vegas due to questions about Cam Newton. With Newton, UGA 13 - AU 35, without Newton, UGA 17 - AU 24.

3:30 PM ET Penn State at No. 9 Ohio State (-18) - Feels like old timers day at the ball field, genial and polite, handshakes, old style Big10+2 game where PSU gets left behind mid 2nd quarter and Tressel does his best not to make it embarassing. PSU 10 - tOSU 24

3:30 PM ET Texas Tech at No. 16 Oklahoma (-14.5) - Is OU climbing back into things, or will they stub their toe once more? TT 14 - OU 35

3:30 PM ET No. 20 Virginia Tech at North Carolina (+3.5) - Hrm....maybe my upset of the weekend....or not. Again, pivotal game in determining who from the Coastal division gets into the ACC CG. VT 21 - UNC 18.

3:30 PM ET Syracuse at Rutgers (+3) - SYR is fighting for the BigEasy crown, and will have no issues with lowly RUT. SYR 24 - RUT 10.

7:00 PM ET No. 25 Texas A&M at Baylor (+3) - Ah....bouncing in and out of the Top25. Who is ranked next week? ATM 13 - BAY 10.

7:15 PM ET No. 19 Mississippi State at No. 12 Alabama (-13) - Top 25 matchup v2 (first of two for SEC). Actually, this may be a bit more interesting, since AL isn't the same team from last year (in a bad way) and MSU isn't either (in a much improved way). Given the game is in Tuscaloosa, I'll go MSU 14 - AL 27.

7:15 PM ET No. 23 South Carolina at No. 22 Florida (-6.5) - Top 25 matchup v3 (second SEC). This one is for the East Division crown and a ticket to get your ass kicked in ATL. Will USCe crumble as they've done every year, or is THIS finally the year for the 'ol ball coach? I can say Meyer is getting the team and fanbase heavily stirred up with the importance of winning this game, and while I believe USCe is much better than years past and have a decent chance (they won't implode, IMO), FLA is on the right track and will hit this game with the right energy and focus. USCe 24 - FLA 38.

7:30 PM ET No. 1 Oregon at California (+19.5) - I'm still pulling for your Bears, LapDawg, but ORE is too much. ORE 42 - CAL 20.

7:30 PM ET No. 6 Stanford at Arizona State (+5) - ASU wants to matter, but they can't when it comes to STAN. STAN 28 - ASU 6.

8:00 PM ET No. 10 Oklahoma State at Texas (+5.5) - Woe is the Longhorns, will they lose to both Oklahoma teams? Will they lose a fourth home game this season? Excuse me, a FIFTH home game this season? Yes. The South Division leader will kick the ass of the South Division cellar dweller, and hard - for years of losses. Kick 'em when their down, cowboys (not that I have spite for TX, honestly). OSU 21 - TX 10. With the loss, TX has to beat FAU (highly probable) and ATM (possible) to be bowl eligible.

8:00 PM ET USC at No. 18 Arizona (-4) - I hate Lane. USCw 10 - AZ 17.

 

[hair-O'winn]

don't get me started oops too late, now you're in trouble. be prepare for a duck-rant

TCU would whoop Oregon

wow, you're retarded man...

the Oregon cheerleaders would fuck up TCU, let alone DT and LMJ.

Have you even seen an Oregon game *THIS* year? (we're not talking about last year.. the pac-10 defending champion Ducks are about 5x better with DT than we were with "Ole Missoli")
well, you will see one soon. we'll be in YOUR BACKYARD in two days. talk to me saturday night after the golden-showers get bitch-slapped at home by the best team in the country.. i wonder how many points DT and LMJ will pound into your ass before you people realize.



the only argument all you fucking duck-haters can spew out of your know-nothing mouths are the bullshit "SoS" argument.. you know how tired everyone on the west coast is of hearing that bullshit?
try playing USC at the memorial coliseum every other year... or UW in Husky Stadium... 'Zona either at home OR on the road, stanford? oregon state? oh well, hopefully that argument will finally die when Oregon demolishes Camburglar Newton and his team of no-defense, 3rd string tackle-dummies in the NC... assuming they don't get their tiger-striped asses handed to them by the Tide. (this is the only time you'll EVER see me rooting for 'Bama, ever! go tide!) In which case, we may get to live your little bullshit fantasy dream-world where TCU has a slight chance in hell of "whooping" a team that so far hasn't scored less than 42 points in a single game and happens to be 1st overall in ppg, 5th overall in rush ypg, and 13th in points allowed... but oh yeah, you claim that the pac-10 aint shit, so we just run up points on all of our second-rate opponents, right? and yet you're talking up a bullshit Mtn West team with a schedule that makes the Pac-10 look like the NFL?

you hate on the pac-10, and talk up utah? you really HONESTLY think that the Utes are going to be ANY higher than 10th in the Pac-12 next year? honestly?? that's as high as i'll give them, cause i'm sure they can beat Wazzu and Colorado.

Ute fan living in Berkley, CA knows fuckall about football, sorry man.

+1 hahah, niice.



oh yeah!...

...andrew luck for heisman?? he'll need a whole lot (of luck that is!)

bro,

SOPHOMORE Darron Thomas, in his first year as starting qb, is doing better than your JUNIOR QB, (who's been starting what.. 2... 3 years?) and he was supposed to be the third string back-up QB this year!

anyways, Andrew Luck has NO CHANCE... LMJ is your real Heisman contender. it's kinda funny when a player's bad day still nets 140 yds and 3 touchdowns, and a team's bad day still results in 522 yards of offense, 31 first downs, and a 37 point lead. *aaaaand breathe* ahhh

 

[hair-O'winn]

Disclaimer - die hard Florida, and strong SEC in general, fan speaking....



On the overhype of SEC in the media, I would agree with you somewhat. It gets hard for me to believe that we keep 5-7 teams ranked nearly all the time - that smells of either an awesomely unstoppable conference, or the media enjoying the kool-aid. I try to temper it by thinking, all these voters aren't SEC fanboys, they have to be taking a less biased approach....they keep ranking out teams, so we must be better than *I* think.....hell, I look at our OOC against real teams, or at least teams from BCS conferences, and we do okay, but not 'omigod awesomely unstoppable' = SEC is over rated, IMO.

However, you want to argue PAC10 strength, and hold up a USCw-AUB game as your point of argument? Was that the 2002 season (AU went 9-4, USCw 11-2), or the 2003 season (AU 8-5, USCw 12-1)? I'm wondering, because most of us are talking about *this* year....you know, the one where USCw had to hang on against UVA. U-fucking-VA!

But your comment was, "teams like USC,Oregon, and recently Stanford are ... Its not like its a recent thing." Oregon has been a top tier team for awhile, I'm not going to argue that. And USCw has been a top program for most of Pete's time there. Stanford, as you point out, is recent....but it isn't a recent thing? I r confuzed. Still, over the past 5, hell even 10 years, I'd take the SEC over the PAC10 in nearly every matchup top-to-bottom. Hell, the PAC10 can't even sniff the BCS NC's we've been winning for the last 4 yrs straight (oh, that's a recent thing....). Anywho, take your 3rd best PAC10 and put 'em against the 3rd best SEC, in any of those years, tell me honestly who'd win on nuetral ground? Take the 7th best teams from any year....who'd win? Seriously? In all those matchups, I sincerely see the SEC winning 70+%. Not blowouts, but definitely wins. Any way you want to stack it, SEC >>> PAC10 over the past few years.

Les Miles? Freaking nutjob. I just have images of him in a straight jacket getting shock therapy as his off-season personal regimen. The only thing you can count on with him is that he won't make sense....but you can't take him out back an shoot him, to put him out of your misery....yet.




You must be loony. I eat, live, and breath FL football....and until the UGA game UM has been out of touch and it's shown with our coaching and players. He's just now waking up and getting back into things, but to have made that kind of mistake (leaning on assistants who can't do what he can)....no, he's a step or two behind Saban, who I'd put at the top of the coaching pile these past few years.

You said right now. Ok, right now, Saban is sitting with 2 losses and looks on the brink of crying about his team being unfairly compared to last year's squad (cry me a river 8) ). Right now, I'd probably go with ORE's head coach, in that he's got a system that has continued despite graduation and player turnover, that has steadily grown to dominate their conference (USCw gave them an honest fight when USCw was good, Ore ST also plays them well - but that's a serious rivalry), but all in all, I'd want him as my coach over anyone else.

Urban's probably hurt a bit in that he's lost his best OC (Dan Mullen to head coach MSU) and his best DC (Charlie Strong ot head coach L'ville), and had a lot of other key coaches leave, so transitions in staff tend to hurt a team and reflect on the head coach - maybe I'm being hard on him. But all in all, given a choice of today's head coaches, I'd take Chip Kelly and his staff. Behind him I'd have the likes of Saban, Meyer, and even Mack Brown (something is rotten in TX, but overall, their program has shown the strength and durability of a top program). Note, Tressel is *not* on that list. Sorry, Buckeye fans, I know you may appreciate the solid, top level conference championship program he runs, but even you don't have a lot of warm love for someone so plain, honest, and good....you want someone a little more exciting, dangerous, and perhaps insane - dontchya?

Chip Kelly most definitely is the best head coach in NCAA FB right now. In his first year as head coach, his team took the Conf Championship.. now in only his second year as head-coach, his team is the top-ranked team and a hop skip and a jump away from the national championship. the SEC's day's are numbered, buddy. the ONLY reason that they have always been so good is because of exactly that.. they have ALWAYS been so good. Not anymore. as soon as Oregon wins this national championship this year, the SEC isn't going to have the lock-down on recruiting anymore. EVERYONE'S gonna wanna come to Nike U, with their NC and their top-of-the-line facilities, even IF the SEC teams are paying them to come down south!!! haha, *hint sham newton hint*

go ducks, welcome to your recruiting golden years, welcome to any or all of florida's, texas', alabama's, mississippi's, louisiana's, georgia's, the carolina's, virginia's etc. etc. top-ranked recruits.. oregon has already started pickin em up.
LMJ = Texarkana, TX.
Darron Thomas, Houston, TX.
there are around 15 Soph. and Frosh. players on the oregon roster right now all either from TX, AL, FL, or NC (thanks chip!) and in the recruiting class of 2012 we already have 2 four-star recruits verbally committed to oregon. PLUS, with USCw out of the picture, Oregon has it's pick of the litter in the vast recruiting grounds of California.

 

[Kenickie]

lifted from another football thread i jack around in:

A 14-year-old was found passed out drunk in a port-a-potty before a football game at Duke University, pushing the school to permanently cancel student tailgating late Monday.

The unidentified male, who is the brother of a Duke undergraduate, was rushed to the hospital on the school's campus in Durham, N.C., on Nov. 6, and later recovered.

That was not enough for university administrators, however, who called the drunken partying prior to football games unacceptable. The school's football team is 3-6 this season, a slight improvement after nearly a decade of putrid performances.

In an e-mail to the student body about the incident, Duke vice president of student affairs Larry Moneta called tailgating "increasingly dangerous in every iteration."

He referred to the passed-out individual as "a teenage youth." Two campus sources familiar with the situation told NewsCore the boy was 14 years old.

"Tailgate has become an embarrassment -- it has no connection to our football team," Moneta told The Chronicle, the student newspaper. "Now it has to end. I think the notion that a young teenager could be discovered under these conditions just crosses the line."

Duke has long tried to cull the tradition, which can begin as early as four hours before noon football games. Only of-age students can transport alcohol into the parking lots, though younger students may attend and consume what they do not bring.

http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefoo...dent-tailgating-for-football-110910?gt1=39002

 

[cj]

I dont doubt that Oregon will be good for years to come but there not gonna single handidly end the SECs dominance. The truth is people in the south eat sleep and breath ncaa football 12 months out of the year. Kids grow up dreaming of playing for alabama auburn lsu that is not about to change you would have to live here to understand.

 

[TheLoveBandit]

For those that missed this week's Forde Yard Dash (titled "Grass is greener for Les Miles, LSU" in that it starts with a long look at his grass eating weirdness*


In the middle is a rant against early season polls:

Ban preseason polls
If ever there were a year that provided ammunition for doing away with the preseason Top 25, this would be it. Because it's hard to imagine getting it too much more wrong than the voters did this season. A look at the USA Today top 10 and where they are now:

Alabama (26). Was the prohibitive No. 1 pick. Now: 7-2 and ranked No. 12. You can almost hear the communal Crimson Tide nervous breakdown -- wait, actually you can hear it by tuning into the tragicomedy that is the Paul Finebaum Show.

Ohio State (27). Was No. 2. Now: 8-1 and ranked seventh, but possesses no victories over teams currently in the Top 25. Hard to understand how the Buckeyes are ranked two spots ahead of Stanford.

Florida (28 ). Was No. 3. Now: 6-3 and ranked 24th. And probably overrated.

Texas. Was No. 4. Now: Complete breakdown has left the Longhorns 4-5 and in jeopardy of not going bowling.

...

Virginia Tech (30). Was No. 6. Now: Two losses, one to an FCS opponent, though it is fair to argue that the Hokies lost to Boise State twice. Currently ranked 17th.

...

Oklahoma (32). Was No. 8. Now: 7-2 and ranked 16th. Utterly ordinary road team.

...just sayin'....



*Anyone catch the latest LSUFreek?

I can't make out all the heads (other than Saban being easy). I think the other two are his co-ordinators. The last one is the "reporter" Paul Finebaum (greatly disliked by the readers I've seen for his very biased approach to "reporting" in favor of AL all the time).