My Neck situation and psycidelics. NO ONE KNOWS WHAT IT IS!

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Hello, bare with me for its very hard to explain exactly what the feeling is like.


SHORT VERSION:
i try to have good posture throughout the day, but seem to be restriced in the neck area. it feels soar a lot of the time and something is not allowing me to stand up as straight as a normal person. c6 to t2 area on my spine.
When i take psychedelics it seems to allow me to stand a bit taller and i get this really intense feeling in my neck. it feels like i need to crack my neck, hoever my cyroprator says my spine is normal, so there for i think it is the mucsles. I've not yet found anyone who knows what im talking about or has had the same thing. i've talked to people who get tight in the neck area, but what they describe sounds no where near as intense as my case. Im no pussy either. i believe something is really wrong with my neck musles as i can not find anyone with this same problem. it feels like ima bout to friggin evolve. I dont know if it just feels like theres going to be a big transition or if there is actually going to be one. but it certainly feels like im trying to stand up straighter and something isnt allowing me too. anyone?

more in depth version of my situation:
basically all day everyday I feel strong pull in the back of my neck. I noticed one day (2yrs ago) when i looked in the mirror that i was not standing up completely straight. i turned side was and stood as tall as i could, but i still seen to have a large kink in my neck. and it didnt feel right at all considering i was perked up as much as i could go and there was still a big kink. when i say kink i mean the slight kink that is in everyones spine. mine however is not too slight. i dont think its right. i started stretching a little and layed on the floor with my arms above my head trying to relax and it just didnt feel right. couldnt extend my neck much further than while standing. if felt like it need to crack a BUNCH and then i would be in perfect posture...

for some reason every day after that i would always try and stand completely straight and I was always aware that for whatever reason my posture is restricted because of my neck. when i would smoke weed it intense. feeling like it really needed to be cracked, but it was to large of a transition to be made.
I used to do mushrooms a lot before i discovered this and i never had a problem. But one day i ate some mush with some friends and it got REALLY intense. As i sat there and the mushy kicked in I got an intense feeling that i could have better posture, but it was still restricted a lot. it basically felt like my neck was going to pop in several different places (c7-T2 area) and THEN i would be cured and my posture would be normal. i tried to go with it and relax, but it gor really really intense and it scared the shit out of me so i spent the rest of the time slouched down a bit. I decided that i need to see a chiropractor before anything. I tried to explain it to my friends and they had no idea what i ment and none of them had a simular feeling. I still havent found anybody who has felt this. maybe ppl saying there neck got a little tense for a while, but nothing like what i feel like.

I ended up taking some 2c-b at underground 09. thinking that the 2cb wouldnt have the same effect. WRONG. it was crazy feeling, but i was able to handle it better on the 2c for whatever reason. because i felt more relaxed maybe idk. oh i took some zanaflex as well when i started feeling the neck situation. felt like i was streching while i was just standing in place.
I walked over to the area where i got it looking for the dude i got it from to ask him if he knew why i feel this. i ran into someone else instead who i talked with earlier and he got me some more zanaflex cuz i was uncomfortable as shit. I tried to explain to him what i was feelin and was asking him if hes herd of this happening to someone. he tells me "just chill man, chill its all right" so i took a deep breath and relaxed and when i exhaled my neck starting poping and it felt so good. i still asked dude if hes ever felt it or what the heck he thinks it is. and he had nothing to tell me. i told him how i landed on my head on a trampoline when i was like 8yrs old and maybe my spines screwed up and he was like aww shit idk man maybe. told him thanks and went back to my tent.

that was before i started going to the chiropractor. when i first met my cyro and tryed to tell him what i was feeling he looked at me like a was completely crazy. i tried to explain it and he just didnt know what i ment. so nothing really got done. I though it would because i did have some stuck vetebres and he free those up. after 20 visits a feel great, but it still didnt help my posture situation. there for... it must be something with my neck MUSCLES!!

I took some lsd yesterday at like 12am and walked around a big ass forest perserve with one of my buddies. awesome awesome day. totally righteous. EXCEPT FOR A EXTREME DISCOMFORT IN MY NECK!! so annoying. for like 10hrs i tried to "chill" and fix my neck. i tried to really relax fully and take deep breaths and no matter what i could not make the transition if you will. i dont know what else to call it. feels like im tying to stand up straight, but my neck is restricted. it feels like its my spine thats restricting it, but its not... right? the cyro says my neck is fine "normal" he says. so i has to be the muscles. I tried to explain it to my buddy and he just had no idea what i ment. i tried and tried to put it into words so he could understand, but you know he cant feel it. we talked about it. I thought maybe its my anxiety mixed with really tense, unflexable muscles.
I tried to go with it this time i really did. but it just didnt feel right. felt like i was getting there, but i had a long way to go. too long to be possible it felt.

went home, put the arrivals on for my buddy, took a shot of vodka to help me relax and i told him to watch that shit, ill be in the other room stretching and trying to figure out what the deal is. stretching felt good and i felt like i could feel a deep deep stretch in my neck i've never felt before. i did this for a while and would go on off from stretching to laying down and relaxing to streching and laying down again. no real improvement, but it got more intense after streaching. like i was getting farther, but no where near fixed. my neck was still kinked more than a average person with good posture. i stopped stretching because i kinda knew that IF stretching was the answer it could not me fixed in a day.
now im sitting here sober trying to sit up straight and my neck has this same old soar restricted feeling. going to sleep was tough... i could still feel my neck muscles trying to re posistion or whatever the shit it is. pisses me off.
I went over it with my friend some more and he couldnt help. was askin if it could be a mental thing and i said no theres no way.

srry for the long write up, but this sucks.

I have yet to find someone that knows what is going on. so im here askin you fine people and probably going to talk to my cyro about it come monday.

what do you guys think? tell me anything

By the way i am very unflexable. i cant even touch my toes. my neck musles are also very very tense and notty. I also seem to have anxiety (not dignosed or taking medicine) and take short breaths when im not paying attention to my breathing. weather this has anything to do with the problem I dont know. just wanted to get it out there cuz i forgot to include it.
 
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Wow, that's a rough situation bro - few questions: Have you had any major whiplash ? Car accidents etc ? Concussions/punches to the face ?
- Get a full bloodwork done up and check your magnesium levels , you could be low and muscle cramping / tightness will occur.

- Have you tried sleeping on a neck roll ? Getting some elevation and separate your levels out , brings some blood in there.

- Try to take some glucosomine and msm , these help my knee tremendously and that thing is fucking killed I have a surgery i keep delaying.
 
After consulting with health professionals and doing what they advise you might check into different sorts of body work. Yoga, rolfing, Bowen Technique, myofascial release, shiastsu, are a few off the top of my head. If 2-c family drugs are setting off pain and problems maybe it is time to leave them alone a while.

There are systems with theories about trauma stored in tissue.Lowen's bio-energetics is one of them. Tripping can reactivate issues that need processed. Sometimes we experience issues more somaticly than emotionally or mentally. I'm just sharing conjecture about approaches you might check out if chiro and MDs don't have viable answers. Hope your discomfort is all resolved soon.
 
Wow, that's a rough situation bro - few questions: Have you had any major whiplash ? Car accidents etc ? Concussions/punches to the face ?
- Get a full bloodwork done up and check your magnesium levels , you could be low and muscle cramping / tightness will occur.

- Have you tried sleeping on a neck roll ? Getting some elevation and separate your levels out , brings some blood in there.

- Try to take some glucosomine and msm , these help my knee tremendously and that thing is fucking killed I have a surgery i keep delaying.


no, no whiplash. no concussions recently. its been pry three years since i had a concussion. it was very minor though.. i think. i kept snowboarding after a 15min break thats all i know lol.

no neck roll, but i have a special pillow i use sometimes. got it from the cyro., it helped my vertebras when the cyro first cracked them and got them unstuck. but really didnt do anything for the problem. i still was limited as to how straight i could get my posture.

i will look into the glucosomine and msm. Im alittle short on money. been wanting to get some other vitamins for the pineal glad and some B17. some others as well.

that sucks. whats wrong with your knee? muscle or tendant?
 
After consulting with health professionals and doing what they advise you might check into different sorts of body work. Yoga, rolfing, Bowen Technique, myofascial release, shiastsu, are a few off the top of my head. If 2-c family drugs are setting off pain and problems maybe it is time to leave them alone a while.

There are systems with theories about trauma stored in tissue.Lowen's bio-energetics is one of them. Tripping can reactivate issues that need processed. Sometimes we experience issues more somaticly than emotionally or mentally. I'm just sharing conjecture about approaches you might check out if chiro and MDs don't have viable answers. Hope your discomfort is all resolved soon.


Ok thanks a lot for telling me about those types of body work. i looked into them all a bit and some seem like its gonna help. i hope the treatments not too much lol.
I will look into lowens theory and others. hopefully thats not the case...

i know its hard to say because you cant feel what i feel, but do you think that it might be something as simple as doing a bunch of body work? do you think it just feels like big deal although it really isnt?
it just feels so crazy and its pissing me off that i havent found anybody who has herd of a simular situation...
 
I think I've read a trip report of a situation similar to yours (either on here or Erowid..). Have you posted about this before? If not, I can maybe try and find that trip report for you...
 
I think I've read a trip report of a situation similar to yours (either on here or Erowid..). Have you posted about this before? If not, I can maybe try and find that trip report for you...

yea i posted it in Drug Studies - Where can YOU, as a member, offer yourself for a study?

i didnt get much of a reply. dude might have moved it to the dark side though.
that was like 9 months ago
regardless i didnt get any good answers.
no i havent posted on erowid. thats a good idea though.

do you mind taking a quick look for the tread? that'd be awesome.
this is messed up. i love my psychedelics;)
and i know they are just trying to make it right, but my body is messed up. its not the lsd or the 2c... its got to be me
 
Wow, that's a rough situation bro - few questions: Have you had any major whiplash ? Car accidents etc ? Concussions/punches to the face ?
- Get a full bloodwork done up and check your magnesium levels , you could be low and muscle cramping / tightness will occur.

- Have you tried sleeping on a neck roll ? Getting some elevation and separate your levels out , brings some blood in there.

- Try to take some glucosomine and msm , these help my knee tremendously and that thing is fucking killed I have a surgery i keep delaying.


oh yea. no whip lash, but when i landed on my head on a trampoline it could have messed something up... i remember after that happend i could no longer sleep on my back. i used to always fall asleep on my back and after that i had to sleep on my side. still to this day cant fall asleep on my back... i will literally lay there for hours trying to and then finally get frustrated and turn on my side and knock out. its wierd.


as far as what is wrong... no one can relate? no one knows anyone one that can relate? this has had to have happend to someone before
 
Neck tension is a very common problem with psychs, especialy those who are a little anxious. If you dot think it's tha then maybe you're too sensitive too you're own appearance. I say this based on your wording. "It started one day when I noticed I wasn't standing up straight... Kink in my neck." if you're worried about such things all the time it's definetly going to confront you during trips. You say you have self diagnosed anxiety. This furthur prooves where I'm trying to go with this. Your specialist said physically you are fine, so ultimately it really comes down to you and your oversensitivity to your body. There's nothing wrong with that, people should be sensitive in regards to their physical being. I don't mean to offend in anyway with what I'm saying, and I hope it helps a little bit. Goodluck with it mate, just try and relax a bit more mentally
 
I 2nd over sensitivity to your body. It happened to me when I was tripping frequently. It wasn't with my neck but I'd get some wacked out idea in my head and I'd obsess about it all during the trip and all after it. And whether or not I was actually doing something weird didn't matter because it was sooo in my head that I truly believed it. Like I was hypersensitive about any movement I made and never felt relaxed. I was always up in my head worrying about my distraction of the month.

It doesn't really fit your description but body dysmorphic (sp?) disorder kinda shows how your mind and trick you into believing something that isn't true about your body. And its treated with SSRI's. Just throwing it out there I have no idea if it pertains to you.

I never got diagnosed, I just stopped tripping 2-3x a week/abusing MDMA and over time I slowly have gotten out of my head. I still deal with it but it doesn't bother me anymore and I've realized its kinda silly.

Not saying you fall into the same category as me but eh it can't hurt. I mean if medical professionals say your ok, I'd look towards maybe it being in your head. No offense. Just try not to obsess about it.
 
Thanks guys.

Im sure its real and its not just me over thinking about it while im on drugs. however maybe the problem is not as bad as it feels and i am getting myself worked up.

it has been a could of years and its pissing me off, maybe tahts why in the write up i sound obsessed with the feeling. its not easy to describe either.

I've started stretching and im going to a massage to losen me up. then i guess see iuf it helps after some time. more opinions are very welcome.
thanks everyone
 
^ You could ask a mod to send this thread to Psychedelic Drugs, Healthy Living, or another forum for different points of view. Sorry nothing is really seeming to fit your situation yet.
Not the same as tripping but the nootropic DMAE often gives me a stiff painful neck at higher doses but not at lower. I don't ordinarily have neck problems and have never identified an underlying condition that is set off by the DMAE.
 
^ You could ask a mod to send this thread to Psychedelic Drugs, Healthy Living, or another forum for different points of view. Sorry nothing is really seeming to fit your situation yet.
Not the same as tripping but the nootropic DMAE often gives me a stiff painful neck at higher doses but not at lower. I don't ordinarily have neck problems and have never identified an underlying condition that is set off by the DMAE.

who should i ask about moving it? thanks man
 
I've actually suffered from extreme neck tension also. That it just needs to pop in the upper part but i never can do it? Comes and go..pop my back daily, no medical conditions i guess. But I have fractured a vertebra in my back snowboarding and do have an underdeveloped spine..but, i think i know the feeling.
 
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