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The Fourth Plateau Explained - Interdimensional Rebirth

anarchogen

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DXM - The Fourth Plateau Explained - By whoever can

I think we should discuss and expand on the topic of the fourth plateau, since it hasn't really been done enough or well enough before.
I hope you'll all be opened minded enough to listen and maybe comprehend what I'm talking about.
This is not going to be a scientific explanation or discussion, more a experimentalist view of the experience.

I've been going to college lately and haven't had time to make and serious replies or threads on this site, maybe some of you have noticed this. :P

I think the term Interdimensional Rebirth (or reintegration) sums up the experience pretty good.

Okay so I'll explain how the 4th plateau works in a pratical and maybe comical essence. And so can you :)



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Now most people know the differences between the main 1st,2nd,3rd and 4th plateaus, this won't have much relevance in what I'm saying here since this is only concerning the 4th, so hopefully you already know.

If you don't know the dosage its around and above 1000mg (up too 2500mg) for about anyone trying to achieve the 4th plateau, to some this may seem like a heavy dose.

There is a lot of information on the internet about the 4th plateau but it seems a cluster fuck and disjointed pile of words that hasn't been sorted to make it easily understood to a lucid mind.


But here is my experience explained:

I'll be writing this in present-tense for the most part.

I'll refer to the area where you'll be conscious in as your brain,
Taking your dose of around 1000mg dex is like setting your brain in a slingshot, whilst your coming up your brain is being pulled still stuck in your head through multiple layers of the subdimensions, that are all around us.

This is the "coming up" period, I like to call it the pull-back point.

this is the time between the indigestion and the peak.

So your brain is in the n said slingshot being pulled back through different layers, the amount, composure, consistency and densities of these dimensions will vary every experience and vary through every user.

This is where people have mentioned meeting or just running into "higher"/ alien beings,
this is most likely a inter dimensional being you run into while being pulled through the layers -the trip back and fourth-.

After the pull-back point is the Break-off point where the body and mind are separated, the head like a grocery bag being broken from the brain being pulled back in the sling before it is sent hurling back into the head in a while.
Most people experience "sensory input loss" at this point because of the mental and physical separation.

Now you're at the peak, the rebirth point.
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If you've watched The Matrix you might have a better understanding of this observation, I forget which scene, but the one where he comes back to his real body in the cocoon thing, that's probably the closest thing you'll see to what it feels like, but in reality it would be in really slow motion.


After the rebirth point your brain is being thrown back towards your body, slowly breaking through the layers of sub-dimensions
Like I said its can really vary how much of these you have to make it through before you reach your physical body again. It's a very subjective experience of course.
Some of the dimensions can be very thick or just bizarre, you have to use whatever mental strength you have, since your physical body is not with you at this time. Like I said before you might meet a interdimensional creature who might find you intriguing because you're some foreign entity that doesn't know what the fuck is going on. They usually don't bother you too much.

By the time your getting your brain back into your head you'll be able to grasp physical objects around you, by regaining your sensory input.

The end of the rebirth point leads into the Re-Conscious Point I'll write about this more later.
anyway, maybe I'll draw some pictures to go along with this so it will make more sense.
Since your body is free game while your mind is separated its good to figure out if no one else got inside your head at time. ;P
 
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^yes. but they're both different drugs so you can't really compare them as simply as i just did, i guess.
in my experience dxm is a lot more powerful and longer experience then ketamine.
 
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the only time i hit the 4th plateau it started by feeling like i was chilling in deep space in the presence of some massive entity, then soon after that I felt like I had woken up in a mental institution because of taking the DXM, with no way out, ever.

Soon after that I realized I was just laying in my bed the whole time. I'd never had an out of body experience like that before. Crazy stuff. I really like dxm/shrooms or lsd combinations for OOB trips.
 
On my 1250mg DXM trip i felt like i contacted some alien / or other beings /maybe god? . I felt like i had actually contacted them 1-2 days after the trip. After i was almost sober i got to thinking.... wtf i am crazy??

i still dont understand this.
 
On my 1250mg DXM trip i felt like i contacted some alien / or other beings /maybe god? . I felt like i had actually contacted them 1-2 days after the trip. After i was almost sober i got to thinking.... wtf i am crazy??

i still dont understand this.

You're not crazy, entity contact is not uncommon with psychedelics.

Second, it probably is very important and significant as well. Explore further.
 
seems like a cogent articulation of the process, anarchogen; especially laudable considering the difficulty of downloading into language any aspect of the DXM experience.

however i'm not sure how well the slingshot metaphor works for me... i can see how it could be applied in this case, but i haven't clearly felt a 'stretched tension' one might associate with the pull-back, nor a quick snap of release...

the metaphor is further challenged when the DXM process is contrasted with a DMT come-up, during which i have often felt very distinctly the sensation of being drawn back in a slingshot to the point of maximum stretched tension, and then a snap release launch into the sky...

of course, we may have simply had non-parallel experiences, and the slingshot metaphor works for yours very well indeed...

either way thanks for the mental stimulation, 'tis not often enough that this thanatoptic sacrament is discussed with the respect & intelligence it deserves :) <3
 
I ingested two 00 caps packed tight full of DXM one time. I managed to let my friend in without being aware of this, then I just sat in my bed for several hours. I really have no memory of anything that happened during the experience.
 
seems like a cogent articulation of the process, anarchogen; especially laudable considering the difficulty of downloading into language any aspect of the DXM experience.

however i'm not sure how well the slingshot metaphor works for me... i can see how it could be applied in this case, but i haven't clearly felt a 'stretched tension' one might associate with the pull-back, nor a quick snap of release...

the metaphor is further challenged when the DXM process is contrasted with a DMT come-up, during which i have often felt very distinctly the sensation of being drawn back in a slingshot to the point of maximum stretched tension, and then a snap release launch into the sky...

of course, we may have simply had non-parallel experiences, and the slingshot metaphor works for yours very well indeed...

either way thanks for the mental stimulation, 'tis not often enough that this thanatoptic sacrament is discussed with the respect & intelligence it deserves :) <3

well i was gonna try to make this a thread for people to explain in their words what the 4th plateau felt like, its different for everybody i'm sure. the thread didn't end up like

mine could be one of thousands of explanations.

the only issue i saw with my slingshot theory is that you don't actually experience the "snap" of the release like that of a slingshot, rather they don't experience much of anything near a slingshot, but its the only thing i could put into words at the time.

maybe its rather like a entity grabbing your head pulling you back and letting you find your way back, haha.

either way its a lot like you died and you have to evolve or just get back into a human form and this dimension sometimes.
 
within psychadelics, there are similarities, and once you get to a "++++" experience I think more similarities start to show up between different drugs.
The slingshot comparison may work for you, but one very definite thing that I think is similar across ++++ experiences is the detachment of mind from body, separation from "reality" and then a reconstruction of that reality as you come back to what we know as consciousness.
Whether you see alien entities, god, buddha, jesus, pure energy, etc... is a product of your own pre-conceived ideas about life and consciousness, but the fact that people DO experience these things is enough.

As far as exploring experiences like this further, I believe that once a satisfactory ++++ experience has been had, one can stop doing psychedelics either indefinitely or for a very long period of time (if you need to be reminded of what else is out there). A "satisfactory" ++++ experience being one which you feel has profoundly affected your life and ideas about reality and consciousness. In my experience, good ++++ experiences re-enforce the desire to live in the here and now, restore a child-like wonder to the world, and absolutely quench any remaining desire to explore other states of chemical-induced consciousness before one has completely exhausted their exploration of the consciousness we live in.

nice thread.
 
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