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Rti-126

vecktor said:
RTI-126 has 4 possible isomers, only one is significantly active, add to that, the route to the correct isomer requires a controlled precursor. who wants to take bets on this being a mixture of isomers with perhaps 30-50% at most of the correct one.
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No reason to think you wrong, but why is that a problem? Obviously the potency would be less, but I could accept that, assuming the stuff if worth doing in the first place.
 
The vendor supplying this has told me they spent over a year trying to synth it legally, and they finally got it right.

The price is really high because of this. I'm sure it's probably made in china...

They have labs in china as well as the US
 
^^^ exactly.


vecktor said:
^ is skrill is what is required to produce brown JWH 018 that looks like shit and when it was analysed turned out to be shit?

RTI-126 has 4 possible isomers, only one is significantly active, add to that, the route to the correct isomer requires a controlled precursor. who wants to take bets on this being a mixture of isomers with perhaps 30-50% at most of the correct one. or maybe they have the skrill to only make the active isomer.
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Thank you, made me laugh. And generally, threads like this result in severe depression and anxiety.
 
Well, it's got a tropane and an oxadiazole in the same molecule, both of which are a lot more complicated than something like a JWH. Plus, the obvious precursor is ecgonine, which is tightly controlled.
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The compound seems interesting, whether or not the vendor(s) are legit. It wouldn't be that hard of a compound to make and no it does not require ecgonine. Cocaine analogs have been discussed on a different site and there is a rather trick to getting that oxadiazol or other carbon chains onto tropinone and the rest is not speakable.
 
^ Heh, cute.

I think I'm going to design a study to explore my hypothesis that synth discussion activates the reward pathway in Homo sapiens monkey.
 
DMTime_warp said:
The compound seems interesting, whether or not the vendor(s) are legit. It wouldn't be that hard of a compound to make and no it does not require ecgonine. Cocaine analogs have been discussed on a different site and there is a rather trick to getting that oxadiazol or
other carbon chains onto tropinone and the rest is not speakable.
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I thought for a minute there really was something new and clever here. sadly not, deprotonation of tropinone by chiral lithium amides, followed by electrophillic substitution isn't new, the papers were on rhodium. It is fickle and unreliable on scale, there are a lot of papers by a canadian group on the subject.
I still think without ecognoine it is unlikely that these vendor people have the ability to pull it off to (mostly) get the single isomer in any quantity

Neurosearch and others have already been here and they still use anhydroecognine (made from ecognine made from cocaine) despite the legal complexities.
 
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I saw a "bulk" vendor, that I have come to learn is a scam advertising WF-23 and WF-33 which are supposedly 600 time more potent than cocaine. I had never seen these chemicals advertised so it threw me off that a scam site would "Carry" it. Anyways, Id rather see those guys hit the market. Vendors are probably scrambling to find the next mephedrone right now.
 
sackynut said:
I saw a "bulk" vendor, that I have come to learn is a scam advertising WF-23 and WF-33 which are supposedly 600 time more potent than cocaine. I had never seen these chemicals advertised so it threw me off that a scam site would "Carry" it. Anyways, Id rather see those guys hit the market.
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Why, because my thread about a sarin source was a joke? Those seem more like WMD's than recreational drugs.
 
fryingsquirrel said:
Why, because my thread about a sarin source was a joke? Those seem more like WMD's than recreational drugs.
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actually my post had nothing to do with you or your sarin thread, it was just a comment on the topic.

heres what I was talking about:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2α-(Propanoyl)-3β-(2-(6-methoxynaphthyl))-tropane

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2β-propanoyl-3β-(2-naphthyl)-tropane

so maybe 600x more potent was a little overkill ;), but theyre cocaine analogues apparently a few hundred times as potent, and long lasting (as according to the all mighty wiki ;( )

thats the wiki, obviously i cant post the vendors page regardless of it being a scam or not, and i also highly doubt it was the vendor mentioned in this thread because they dont have rti-126 on their page. sorry if there was any confusion. I meant it would be interesting e to see these two above-mentioned chemicals hit the legit RC market.
 
LOL, I know your post had nothing to do with my sarin post, I just meant if a chemical several hundred times the potency of cocaine hit the market the body count would resemble a nerve gas attack.
 
sackynut said:
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2β-propanoyl-3β-(2-naphthyl)-tropane

so maybe 600x more potent was a little overkill ;), but theyre cocaine analogues apparently a few hundred times as potent, and long lasting ...
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Yeah, no kidding, up to a few days longer lasting, according to WIKI:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2%CE%B2-propanoyl-3%CE%B2-%282-naphthyl%29-tropane said:
As can be seen on pubmed, these acyl substituted phenyltropanes are highly potent MAT inhibitors and also have a very long half-life,
spanning a few days (at least?).
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Sounds a bit intense, at least on paper. 8o
I would expect the wrath of this one to be much, much worse than mephedrone.
 
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