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The Big & Dandy Ego Death Thread

Last time I took it I wanted to experience ego death. My wife complained that my ego was too big anyway and that she had to do the drug-sitting for me wanting my ego to die.

After that it became very clear to me what ego death would mean to me:
having to endure absolutely everything that I really, really didn't want to happen!
I embarked on a long and painful mindfuck trip mixing up myself with Jesus Christ getting nailed to the cross - and because Jesus returned from death it would happen over and over again ... I got a rather horrible glimpse of eternity. After realizing that I was not Jesus on the cross there still stayed the foreseeable future of my wife and me slowly cutting down each others egos until death part us.
Hopefully the buddhists are wrong and death will really be the end of it ...

Guys, I really envy you for experiencing ego death - I only got the pain, but my f*ing ego survived.
 
Last time I took it I wanted to experience ego death. My wife complained that my ego was too big anyway and that she had to do the drug-sitting for me wanting my ego to die.

After that it became very clear to me what ego death would mean to me:
having to endure absolutely everything that I really, really didn't want to happen!
I embarked on a long and painful mindfuck trip mixing up myself with Jesus Christ getting nailed to the cross - and because Jesus returned from death it would happen over and over again ... I got a rather horrible glimpse of eternity. After realizing that I was not Jesus on the cross there still stayed the foreseeable future of my wife and me slowly cutting down each others egos until death part us.
Hopefully the buddhists are wrong and death will really be the end of it ...

Guys, I really envy you for experiencing ego death - I only got the pain, but my f*ing ego survived.


man i know what you mean :/ thats what got me and my friends trapped at first. We got stuck in a loop where we said "your nothing but a thought and something has to exsist to think you and so on" and "once its all over, you start again, you live, you die, you start over" It pushed us over the edge and made reality gone, it turned reality into a dream for me....
 
ego death to me is and ive only experienced it once is where ur in a dream esque state and just let go of everything.

I was having a very difficult trip a whole nother level of tripping i didnt know existed and about 4 hours in I just let go and stopped wanting it to end and realized the fight was futile after i gave up i orgasmed and the most serene setting took place

I truly was in the 5th dimension of tripping.
 
PHP:
if you're ego was dead, who was it that experienced ego death "so many times"??

well i was walking with 2 of my friends to another friends house
n the side walk there has so many plants around it
i experienced ego death before we left and once outside i felt as if
i had switched concioussness with my friends over n over and with the plants
and there were so many plants that my concioussness switched so many times
by the time we got to my friends house, i went to the restroom to piss
and thats when all of sudden, memories, so many memories rushing of all those plants and switching concioussness and becoming so many people and things that all of a sudden all the collected concioussness died together. AGAIN

On my walk, i lost myself and became everything else around me, and once i was there, everything else i became, experienced ego death......its hard to explain O.o its one of those things that our language cant really convey
just that everything i became after not being myself, died within me.
 
ego death to me is and ive only experienced it once is where ur in a dream esque state and just let go of everything.

I was having a very difficult trip a whole nother level of tripping i didnt know existed and about 4 hours in I just let go and stopped wanting it to end and realized the fight was futile after i gave up i orgasmed and the most serene setting took place

I truly was in the 5th dimension of tripping.

my poor friend, it was her first time tripping and she experienced ego death and she was so confused and didnt want to let go :( she resisted the whole time even though i told her dont fight it, you must let it take you. and my e-tard friend made everything so much worse!!! he acts like he knew what to do and he split me n her up n wouldnt let us communicate together and turned her against me even though the whole time me and my 2 friends all felt like we needed to be together for it to end and he wouldnt let us even talk to each other. It really scared and confused her, after it ended she said that He turned her against me n she wanted us 3 tripping to be together and alone
 
Ego death usually accrues when one is alone in a set and setting that one is very comfortable with. You may intrepid it as blacking out or forgetting who and what you are. Then you come back with a really good mood set, total confidence of ones being
 
I think you might have been eluding that if you have a good set an setting you will have a good experience with ego death, but i just wanted to say having ego death definitely isn't always pleasant. (edit - from what i have read that is. I am not implying any previous experience)


Also, i stated above what i thought was the closest i had come to ego death, but i think i was sort of thinking of the hardest i had ever tripped instead, and also realized that another experience i had may have come much closer or possibly achieved it on a small level . I have come MUCH closer to ego death off of only 2 tabs, with a really good mindset, while laying in pitch black, under a blanket, listening to music with noise canceling headphones. I vividly remember feeling as if i was nothing except for a tiny dot in the middle of a huge universe (literally, not metaphorically). For a brief period i forgot who i was and how i really existed, all i existed as in that state was the tiny dot, but it wasn't bad. It wasn't frightening, or depressing, or anything. I guess thinking back on it now i could have considered how i felt as "blissfull". However i never really thought i had had ego death then because of the low dose. Knowing what i know now that isn't necessarily true.

Anybody want to comment on if they think i had (slight if any) ego death? I can't say for sure how long it lasted but it probably wasn't for more than an hour if that, 30 mins maybe? i guess i actually have no way of knowing though, as i dosed the tabs at 9pm and tripped in bed until i fell asleep i guess.
 
Anybody want to comment on if they think i had (slight if any) ego death? I can't say for sure how long it lasted but it probably wasn't for more than an hour if that, 30 mins maybe?

You'll know if you've experienced it.

The process leading up-to it can be quite terrifying as your stripped away to your core, and as your 'self' dissolves and merges into the infinite collective consciousness you cease to exist as an individuality and experience universal bliss, there is no sense of I.. the very concept is foreign. You become everything and nothing, duality is united, and the paradoxical nature of reality collapse's in on itself.

I've truly only really experienced entire ego loss on a DMT break-through. I had a few experience's with high dose's of liquid LSD where i felt the presence of my ego been broken down analytically, but no where near the scale of DMT.
 
caseface99 ^

You know personally set and setting for me is a place where there are no worries no what ifs entering your mind \ i.e. like perhaps the phone ringing and its your mom calling etc... so you make sure you unplug it.

Tripping outside in a secluded place where you know no strangers will unexpectedly stumble upon you and you have to snap out of it, so to speak.

I've seen some friends that where tripping with people out in public places; not do so well in those setting, it forces you to maintain or hang on to yourself while the drug is saying otherwise. From my experience dealing with people in that precision make for and unpleasant experience witch causes confusion and a bag load of unpleasantness's, panic attacks etc...

On the other hand seen others in pubic completely became uncontrollable and did not remember a thing the next day. Or at least go shew made it through that day.

Personally for me set and setting while using large doses does the trick.
everyones different and explaining this stuff isn't easy especially when everyone intrepids things via there own experiences differently.

But I think that the proper set and setting allows you to enter ego loss faster more so then not.
 
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malakaix ^

Yeah DMT for me is scary because it takes you there so fast. LSD at least gives you time to become comfortable with it while taking you down the rabbit hole.

I don't get that scary or terrifying feeling anymore like i did when i was new to the experience.
 
I think you might have been eluding that if you have a good set an setting you will have a good experience with ego death, but i just wanted to say having ego death definitely isn't always pleasant. (edit - from what i have read that is. I am not implying any previous experience)

I would personally disagree with this. Ego death is bliss - pure and simple. It is impossible to feel fear because you no longer exist as a separate entity - you are one with everything that has ever and will ever exist. That's not to say that the time leading up to it can't be overwhelming but once you fall off the edge of existence there is no fear because fear no longer exists - it's a construct of the ego so cannot exist by definition during true ego death, in my opinion :)

Have only experienced it twice - maybe three times but the third was borderline so doesn't really count. LSD + ketamine and ketamine alone the other time was what got me there and hopefully will again sometime. Would love to experience it from other substances to see if they all take you to the same place but I strongly sense that they do.

Hmm... ego death. Yum <3

Gonna merge this with the main ego death thread for further discussions :)
 
is anyone here familiar with Michael Hoffman's cybernetic theory of ego death? it neatly explains the core insights of the ego death/rebirth experience
 
^^ does that mean that for ego loss higher doses are needed ?
I mean about twice the usual "comfortable" party level dosage, the latter being about 100µg pure LSD (if I remember correctly) ?
 
I think I had something like it on 4g of mushrooms plus some bud. Basically, I forgot everything there was, and the only thing that existed was just luminescent leafy patterns all over the place. I forgot my own name, who I was, what I was. Time itself seemed to just...end. It might have lasted for like two hours, or a few minutes. It was preceded by feeling kind of sick and heavy (not just heavy stomach, like, my whole body was in an altered gravity zone) and just laying down to let things run their course. Wasn't very pleasant. Afterwards, though, the fun of the trip returned, and when I went outside, I stepped into the most incredibly beautiful scene ever.

Basically, a summary of my last trip report.
 
You become everything and nothing, duality is united, and the paradoxical nature of reality collapse's in on itself.

Just wanted to highlight that this is a clear condensed description of the ego death experience.

Nicely worded.

I'd like to add that as the paradoxical nature of reality collapses in on itself the paradoxical nature of our perception of reality is revealed.
 
I know that this may not be the place for an entire report, but I wanted to share my views on the ego death experience with as many people as possible, and this seemed like the best place on the Internet for that. Writing is part of the integration process for me, and I can't justify making this any shorter. Read only the third and fourth paragraphs if you want the most relevant parts. If you want to discuss or debate anything in my report, please share your thoughts. I don't think I will find a more receptive community than Bluelight for this kind of thing.

I don’t know where to begin in describing the experience I have had. I feel that if I can successfully communicate the insights and revelations of my trip, all further reports would be obsolete from a philosophical standpoint. I wasn’t expecting the trip to take me where it did, but I went with the flow and allowed my thoughts to probe the depths of my psyche. In doing so, I was able to achieve the state of ego death while meditating at the peak of the trip. I was on two hits of acid and one pill of Ecstasy and had smoked two joints at the point I had the experience. This was my first time on LSD, and I think that it allowed me to conceptualize the experience in a very analytical manner. I find that LSD is more intellectual and less emotional in its effects than psilocybin. I doubt I would have successfully achieved the state if not for the E. MDMA completely dissolves any fears and anxieties that come up in the psychedelic state and has allowed me to go further into my trips than I have been able to without it. Having said that, when you’re as submerged in the experience as I was, you don’t care what drug is contributing to what effect. I honestly don’t know at this point how many of my insights and revelations I will be able to remember and carry into the future. I almost worry that time will progressively make me forget the lessons of the trip. I will try and capture as much as I can in words, but words don’t map exactly onto thoughts, and I know that I will never be able to describe the whole experience in writing.

Ego death shows the illusory aspect of the ego, your sense of self. It is the apex of the psychedelic experience. For me, it was a moment of Satori enlightenment, an experience of the infinite. In my opinion, once you have achieved the state and can learn from it, there is no need to fear physical death. That is how profound it is. The experience was so powerful that it shook the philosophical foundations of my reality to the core. This wasn’t the first time I had achieved the state: I came close to the threshold throughout the summer and then finally had a breakthrough experience on 6 g of shrooms and two hits of E at the beginning of September. After the trip, I don’t think I was able to frame the experience in my everyday paradigms of reality. Since then, I’ve been reading up about ego death and finding out how it relates to practices and experiences like meditation, prayer, sleep deprivation, and fasting – how it is an experience that anyone can have in a sober state with enough training and patience. The issue with achieving ego death through psychedelics is that the lessons are harder to integrate because the experience is forced on you so suddenly and is not easy to comprehend without the appropriate expectations and knowledge. I was able to handle it because of my experience with the psychedelic state, but being an introspective and philosophical individual certainly helps.

I don’t think there is any one way of making sense of the ego death experience. You could even say that meaning is antithetical to the experience because it is what the ego uses to try and understand the state in retrospect. Simply put, ego death is the lack of any meaning, or at least realizing that meaning is a label affixed to reality by the ego and that existence is possible without meaning. As a science student, I have framed the experience in terms of my knowledge of the biological, chemical, and physical basis of consciousness. I equate ego death to transcending the four-dimension bound state of waking consciousness and entering a state of infinite awareness in which everyday frames of reference for processing and making sense of information don’t exist. You are simply being, not knowing or feeling or observing, but existing for the moment and independent of meaning. The experience takes time dilation to an extreme – indeed, it has changed my ideas about the perception of time at a psychological level. Ego death is a fusion of perception and reality, where to think is to exist. All boundaries between your self and the environment cease to be, and the only reality is your moment-to-moment awareness. I see this as equivalent to removing all the filters and barriers information is normally processed through by the nervous system. When we are first born into our bodies – when a human consciousness starts to develop from the cells of a fetus – we have no sense of self at all. We don’t have much in the way of sensory input either. After birth, we experience our first sensations but have no means of categorizing them. In other words, we lead an existence free of meaning. This state changes, however, under the influence of genes and environment and the complex interplay between the two. Gradually, an ego emerges that learns how it relates to the environment. As a result of cumulative changes, personality develops. Over time, these processes serve to funnel waking consciousness through specific filters and barriers, which is what learning is all about. The filters are necessary to allow you to function in everyday life because you would be overwhelmed with all the information your nervous system receives in your moment-to-moment awareness unless you had a means for processing the information. The ego is thus a functional necessity of existence, but it isn’t necessary for your physical existence and, in my opinion, can serve to distort your mental picture of reality and impede living life to the fullest of your abilities. This is why ego death can be a very therapeutic experience if approached properly. Drug-induced ego death can feel like physical death if your ego doesn’t accept the state and tries to fight the thoughts, which is why people have trouble with it. Some drugs overwhelm you with the experience and don’t give your ego enough opportunity to fight back because the ascent is so quick. I think DMT and salvia (at breakthrough doses) fall into this category. Those ego death experiences are accompanied by a lot of sensory and perceptual distortion as well, i.e. hallucinations. Ego death is more difficult to achieve using shrooms and acid unless you go to the high doses and isn’t accompanied by as many hallucinations (in my experience, at least), but I doubt the drug actually matters when it comes to the core of the experience. Ego death for me was not a hallucinatory experience in any conventional sense – in fact, it was a very lucid and clear-headed state in which the cognitive, sensory, and emotional qualia of consciousness all blended together to produce a mental state focused solely on momentary awareness. Rather than sensing what was not, I felt as though I was perceiving what had always been.

One of the most fascinating and important lessons of the ego death experience, I think, is realizing how alike and interconnected all living things are. All known forms of life are iterations of the same unique algorithm written in the code of DNA, to use a computing metaphor. On a cosmic scale, every human being is almost identical when you consider how much more of the universe is gas and dust than living, self-aware matter. The ways in which we see ourselves as different are insignificant compared to how alike we are as sentient and social beings. You have more in common as a carbon-based lifeform with a bacterium than with 99% of the matter in the universe. If you run the cosmic laws that govern the existence of elementary particles across sufficient stretches of space and time, you will get the marvel that we are all a part of, the enterprise of life. The special thing about life is that, given enough time, lifeforms complex enough to be self-aware will evolve. The only thing separating bacteria from sentient creatures is time, but the first bacterium was nonetheless a key step in the process that over time lead to the sprawling diversity of lifeforms we have today on our planet. The atomic particles that make you up had an existence long before they congregated in a particular three-dimensional arrangement to produce the entity that is you. Achieving ego death is like tuning in to this cosmic frequency in your psyche, like transcending your sense of self not just as a human but as a living thing and becoming one with the eternal energy of the universe. After all, consciousness is the result of mass interacting with energy. All of your sensations and perceptions can be explained as the result of chemical reactions and physical processes. I liken ego death to experiencing consciousness at this atomic and molecular level.

I can try as much as I want to define and describe it, but I know that ego death by its very nature has an ineffable quality, an aspect to it that can only be experienced and never communicated through words. I don’t expect any of you to take for granted any of the ideas I present in this report. These are my views on the experience, and I am only concerned with how much sense they make to me. But believe me when I say that I am not exaggerating about the magnitude and power of the experience. I truly feel fortunate to have had it, and I hope that I can integrate the lessons more successfully and fully this time than the last. I can actually write an entire report on what lessons I think I’ve learned through the powerful depersonalizing and decentering aspects of ego death. I will also write a fuller report later including the actual doings and happenings of the trip, but for now I only want to capture my thoughts about the core of the experience, since all other details are essentially irrelevant. Even if you choose to dismiss my opinions and ideas, I hope I have given you something to think about, something to challenge your notions of what the human mind is capable of. As humans, we have amazing potential within our psyches, and psychedelics (if used wisely) are an amazing tool to make you realize the existence of this power within you to shape your own reality.
 
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