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When you are in the middle of a difficult trip...

I always tell myself to beat it. I smoked some JWH, got paranoid, then I asked myself why I was doing that? Hey asshole, shut the fuck up, just continue what you were doing even if you are paranoid, nothing is gonna happen! I'm pretty sure I beat my paranoia that way, but I don't know for sure, I haven't gotten paranoid since.
 
If the trip has passed a point to where you no longer want to even trip, just take some xanax, and hope your not tripping off one of the few psychedelics I have found out the hard way xanax is not strong enough for. DMT is one of them.
 
i use to have the same problem.. thats why, for me, candy flipping was a total game changer.

i found that acid was only getting me so far, it felt like something was missing.. then i remembered ecstasy and someone telling me that mixing it with acid was awesome. aha! it was the compassion, love and acceptance mdma bestows you with that was missing from my trips.

flipping helped me face things about life and myself that otherwise i wouldve never even come close to look at. totally changed my entire life, over night.
 
.Lucid. said:
i use to have the same problem.. thats why, for me, candy flipping was a total game changer.

i found that acid was only getting me so far, it felt like something was missing.. then i remembered ecstasy and someone telling me that mixing it with acid was awesome. aha! it was the compassion, love and acceptance mdma bestows you with that was missing from my trips.

flipping helped me face things about life and myself that otherwise i wouldve never even come close to look at. totally changed my entire life, over night.
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the idea has always intrigued me, for years now. I just never got comfortable with it enough to do it I guess.
 
Hmm, I've been thinking of candyflipping for a while now, and now I want to do it.

In the past, drawing has been very therapeutic for me while in bad trips. Usually it starts with me "raving into the page", as my friend puts it. As I do more drawings, they gradually start to take more physical shapes. What I really enjoy about it is how the art just seems to flow from the universe, through me, and into the page rather than me exerting a conscious effort to put something down. It's funny, ganja god, because one of my favorite drawings in this vein was of a gigantic alien with its hands wrapped around the planet Earth. :)

I also enjoy listening to light folk music, a la the soundtrack for O Brother, Where Art Thou?, something about it just brings me back down to a state of serenity.
 
I always have beer in the fridge.

My bed is ideal.

I like to know I have music and the laptop+internet on hand, but usually just lying in bed watching CEVs without anyone other than perhaps my girl if she is around.
 
Easy answer: Valium!! :)

However, I sometimes find the psych anxiety is extremely hard to deal with, especially if you have anxiety issues to begin with. Trying to tell myself it's just the drugs, everything is ok, I'm a good person, there's no reason to feel this way, etc., it doesn't really help all too much.

Distractions are the best cure, especially things that normally make you happy and entertain you, like a significant other, or a favorite music or something.
 
I picture myself wherever I am, I can see myself from a few feet above my physical self. Then I start zooming out, until I am far across the universe. This makes my little experience seem so small and insignificant that I may forget about it. This works for a lot of different things, I got the idea from a study that showed if one looks at an injury or sore body part through binoculars through the wrong end (shrinking the image) it actually decreases the pain they feel.
 
If a trip goes south for me, I usually try to take a shower or bath. Something about getting myself under water usually re-tunes me.

Also, I keep something like 1,4 Butanediol or some benzos of some sort around to help level out rougher trips.

Also, listen to Brian Eno's album "Discreet Music". So soothing...
 
After reading Shulgin's thought on this matter, I figured I'd put them in this thread to go along with the other good info.

He says "just step out of it". Once you recognize a bad place and spend some time it, and see what goes on there, its okay to just step out, and continue along in other realities that function right along side the 'bad place'. He says he goes to the lab and washes glassware until he finds himself in another place, or the energies transform into something else. Seems like the conscious decision to 'step out' of a certain place is the key part, and then some physical activity in the world helps to execute upon that decision.
 
I like to get up and walk around a bit, or maybe go outside for some fresh air. Sometimes a small change in atmosphere can make a world of differece.

And this:
CatfishRivers said:
If a trip goes south for me, I usually try to take a shower or bath. Something about getting myself under water usually re-tunes me.
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Showers can be very refreshing. :)
 
Seems also key to remember to not always think its necessary to 'solve' the bad area. Sometimes its okay to just leave it there.
 
^yea if its too much and youre not totally lost in it you should just bail for a while. tv is always a good back up for me.. something light like cartoons or sitcoms. i use to watch reruns of cheers and fraiser when i was coming out of a trip at like 4am lol.


i still say go for the flip though.
 
X3DFX said:
Seems also key to remember to not always think its necessary to 'solve' the bad area. Sometimes its okay to just leave it there.
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That seems to play into the whole "stepping out of it" thing, or what DwayneHoover mentioned about moving up a level or two until you're not "in" the bad place anymore. It's funny how spatial metaphors seem so apt with matters of mind. :)

In the same vein, just changing your physical setting can do wonders as well. I find this tends to be the case with tripping indoors -- going outside for a bit, even if it's freezing cold (all while remembering to bundle up, of course) can be very refreshing, especially at night time if no other people are out and about. Seeing the stars always puts me in a place of contentment, sober or otherwise. <3
 
DwayneHoover said:
The "difficult trips" FAQ at Erowid recommends, among other things, removing your shoes and socks and allowing the soles of your bare feel to be on contact with the ground/floor.
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My friend was having a difficult experience on acid once while I was rolling. She then exclaimed out of no where that she HAD to go to the beach NOW. So a sober friend drove us to the beach while she continued her trip. When we got to the beach, she took one step on the damp sand and proceeded to run up and down the beach dancing and laughing. Also, for the record damp sand is amazing while rolling =D
 
Flarestar89 said:
If you're on good terms with your parents, you could try calling them. Weirdest suggestion ever, I know. But I've talked to my parents briefly on psychs, and even if it's just a simple conversation, if they really love you, it's a reminder that you ARE important.
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It might be better for most folks having a hard time to maybe have a pre-recorded message from their parents telling them how much they love them than actually calling them in the thick of it. :\ The last worry you need to introduce into an already shaky situation is that your parents think you're a hopped up druggy out of his or her mind.

but if yer parents are cool fielding that kind of phone call, by all means!
 
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