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are there different kinds of "LSD"

LSD is LSD is LSD.

It can degrade. But what it degrades into isn't active as far as anyone is aware (Hoffmann took large doses of iso-lsd without any affect) - & there's only the tiniest of amounts anyway.

You have no way of knowing the dose for certain without getting them tested (available in some European countries).

Some other drugs are put on blotter, but this is very rare. & most last a good 2 or 3 times longer than LSD.
 
Well, there is the needlepoint, lavendar, white fluff, etc. but they only refer to the purity of LSD. As mentioned above, LSD is and always will be LSD; when it degrades, it become NOT LSD.

And no, its pretty much impossible to determine the concentration of LSD in a pre-laid dose...
 
I definitely disagree that there can't be different "types" of LSD - LSD that has been poorly handled tends to have a much higher bodyload than LSD that has been taken care of properly.
 
no. definetely not a placebo. i've done many drugs.

my friends told me the simplest way, at the moment, was to just define it as a GOOD dose of L.S.D

REAL shit...but i dont know much about it. all i know was that a veteran of the drug told me that my "dose" was ideal...pure. something lots of "acid-heads" look for.

which brings up my question, are there different kinds of "LSD"?

im sure my friends will explain when the time's right but rest assured, it was "pure"


ps. I DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT THOUGH :)

strawberry fields forever is all i can say
 
If your LSD is old and/or has been mishandled, the blotter will actually contain a good portion of iso-LSD and lumi-LSD: both of which are inactive as psychedelics in man.
 
there is no doubt in my mind....what i just experienced sir, was "far out."
a 'TRIP" in every essence of the word.
My inquiry was more or less answered, LSD is LSD. dosage can't be determined....
 
Roger&Me said:
If your LSD is old and/or has been mishandled, the blotter will actually contain a good portion of iso-LSD and lumi-LSD: both of which are inactive as psychedelics in man.
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They may be inactive but that doesn't mean that when combined with actual LSD, they don't add bodyload.
 
I said "inactive as psychedelics". :)

I'm totally down with the speculation that the pharmacological action iso-LSD and lumi-LSD is responsible for the bodyload of degraded LSD.
 
I've had LSD that had an extreme mindfuck to it, a darker less "friendly" experience whereas other LSD has been super clean, clear headed yet still trippy, and very goofy. Based on my experience, this "dirty" easier-to-lose-your-head-on acid is definitely acid, but there is something very different about it. Everything screams LSD from the come up, duration, and visuals. I always thought LSD is LSD but ever since I picked up those two strips of WOW and then eating some completely different WOW I found that they have their differences.

It's definitely not a DOx, that's for sure. Can anyone speculate? I don't like using the terms dirty and clean for LSD. I've eaten 5 hits of the "dirty" L and had some extreme ego loss merging with the universe, very difficult to communicate with others. The "clean" L was extremely goofy, fantastically euphoric and easy to communicate with others. Even though I was tripping hard, I did not feel like I was gonna lose myself at all. Very interesting actually. My friends didn't like the L at all and neither did I, but that's not to say I didn't have fun.
 
The compound LSD is one thing universally, but not only the purity differs... you can also have compound in the acid you took like iso-LSD that may have much more physical effects that would make it feel a lot less clean and transparent but rather electric and anxious. There could be slight changes in psychological effect but I personally think it is probably more important that a change in side-effects itself causes a psychological change.

I disagree that every batch of acid only differs in the effective dose (i.e. the impurities would be inactive and insignificant).

AFAIK there is no conclusive answer to this and two (or more) opinions or sides remain to this question because there has not been enough research to determine if compounds like iso- or lumi- or other forms of LSD cause this weird body-load.

The anecdotal evidence I would present as exhibit A is that certains blotters have consequently produced clean and transparent feeling trips while some other blotters I have had seemed 'cloudy, electric, etc'. If the problem would be set & setting this would mean statistical anomalies or coincidence. Friends of mine agreed with my subjective quality analysis. But I cannot be sure of the meaning.

How are you to know how much LSD is in your blotter or microdot or liquid? Well in my country (the Netherlands) you can get it tested for free - identity of compound and dose if LSD - but in most countries you can't, then there is no way to determine the dose.

If you want to know if it even is LSD or perhaps if it is a DOX or 5-MeO-aMT or one of the fly PEAs... there is a chance you could test with a marquis reagent (a drug tester kit) but the doses might be too low to get a definitive result. Has anyone tried this?
 
I was under the understanding (I've never tried it) that LSD under a blacklight will glow while other compounds will not. Is this just a myth? I always found it fascinating.
 
MagickalKat777 said:
I was under the understanding (I've never tried it) that LSD under a blacklight will glow while other compounds will not. Is this just a myth? I always found it fascinating.
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What would you do with this information in the case of blotters? (White) paper is also fluorescent is it not? And if colored the pigment would also interfere with the luminescent LSD.
 
Blotter can range between zero to hundreds upon hundreds of mics.

I have eaten some blotter and 1 or 2 was way too much..... Like to the point of i would not feel comfortable giving 1 to someone that did not know what the fuck they were messing with.

Oh how i love the fluff. Eating 1 or 2 and just having your shit rocked harder than eating 10 normal doses.
 
OP: I don't think anyone was suggesting that what you took wasn't actually acid. I'm pretty sure the placebo comment was about being able to tell the difference between different purities of acid based on the bodyload.

Anyway, the only real different "kinds" of acid are names for different purities. Nearly 100% pure product is super rare and mostly gets taken by the chemists themselves and their close friends; that stuff is called needlepoint. White fluff is a step below that, and below white fluff are the three main commercial varieties: silver, lavendar and amber. Some people, like mkat, say they can tell the difference because the impurities have some added bodyload. There's no conclusive evidence that there is an active degradation product that could cause this, but there's no conclusive evidence that there isn't, either. For most people, though, assuming what they have is LSD and not some other drug being misrepresented as LSD, the only thing that really matters is the total dose of LSD - if the crystal it was laid from is less pure, then more weight would be needed to get the same actual dose, but that doesn't really matter to the end user who gets a tab of unknown potency.

It's notoriously hard to gauge the dose of LSD tabs, since even most highly experienced users have never had a single dose of truly 100% known quantity. The best most of us can do is compare how intense a given dose feels to how intense past doses have felt, to get a rough idea of how potent a batch is.
 
Oh Jesus H. Christ... and now for the 10,000th incarnation of the "is there such a thing as clean acid vs. dirty acid that has more bodyload?" meme.


WHY DONT THE MODS HERE CREATE ONE VAST MEGATHREAD FOR THIS CONTINUOUSLY REPEATED QUESTION (WHAT, LIKE 4 OR FIVE TIMES PER WEEK?), THEN DEPOSIT *ALL* LAZY NEWBIE QUESTIONS ON THIS SAME EXACT THING FOR THE MILLIONTH TIME INTO THIS MEGA-THREAD... ISN'T THAT THE BEST RESPONSE?
 
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