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Therapeutic Shrooming

DaveTripper

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I've been recently dealing with a lot of anxiety due to a horrible acid trip I had about 6 months ago, and I've figured out that all of this anxiety is stemming from me not really knowing who I am, and what is important to me.

So I'm thinking about taking some shrooms, alone in my room, with some of my favorite music and drawing utensils, to sort of figure out who I am and what is really bothering me.

First off, do you guys think this is a good idea? And secondly, what kind of dose would be appropriate? I was thinking around 2gs.

Let me know what you all think! <3
 
Doing shrooms may bring back intense memories of your acid trip. I personally wouldn't take any shrooms. I didn't like shrooms by themselfs, I get real paranoid even off 1g. If your gonna take shrooms, have a benzo or something incase your trip starts feeling like your bad acid trip. Shrooms and acid are kinda similar imo.
 
It all depends on whether or not you're willing to work through your issues. The value of the mushroom teacher is in it's ability to perturb the mind. By perturbing the mind first it is allowed to grow, just like the way muscle is cut down and then grows back stronger. This is a long process, as much about the hours and days following the trip as the trip itself. Don't get hung up on looking for insight, this will only trap you. Let what happens arise on its own.

The mushroom is a powerful change agent, but you sort of have to let it take you where it wants to go. Only by lending yourself over to the energy will you be able to use it. Think of it like a wave. If you stand motionless in its path you're going to get smacked with a wall of water. But if you ride the wave it will carry you gently, as if you are floating. So too the power of the mushroom will smack against the obstinate mind with violent force, but with the yielding mind it will be gracious and nurturing.

When that first rise begins to hit you, you can either become overwhelmed and fight it, leading to a pattern of fear, frustration and anxiety, or you can accept it and ride it, leading to feelings of bliss, peace, and edification.

The higher the dose, the stronger the wave.
 
I agree with BrutalRoller. I think taking Shrooms, in your case, would be identical to taking LSD. It's like having a bad experience with some earphones, then buying earphones from a different make. It's either going to be good or bad, but the fact that it's from a different make won't make any difference. At least that's the best parallel I can come up with.

Still, shrooms are amazing. I think everyone should try them
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. Don't know how your anxiety problems though.

Good luck
 
I remember reading about a doctor who prescribed mushrooms to a very depressed guy, who was also crippled in a wheelchair i think.

I can't recall the details, but of course there wasn't some pharmacy giving the guy shrooms, it was more the doctor gave the guy the ok to use them once or twice a week, or however much he needed them.

I think the doc monitered him for safety a few times, did testing to amke sure there were no contradictions in medicines, and gave him the ok to go ahead and use them on a regular basis.

Anyways, i'd say if your living in truth, if your being honest with yourself, then you will find if your ready to try it, or not. It's amazing how accurate our conscience is.. our gut feelings.

You might be nervous about it, but if it's the right choice, pay attention to your feelings, and you will know.
 
It's not worth the risk.. it could go horribly wrong..

Seek medical advice if your anxiety is too much.
 
OP, you sound just like me. I tripped on magic mushrooms last weekend in hopes of healing not only the psychological damage of an acid trip gone horribly wrong about a year ago, but a mescaline trip gone almost as bad back in December. Since the mescaline I'd been having panic attacks and using benzo's, alcohol, and anything else my grubby and scrabbling hands could clutch onto to suppress them. Finally, I said, "Fuck it" and ate a sixteenth of an ounce of mushrooms.

And it healed. It healed! My panic has been significantly reduced. My urge to drug myself has been even further reduces; I've used no drugs at all since Saturday (when I tripped)! Less than a week is not long enough to judge the lasting effects of something (or lack thereof), but all indications so far point in an optimistic direction.

Mushrooms are much gentler in revealing the grotesqueries of one's personaliy. Acid showed me what was disgusting about myself through mockery, viciousness, condescension, and panic. Mescaline was pure panic followed by coolness. Mushrooms brought their own anxiety at first, but it was extremely manageable, even easier to manage than marijuana anxiety. Following that, they became almost as cool as mescaline, and far more revelatory, soothing, and insightful.

I disagree with seeking "medical advice" re: anxiety. That'll lead you to benzo's and therefore brainlessness. Not to be overly caustic, but the mental fog, memory and learning impairment, and general "meh" factors of benzo's make them useless for anything but heading off an acute panic attack.

It all depends on whether or not you're willing to work through your issues. The value of the mushroom teacher is in it's ability to perturb the mind. By perturbing the mind first it is allowed to grow, just like the way muscle is cut down and then grows back stronger. This is a long process, as much about the hours and days following the trip as the trip itself. Don't get hung up on looking for insight, this will only trap you. Let what happens arise on its own.

The mushroom is a powerful change agent, but you sort of have to let it take you where it wants to go. Only by lending yourself over to the energy will you be able to use it. Think of it like a wave. If you stand motionless in its path you're going to get smacked with a wall of water. But if you ride the wave it will carry you gently, as if you are floating. So too the power of the mushroom will smack against the obstinate mind with violent force, but with the yielding mind it will be gracious and nurturing.

When that first rise begins to hit you, you can either become overwhelmed and fight it, leading to a pattern of fear, frustration and anxiety, or you can accept it and ride it, leading to feelings of bliss, peace, and edification.

The higher the dose, the stronger the wave.

Amen. I had to suffer incredibly through my LSD and mescaline trips to finally learn to let go a little and DEAL with shit rather than trying to be a tyrant over my own mind. Mushrooms showed me --gently-- that I'm too self-centered and thoughtless. I voiced these realizations out loud, and fought through the initial mental recoiling away from these honest self-criticisms to accept and even take joy in them.

I think music and drawing utensils are a bad, contrived idea, though. I would advise either darkness and silence, or being in the presence of someone you love who is also tripping. I've tried both approaches on different psychedelics, and found them both rewarding in different ways, whereas music really is just mathematically pleasing mind-drivel.
 
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It all depends on whether or not you're willing to work through your issues. The value of the mushroom teacher is in it's ability to perturb the mind. By perturbing the mind first it is allowed to grow, just like the way muscle is cut down and then grows back stronger. This is a long process, as much about the hours and days following the trip as the trip itself. Don't get hung up on looking for insight, this will only trap you. Let what happens arise on its own.

The mushroom is a powerful change agent, but you sort of have to let it take you where it wants to go. Only by lending yourself over to the energy will you be able to use it. Think of it like a wave. If you stand motionless in its path you're going to get smacked with a wall of water. But if you ride the wave it will carry you gently, as if you are floating. So too the power of the mushroom will smack against the obstinate mind with violent force, but with the yielding mind it will be gracious and nurturing.

When that first rise begins to hit you, you can either become overwhelmed and fight it, leading to a pattern of fear, frustration and anxiety, or you can accept it and ride it, leading to feelings of bliss, peace, and edification.

The higher the dose, the stronger the wave.

You just won the forum.
 
It's not worth the risk.. it could go horribly wrong..

Seek medical advice if your anxiety is too much.

While I do see what you're saying, I really don't want to be put on benzos or anti-depressants for my anxiety, I want to find the root of these problems and fix them.

I know that tripping again can and probably will bring back some bad memories from my bad acid trip, but since I'll be alone this time I think I'll be able to analyze these feelings, and hopefully change them for the better.

If this doesn't work, then I'll start thinking about medical advice.

Edit: Oh and I will have a benzo on hand just in-case things get way too unmanageable.
 
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I think shrooms will help if you go in with the right attitude but obviously it's risky because tripping is very intense compared to any other drugs it's such a mental reconditioning unlike the others. If you go with the flow you'll be fine and can gain alot (even if it goes sour you will gain alot) but you just have to be ready to accept it for what it is.
 
So, I'm bringing this thread back from the dead =). I think I'm finally ready to venture back into the world of psychedelics. I've been living with this stupid anxiety for too long now and I think I need to look inside myself for the answer. It has now been a year since my difficult acid trip and something is telling me it's time.

I'll be doing it as I said in my first post: alone in my room, and I'm thinking about 2.5g.

Any comments/suggestions/concerns would be appreciated.

-Dave
 
you have your set, setting and purpose

and you have the mechanism to move forward...

my question then is: why post? are you second guessing yourself?
 
you need a list of questions.
you also need to do whatever is you're going to do while in the psychedelic state of mind while you're not in the psychedelic state of mind! like, practice first. Look into your problem areas, figure out how you go about communicating with yourself. what do you usually do when you remember something you don't want to remember? what do you do when you catch yourself running? What do you like to look at, what don't you like to look at? You have to know a bit about each of these things beforehand, and certainly during. Your attention must be able to be focused in these areas.

remember that you must find the questions before you bother trying to find the answers. Also that it is okay to go right from one huge unanswered question down into the next, and the next. The answers usually show themselves on their own once you catch a ride down on a nice set of questions.

also, do not put yourself in the 'if this doesn't work, then Im gonna blah blah blah' type of situation. It is near guaranteed to not work if you approach it with such pressure for a certain outcome. The outcome you are looking for is something you've never seen before, so you have no idea what 'it working' looks like. So you cant hold something over yourself that you don't even know what it is.

Make sure you 'take care of' everything that you are actually able to 'in the real world' before you venture into the psychedelic exploration. Some stupid thing you've been meaning to do, but have been putting off for a long time can nag the hell out of you and distract you from the real things you want to focus on.
 
you have your set, setting and purpose

and you have the mechanism to move forward...

my question then is: why post? are you second guessing yourself?

Well, I guess I'm just a little nervous. I know that this is going to be one hell of an experience and yeah I guess I am second guessing myself. But I feel like this is a necessary thing to do if I ever want to move on with my life.
 
Well, I guess I'm just a little nervous. I know that this is going to be one hell of an experience and yeah I guess I am second guessing myself. But I feel like this is a necessary thing to do if I ever want to move on with my life.
perhaps you just feel like moving on with your life is the necessary thing. This, may or may not have anything to do with That.
 
I have no idea how else to find myself and finally be at peace with myself =(.
just make sure you fully admit that you have no idea, yet.

also remember that some things take years, 10's of years, heck even a lifetime. Its a long game, a very long game. Don't fret over slow progress.
 
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