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Ethanol Tincture of Cocaine Additive Metabolism

perfectphase

perfectphase

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SWIM recently added 150 grams of powdered Bolivian Coca leaves to 750 ml of 95% ethanol. SWIM is going to let the solvent absorb the cocaine for several days before consumption of a small dose. Question: which form of cocaine is better absorbed via oral ingestion, cocaine base or an acidic salt of cocaine? For example, would the cocaine in the tincture provide more powerful effects consumed orally from adding citric acid in order to potentially create cocaine citrate? Thanks.
 
i am not sure that you will get much alkaloid from this. first, how much will come out of the plant matter without some kind of heating or grinding? second, there just isn't much cocaine in coca leaves.

i'm interested to see what will come of this. are you planning to consume the plant matter too, or filter it? if this concoction is meant to be something to get drunk on, i bet it would be interesting. one must expect that the cocaine effects will be distant compared to the alcohol.

anyway, the form wont matter because your stomach is very acidic.
 
cocaine in coca leaves is best consumed by slow sipping rather than gulping as sublingual absorbtion is far more potent in my experience, i also noted this for poppy tea. both cocaine and morphine have poor absorbtion via the gastrointestinal tract, but a very noticable increase in potency when absorbed through the mucous membrane of the mouth.

really i prefer strong coca tea on its own as its more relaxing, when i mix it with alcohol i can most certainly feel it but it just leads to huge quantities of alcohol being consumed. in 150g there could be UP TO 1gm of cocaine if the leaves were a strong variety (cocaine content can be between 0.1-0.9% of the weight of the leaves). bear in mind coke you buy is cut to shit mostly these days, and coca tea cocaine feels far more relaxing and happy.
 
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doesn't ethanol react with cocaine tho? or is that only when they both have been ingested?
 
only in your liver, but if you drink a cocaine laced drink although you will get cocaethylene, until it hits your liver the cocaine is just as likely destroyed in your digestive tract so gulping is futile. sip cocaine beverages as its just works far better...

nuff said
 
Well after three days of absorption SWIM tried the tincture. SWIM added 50ml of liquid coca leaf/citric acid/ethanol tincture to some cranberry juice and drank it in less than one minute. 15 minutes later SWIM was VERY high. SWIM had only tried heavily adulterated cocaine powder before indulging in this tincture and it is very different, the tincture provides a much more elegant intoxication. The effects are very stimulating but there is no anxiety. SWIM was talking up a storm and had a wonderful mental clarity and excellent sensual body high. The effects lasted 1 hour with a gradual 2 hour comedown. In summary 150-200 grams of powdered coca leaf mixed with 95% ethanol provides a wonderful euphoria with minimal come down effects (if you do not re-dose).
 
Don't use SWIM here. It's idiotic and offers you no protection.

This is probably related to the slower onset because of your route of administration as well as the combination of ethanol.

Cocaethylene shows less NE action than cocaine, right? I'd think this is why it induces less anxiety.
 
When 50ml of tincture was mixed with 300ml of cranberry juice the cocktail was very tolerable, goes down incredibly smooth. Tincture #2 will include 300g powdered coca leaf + 750ml 95% ethanol + 2g maltose + 50ml lemon juice + 150g powdered Kratom leaf. That should be a perfect concoction.
 
sipping it WILL work better than drinking it very fast, you will get more out of it plus the high spreads out longer. but do what you want anyway cos its your coca...

get coca leaves instead of powder as the drink tastes way better and they are stronger in terms of weight
 
perfectphase said:
SWIM recently added 150 grams of powdered Bolivian Coca leaves to 750 ml of 95% ethanol. SWIM is going to let the solvent absorb the cocaine for several days before consumption of a small dose. Question: which form of cocaine is better absorbed via oral ingestion, cocaine base or an acidic salt of cocaine? For example, would the cocaine in the tincture provide more powerful effects consumed orally from adding citric acid in order to potentially create cocaine citrate? Thanks.
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I'm curious...

Were these leaves from one of those imported tea products or did you use actual dried leaves directly from a cocoa bush(not a tea product)?

Chris
 
The powdered leaves were Novoandina imported from a well known online vendor normally used for tea.
 
Thank you. I think I'll try the same ethanol/150gram leaf mix you tried. Sounds interesting.

BTW, can anyone comment on the time of soaking? Does it really need several days, or will an hour or two cut it? I know for example with poppy extractions, beyond an hour is essentially pointless because of the extreme solubility of the active alkaloids, so I was wondering if this is also true for the coca tea leaf extracts?
 
if you are soaking coca in alcohol leave it for a few days otherwise you might not get all the cocaine out, whats the rush when the product will be much better?

when you make tea the cocaine comes out much quicker say 15 minutes...
 
In Peru, I put a Kilogram of leaves in 750ml of 50% liquor (Pisco) and found it to be better than cocaine. I let it soak for a day or so.

Vin Marin.
 
I procured the supplies, but have yet to get around to trying this. I'll report back on my experience, but I can't compare it to cocaine hcl or crack cocaine, as I have zero experience with those compounds.

Chris
 
perfectphase said:
The powdered leaves were Novoandina imported from a well known online vendor normally used for tea.
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Sis tried their extract enhanced powder recently and it didn't work. I think decocainized. Just a warning to people not to waste their money on this
 
copium7777 said:
Sis tried their extract enhanced powder recently and it didn't work. I think decocainized. Just a warning to people not to waste their money on this
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Their stuff is hit or miss. Some of it sucks others have plenty alkaloids. Last batch made me sick.

Though i shouldn't have commented mods please delete source name.


Also warning on making concentrated cocaine tinctures, once i made a highly concentrated coca tinctures with 151 proof alcohol that i evaporated down into an extremely dark green solution that was almost black and took a half shot. I estimate the amount i took had at very least 80-90mg of cocaine and after taking the shot my throat and esophagus because so intensely numb i had trouble breathing and felt like i was going to choke. Then the cocaine hit and make me even more panicky about it. Not fun. Apparently this can happen if you bite a benzonatate cough suppressant capsule.

Avoid drinking large amounts of strong coca tinctures it was not fun and actually pretty scary. Cocaine is a strong local anesthetic.
 
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