And the drugs don't work...

LabmouseTHX1138

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"To be fair, my doctor thinks he's doing the right thing even though he isn't because he doesn't perceive things the way I do..."

So in 2004 they decided I was a 'danger to society' having suffered from Bipolar or Scitzoaffective disorder since 2000 and because I refused to take my Olanazpine and Lorazepam they put me on the depot; Clopixol to begin with then when I complained that I could not think properly he changed the medication to Risperdone Consta intramuscular. It was around this time after 6 months in hospital when I stopped going to the pub so I don't know when it happened exactly but for some reason my experience of cannabis, alcohol and nicotine changed drastically.

I could no longer get stoned like before, alcohol had no effect and likewise cigarettes no longer gave me a rush in the morning.

I eventually realised through trial and error that Cannabis gave me a light stimulant effect if I abstained from it for longer than four days. If I kept on smoking it tolerance builds up after 5 hours and it no longer gave me anything. Also my apatite seemed to be gone and I no longer felt hungry. I could go for long periods of time without eating and I no longer had stomach pangs of hunger.

When I realised these things and after some Google research I told my doctor that I believed I had been given an injection or implanted Rimonabant the experimental compound and anti cannabis drug that is to be used as a slimming pill but still has not yet been certified by the FDA.
He said I was suffering from delusions and that this had not been done.

A few years later and as a result of some internet research I self diagnosed myself with adult ADHD. I can remember what my life was like at school, how I was always having problems concentrating and how these problems have not entirely gone away yet. So I ordered some Ritalin(Methylphenidate) off the internet at great expense only to discover that it came from Pakistan and tried using it at a low dose (I think this was 10mg - a single tablet anyway). I found that I could write more fluidly and reading speeds increased. (I read at a slow pace about the same speed as if I were reading aloud). I wrote about three poems and I started a short story.

When my Community Psychiatric Nurse and Key Worker came round to visit they found me talking to them more fluidly and rapidly, which was a sharp transition from the Nueroleptically induced slow and indecisive talk they had grown accustomed to. So I had to go see the doc. He said I was high and that me writing the poetry and short story sounded like 'too much activity'! So I went to hospital escorted by the police this time as I had refused to go back to hospital on the grounds that I was not high. (I was still on Section3 of the Mental Health Act so they can do that no problem).

When I got out of hospital I eagerly went back to my Ritalin but I found that Amphetamines purchased off the street were much better quality than they had been when I used to use them in the early nineties, so I started using Amphetamines 50-100mg every other day and in 2006 I wrote a book, and completed half a dozen short stories. Also, in the period before I started writing fictional stories I wrote lots of music on my computer using Cubase. In all I had embarked on producing a lot of creative works during this period, and this work is largely attributable to Amphetamine use.

But then I was high again, and I spent a lot of money travelling to London and staying at fancy hotels which were beyond my credit facility. The doctor sent me back to hospital and once again I was escorted by the police. They decided to put me on another depot injection; this time it was Modecate, another old style Neuroleptic. After 5 months in hospital I returned home eager to get on with some music making, but guess what? The Amphetamines no longer worked! And neither did caffiene for that matter. And when I got round to trying them again: Ecstasy and Cocaine.

Other Drugs that no longer work for me since being put on Modecate include Amyl Nitrate, Benzodiazapines and Olanzapine (Diminished effect) and these are the drugs I know about. I have tried smoking opium and this has no effect. I have not tried Crack Cocaine or Heroin but can assume that they will also have no effect on me!

Since then I have now been put onto Flupentixol intramuscular because I refuse to take my pills and I am on this Nueroleptic now.

My questions are quite simple even though the problem is complex;
How could these Neuroleptics have caused permanent brain damage to me, given that my problem has not previously been documented, or if it has the information is not in the public domain, so essentially this is not supposed to happen.

My doctor seems unworried about my problem, he thinks it is not a problem and that, to stop me from getting high (and creative) again I need to take the Flupentixol all the time and for the rest of my life.

I am on a Community Treatment Order at the moment, and this is essentially the same law as Section 3 of the Mental Health Act, and means that at any time should he wish it my doctor can use the police to recall me to hospital. If I refuse treatment he will do this immediately.

I have been assaulted by Police before when I refused to go back to hospital. When I said I did not wish to go with them they pushed me over in the street and into a darkened alleyway where they proceeded to handcuff me on the ground and spray PAVA (Pepper Spray) into my face and eyes.

What I would like to do is get off of this CTO so that I can decide what drugs I take and I would like to get stoned again. I wanna get drunk to drown my sorrows but I cannot. I want to write another book using Amphetamines to aid in my neurocognition but I can no longer do this because of some drugs that my doctor forced me to take against my will. I want to sue the NHS or the makers of these disgusting torture drugs but I cant find a Lawyer who will take up the case.

Sorry I'm ranting on, I will cut it short now.
Can anyone shed some light on my problem, on how these permanent anti-drug effects could be achieved? Do you or anyone you know have a similar experience. Can you explain what has happened to my Central Nervous System?
 
Why won't someone reply or move this thread? Am I being paranoid again? I don't feel paranoid, but I still feel shunned by your community. Is this because you can't imagine life without drugs - I'm not after your pity I need your help in determining a mode of action for the neuroleptics I have been poisoned with. How can a neuroleptic stop dopamine release even after its use has been discontinued?
 
weird man...

id say this belongs in the dark side...

but who am i to guess...

May I ask the title of your book btw? (assuming its published)
 
Homeless ---> TDS

Sorry Labmouse, I promise we werent trying to ignore this. Sometimes some of the longer posts like this get overlooked "its sort of long, I'll read it and get back to it later" and then something else comes up or for whatever reason it just falls to the bottom of the page. I think this just happened to be one of those unlucky ones. We'll try not to let it happen again in the future. Please dont let that discourage you or feel shunned. We are happy to have you here. :)
 
Homeless ---> TDS

Sorry Labmouse, I promise we werent trying to ignore this. Sometimes some of the longer posts like this get overlooked "its sort of long, I'll read it and get back to it later" and then something else comes up or for whatever reason it just falls to the bottom of the page. I think this just happened to be one of those unlucky ones. We'll try not to let it happen again in the future. Please dont let that discourage you or feel shunned. We are happy to have you here. :)

^^^

This.

I read your post and think it warrants a lengthy reply but I have a couple of things I need to take care of this morning before I can give it the time and attention it deserves.
 
A story like this fills me with dread for the coming days in America of increased integration of health care into government. Drug consumption at gunpoint to deaden the intellect and emotion of anyone the unified establishment (as opposed to the currently disjointed American establishment) deems intolerable ...

"To be fair, my doctor thinks he's doing the right thing even though he isn't because he doesn't perceive things the way I do..."

So in 2004 they decided I was a 'danger to society' having suffered from Bipolar or Scitzoaffective disorder since 2000 and because I refused to take my Olanazpine and Lorazepam they put me on the depot; Clopixol to begin with then when I complained that I could not think properly he changed the medication to Risperdone Consta intramuscular. It was around this time after 6 months in hospital when I stopped going to the pub so I don't know when it happened exactly but for some reason my experience of cannabis, alcohol and nicotine changed drastically.

I could no longer get stoned like before, alcohol had no effect and likewise cigarettes no longer gave me a rush in the morning.

I eventually realised through trial and error that Cannabis gave me a light stimulant effect if I abstained from it for longer than four days. If I kept on smoking it tolerance builds up after 5 hours and it no longer gave me anything. Also my apatite seemed to be gone and I no longer felt hungry. I could go for long periods of time without eating and I no longer had stomach pangs of hunger.

When I realised these things and after some Google research I told my doctor that I believed I had been given an injection or implanted Rimonabant the experimental compound and anti cannabis drug that is to be used as a slimming pill but still has not yet been certified by the FDA.
He said I was suffering from delusions and that this had not been done.

A few years later and as a result of some internet research I self diagnosed myself with adult ADHD. I can remember what my life was like at school, how I was always having problems concentrating and how these problems have not entirely gone away yet. So I ordered some Ritalin(Methylphenidate) off the internet at great expense only to discover that it came from Pakistan and tried using it at a low dose (I think this was 10mg - a single tablet anyway). I found that I could write more fluidly and reading speeds increased. (I read at a slow pace about the same speed as if I were reading aloud). I wrote about three poems and I started a short story.

When my Community Psychiatric Nurse and Key Worker came round to visit they found me talking to them more fluidly and rapidly, which was a sharp transition from the Nueroleptically induced slow and indecisive talk they had grown accustomed to. So I had to go see the doc. He said I was high and that me writing the poetry and short story sounded like 'too much activity'! So I went to hospital escorted by the police this time as I had refused to go back to hospital on the grounds that I was not high. (I was still on Section3 of the Mental Health Act so they can do that no problem).

When I got out of hospital I eagerly went back to my Ritalin but I found that Amphetamines purchased off the street were much better quality than they had been when I used to use them in the early nineties, so I started using Amphetamines 50-100mg every other day and in 2006 I wrote a book, and completed half a dozen short stories. Also, in the period before I started writing fictional stories I wrote lots of music on my computer using Cubase. In all I had embarked on producing a lot of creative works during this period, and this work is largely attributable to Amphetamine use.

But then I was high again, and I spent a lot of money travelling to London and staying at fancy hotels which were beyond my credit facility. The doctor sent me back to hospital and once again I was escorted by the police. They decided to put me on another depot injection; this time it was Modecate, another old style Neuroleptic. After 5 months in hospital I returned home eager to get on with some music making, but guess what? The Amphetamines no longer worked! And neither did caffiene for that matter. And when I got round to trying them again: Ecstasy and Cocaine.

Other Drugs that no longer work for me since being put on Modecate include Amyl Nitrate, Benzodiazapines and Olanzapine (Diminished effect) and these are the drugs I know about. I have tried smoking opium and this has no effect. I have not tried Crack Cocaine or Heroin but can assume that they will also have no effect on me!

Since then I have now been put onto Flupentixol intramuscular because I refuse to take my pills and I am on this Nueroleptic now.

My questions are quite simple even though the problem is complex;
How could these Neuroleptics have caused permanent brain damage to me, given that my problem has not previously been documented, or if it has the information is not in the public domain, so essentially this is not supposed to happen.

My doctor seems unworried about my problem, he thinks it is not a problem and that, to stop me from getting high (and creative) again I need to take the Flupentixol all the time and for the rest of my life.

I am on a Community Treatment Order at the moment, and this is essentially the same law as Section 3 of the Mental Health Act, and means that at any time should he wish it my doctor can use the police to recall me to hospital. If I refuse treatment he will do this immediately.

I have been assaulted by Police before when I refused to go back to hospital. When I said I did not wish to go with them they pushed me over in the street and into a darkened alleyway where they proceeded to handcuff me on the ground and spray PAVA (Pepper Spray) into my face and eyes.

What I would like to do is get off of this CTO so that I can decide what drugs I take and I would like to get stoned again. I wanna get drunk to drown my sorrows but I cannot. I want to write another book using Amphetamines to aid in my neurocognition but I can no longer do this because of some drugs that my doctor forced me to take against my will. I want to sue the NHS or the makers of these disgusting torture drugs but I cant find a Lawyer who will take up the case.

Sorry I'm ranting on, I will cut it short now.
Can anyone shed some light on my problem, on how these permanent anti-drug effects could be achieved? Do you or anyone you know have a similar experience. Can you explain what has happened to my Central Nervous System?
 
A story like this fills me with dread for the coming days in America of increased integration of health care into government. Drug consumption at gunpoint to deaden the intellect and emotion of anyone the unified establishment (as opposed to the currently disjointed American establishment) deems intolerable ...

Yes it certainly does appear that the US is adopting a similar policy to the UK with regard to healthcare.
 
weird man...

id say this belongs in the dark side...

but who am i to guess...

May I ask the title of your book btw? (assuming its published)

It was called "Pandoras Box" a Scifi Comedy about subtle Alien invasion, also slightly autobiograpical. But its not published so you dont want to know the title, but I told you anyway!8o
 
Homeless ---> TDS

Sorry Labmouse, I promise we werent trying to ignore this. Sometimes some of the longer posts like this get overlooked "its sort of long, I'll read it and get back to it later" and then something else comes up or for whatever reason it just falls to the bottom of the page. I think this just happened to be one of those unlucky ones. We'll try not to let it happen again in the future. Please dont let that discourage you or feel shunned. We are happy to have you here. :)

I wish there was a quick and easy way to combine quotes into one post Im too lazy to open another browser window and copy and paste!

Np thanks for moving the post. BTW Would just like to assure you I'm not considering suicide seing as that seems to be the main topic of conversatin on TDS
 
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I wish there was a quick and easy way to combine quotes into one post Im too lazy to open another browser window and copy and paste!

There is, actually lol its that little "+ thing next to "quote" if you click the + on all the posts you want to quote, then "quote" for the final one, they'll all appear in one box for you :)
 
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