Seroquel question

[PsiloSubNaut]

^ Your above posts only solidify the prior comments about this drug having no recreational value and only being good for the treatment of mental illness or use as a sleeping aid.

I am also lead to believe that you don't have any idea as to what 'recreational value' even means when you post "for me it does have some recreational value in a sense because i tend to sometimes stay awake for 48 hours+ on benzo;s opiates and weed and even to the point of feeling mentally and physically fucked, and i still find it hard to sleep. it's a good feeling when you go to bed knowing you're going to sleep."

In essence, what you write above explains that the drugs that you normally use to get high (your recreational drugs) are benzo's/opiates/weed. The drug you use to sleep is seroquel and therefor it is not recreational. You do not take this drug for the high like you do with the others. You only use it to knock yourself out like every one else posting in this thread, hence the term non-recreational.

Recreation is any activity performed during one's leisure or free time. Recreational activities are often done for amusement, enjoyment or pleasure and are considered to be 'fun'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recreation

Please think before you post

 

[Sublimit]

^ Your above posts only solidify the prior comments about this drug having no recreational value and only being good for the treatment of mental illness or use as a sleeping aid.

I am also lead to believe that you don't have any idea as to what 'recreational value' even means when you post

In essence, what you write above explains that the drugs that you normally use to get high (your recreational drugs) are benzo's/opiates/weed. The drug you use to sleep is seroquel and therefor it is not recreational. You do not take this drug for the high like you do with the others. You only use it to knock yourself out like every one else posting in this thread, hence the term non-recreational.


Please think before you post

ok then let me lead you to believe that i am currently sitting at my desk, with a big fresh cup of Chai latte, which is really nice btw, and have consumed 2 cones and 200mg of seroquel within the last 30 mins.

Did you even read my post you quoted me on? you've lost your rag telling me to think before i post and when you've forgotten to take on board the fact that i used it to synergise with a bit of heroin? didn't i say it gave me a nice subtle nod? have i done anything wrong?

i've felt quite nice since it's came on, but dazed on the action you've taken. To quote recreation isn't subtle like you're trying to make it out to be with the smile at the end. irony is hidden behind it, more and more since my 4th experience with seroquel has fully come on and has awoken the buprenorphine that i had a few hours ago.

the point you're not taking into consideration is that this is a forum and i said i had only a few experiences with it and shared each one. and now this one, this is a forum where we share knowledge and i don't see how you'd be so formal and i;m sorry to say, but rude message of future behaviour over a non issue. If you had read that i have had rec experience with it, you wouldn't have been so quick to ridicule me in a thread about seroquel

I don't know what else to say really. I'm thinking i'm going to play oblivion for an hour as the serOquel has given me recreational value. I am currently high and not wanting to go to bed

 

[slowpoke1967]

for all that i have read, im very surprized as i was givena 200 mg starting dose, and just fell asleep after about an hour or so, then got up after about4 or 5 hours ,then did the same thing again with 200mg,
Now i can take 600 or even up to 800 mgs and still not sleep at times, so tolerance tefinatly plays into it.
The friends of mine that took a 200 mg pill from me all fell asleep and slept in, a couple had hangovers ...

 

[slowpoke1967]

also i will say that my doctor has told me that at lower doses seroquel actually has better sleep qualities .......dont ask me why but along with my reg 400 to 600mg a day i also get a bottle of 120 25 mg pills per month incase i run out of my benzos ,there supposed to help if yer out ,though i found that they didnt which is why i have a few bottles of the 25s lying around...

 

[shienar]

Also it has great value for trippers, had a friend lose his mind and 100 mgs killed the trip. Only thing is a. its really hard to get someone in a paranoid bad trip to eat a tablet, b. you may have to carry them to bed.

 

[Mr. Squiggle!]

Seroquel is an anti-psychotic/knockout drop. Case closed, yo. Also, shiener, I don't believe that Seroquel should be used to kill the trip, but rather a benzodiazepine or thorazine.

 

[Sublimit]

Also it has great value for trippers, had a friend lose his mind and 100 mgs killed the trip. Only thing is a. its really hard to get someone in a paranoid bad trip to eat a tablet, b. you may have to carry them to bed.

i remeber one of my first bad trips on acid.... i was having a anxiety attack after 10hours of solid tripping, i was about to call an ambulance and my friend gave me a 2mg brick of xanax and said this willl help.

at the time i didn't know anything about benzo's and i was scared to take to tablet so we came to a comprise and i took half of the xanax and it took away all the anxiety almost instantly. we had close to 1000mics of acid that night/morning.

yeah since then i know a lot more about benzo's and i think the best ones are xanax and lorazapam. i will be taking acid in around 2 months and if necessary will try clonazepam. I know now that seroquel would be just as effective, if not more perhaps.... especially if one has a tolerance to benzo's. a benzo like midazolam has a similar HL to seroquel i think.... some combination that would be

a combination of a benzo and seroquel would make your trip come to a screaming halt i'd imagine.


i know seroquels HL is short 3-4 hours i think? anyway i must have gone to bed around 3 hours after taking it and i was getting all sorts of CEV's before i fell asleep. it was like a photo album on slide show x100 speed. just random vivd images, one after the other so qick but i could see every image clear. it was rather pleasant actually, similar to my first ever mirtazapine rec experience with 90mg but not as profound and waaay more sedation with mirtazapine, except that mirtazapine at any dose doesn't give me any sedation since the first few times i used it.

does one build up a tolerance to seroquel as quick as a benzo? i've heard that it is the case. I can see seroquel coming very handy for me to use 1 to 2 times a week FOR SLEEP as i have a sleeping problem. I had 12 hours sleep last night with 200mg of seroquel and i noticed the people and from what ive read that it will leave one drowsy throughout the next day, but today i woke up feeling so fucked and drowsy, but forced myself out of bed and had a coffee and feel great now and refreshed.

Is the drowsiness the day after effecting everyone with no tolerance to seroquel? i have noticed it pretty bad the other day but to day it was a lot better and that was the last of the seroquel that was given to me off a whim from a guy i met.... he says he's got bucket loads at home. this is good because i don't want it prescribed and to take it every day as i'm already an mirtazipine and don't want a tolerance to seroquel. I know i could get my gp to add it to my regime and i'd get him to indicated it for sleep which i assume is common for a GP to do i some cases. Only benzo that has made me feel like shit the day after was a non benzo....

 

[Sublimit]

Seroquel is an anti-psychotic/knockout drop. Case closed, yo. Also, shiener, I don't believe that Seroquel should be used to kill the trip, but rather a benzodiazepine or thorazine.

I disagree. it has recreational value, which i've experienced. quite profound rec value in fact if the synergism with the right amount of seroquel/insert other drugs here has been carefully combined. So the case is not closed. the case is subjective. fact. everyone is different, just because what you precieve it to be doesn't make it so from another's perspective and or experiences.

Have you used seroquel to end a trip before?

 

[Mr. Squiggle!]

Hey dude, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I know the case is still open as to whether or not seroquel has any recreational value (Check out Eminem's Relapse album...he drops the Seroquel bomb when his conversing with Britney).

The fact that I've never tried Seroquel before due to it's outrageous price, as I'm not schizophrenic/sufferer of an episode of acute mania associated with bipolar I disorder.

and im also not too keen on developing neuroleptic malignant syndrome (sp?)

But I believe that seroquel is used in prisons a fuckload.

everyone is beautiful in there own little way.

 

[Sublimit]

Hey dude, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. .

Exactly and it's why i couldn't understand why a mod would feel the need to oppress this very concept of being entitled to an opinion on a public forum and justified it by putting my words out of context relative to my post.

arn't they under the PBS? if its indicated for something else then it would be a private script. but i don't see it being expensive. what would you call expensive? i know they have next to no value on the street.

Yah its action on dopamine alone is enough reason for me to only use it vary scarcely. I think once a week wouldn't hurt if it was for sleep, but i've been thinking of some melatonin for long term sleep regulation

 

[drug_mentor]

Mr Squiggle Eminem doesn't talk about using seroquel recreationally though, he just says he picked up her script then talks about sharing his valium with her, it is on the track 'Same song and dance' I am pretty sure.

I know a few people that take seroquel "recreationally" and I find it fucking hilarious myself. They are all meth lovers who are not educated on drug use, strangely the one who likes seroquel the most (describes it as the "kouta shit") described morphine as shit. Guy has no clue...

I tried a low dose of seroquel with codeine once to increase my nod, I can't say I would do it again as it wasn't really more pleasant or recreational.

Sublimit everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and I certainly don't have a problem with people who find recreation in seroquel, I have to say though that your own posts reveal you were using seroquel with other substances for a recreational effect and this is quite a different story from the drug being recreational itself in my view. For example, I take sedating antihistamines with codeine, partially to increase my high, I would NEVER state that doxylamine succinate or promethazine were recreational, yet when thrown in the mix with some other drugs they can enhance the recreational effect. In my personal opinion, if a drug has no recreational value on its own, then it is not a recreational drug.

 

[mav3rick]

I use (used to use) seroquel to knock myself out after a long speed binge.. I'm talking like 4-5 days straight. I'll pop about 100mg seroquel and it knocks me out but I don't actually feel rested or particularly good the next day, at all.. It turns me into a zombie and I feel way worse and just lethargic and bleh..

I can't see it being recreational, well I can, but not fun recreational.. And I think if I did it often enough it'd turn me into a full-blown zombieeeeee! *brainsssss om nom*

I've had friends use it to lessen the effects of a bad trip but it never stops it.. They do just knock the fuck out and wake up feeling worse, haha..

If you have a health care card thingy, you can get it on the cheapcheap, my friend who supplied me was a bipolar dude so he always had a steady supply and said they cost him like $5..

Mav

 

[sonic_reality]

I've had seroquel shoved down my throat to end a trip before. it wasn't a bad trip(for me anyways), but i think i was getting a little too out of hand for the people trying to look after me. not being violent or anything, more getting annoyed that they weren't taking their clothes off, hence they were holding back the evolution of the human consciousness, which in my mind at the time, required the devolution of our clothes and inhibitions. hehe this was my christ consciousness trip... an incredible journey!!

but being ripped from such an amazing state so suddenly(due to the seroquel), turned out to be one of the most confusing and nasty experiences i think i have ever had to deal with, basically the complete opposite of the amazing place i was just in. i ended up with massive depression that lasted quite a few months after the trip. i put this down to the fact that i wasn't able to fully understand what had happened to me because i was so suddenly ripped from one consciousness back into this one. i felt(and still do) that it was almost like a part of me was left behind in that other dimension, like i lost apart of myself somewhere along the incredibly quick road back from that consciousness to this one! there just simply wasn't enough time to gather all of myself before i was ripped about the by seroquel!!

i would have much preferred a benzo shoved down my throat to bring me out... at least then it would be a nice slow cruise back out of that place, instead of the sudden and painful drop out of the heavens that i experienced!!

but that is just my personal experience. i assume it would be quite different if it was a really bad death trip(which is have also gone through before), i would want to be out of that place as quickly as i possibly could. but because i was in the most blissful and incredible place i had ever been(christ/messiah consciousness), and because my mind was spread so far and wide across many different dimensions, that when the seroquel kicked in, i was not able to regather my mind fully in time before falling back to earth!!

 

[sonic_reality]

Having said that tho, I just recalled one other time where I actually decided to take a seroquel to bring me out of a trip. I was tripping alone and things were starting to get pretty bad, so made the choice to down a quel, after 4 Valium did nothing to relieve the trip. The seroquel knocked me out cold, woke up the next morning feeling a whole lot better for taking it, rather than going into the dungeons of a bad trip alone!

I suppose maybe the fact that I consciously chose to have it, instead of having it forced on me was the difference between a time seroquel saved my ass, and a time when it just made things worse?!

But yeh, I agree that it definitely(to me anyways) has no recreational value!

 

[puckboy]

Seroquel is a dopamine, serotonin and adrenergic antagonist. It is also considered an anticholinergic drug as well as an antihistamine.

Definitely not recreational at all, no anti-psychotics are. But it's very helpful as a 'tool' to come down off dopamine, serotonin and norepinephrine releasing stimulants like meth. It's also useful, again as a 'tool' to be used in the short-term for a heavy/daily cannabis smoker that wants to quit/take a break to use each night to ease the w/d effects (insomnia, loss of appetite and nausea), things that Seroquel helps with.

But I believe that seroquel is used in prisons a fuckload.

I've heard that too, not surprising really considering the amount of mentally ill people in our prison systems. Not to mention if you were in prison, you'd probably rather be knocked out asleep than awake and aware of your predicament.

 

[Sublimit]

Sublimit everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and I certainly don't have a problem with people who find recreation in seroquel, I have to say though that your own posts reveal you were using seroquel with other substances for a recreational effect and this is quite a different story from the drug being recreational itself in my view. For example, I take sedating antihistamines with codeine, partially to increase my high, I would NEVER state that doxylamine succinate or promethazine were recreational, yet when thrown in the mix with some other drugs they can enhance the recreational effect. In my personal opinion, if a drug has no recreational value on its own, then it is not a recreational drug.

very good point, and it makes perfect sense. seroquel has a more profound effect and i was getting CEV's and i don't think that was from any other medication i was on... i posted and you must of read it. but anyway i found the visuals to be quite interesting and therefore i would say there was some rec value solely from the seroquel. I'm into psychedelics so thats just my opinion. this is what i said if you missed it...

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i know seroquels HL is short 3-4 hours i think? anyway i must have gone to bed around 3 hours after taking it and i was getting all sorts of CEV's before i fell asleep. it was like a photo album on slide show x100 speed. just random vivd images, one after the other so qick but i could see every image clear. it was rather pleasant actually, similar to my first ever mirtazapine rec experience with 90mg but not as profound and waaay more sedation with mirtazapine, except that mirtazapine at any dose doesn't give me any sedation since the first few times i used it.

Seroquel is a dopamine, serotonin and adrenergic antagonist. It is also considered an anticholinergic drug as well as an antihistamine.

Definitely not recreational at all, no anti-psychotics are. But it's very helpful as a 'tool' to come down off dopamine, serotonin and norepinephrine releasing stimulants like meth. It's also useful, again as a 'tool' to be used in the short-term for a heavy/daily cannabis smoker that wants to quit/take a break to use each night to ease the w/d effects (insomnia, loss of appetite and nausea), things that Seroquel helps with.

you see, i just don't get how you could state that as 'fact' by bolding the text you have.

ignorant for lack of cant be fucked of thinking of a better word.

Have you personally taken every anti psychotic available? no you haven't. thats a fact. sorry but you came across a bit pretentious and after PsiloSubNaut came riding in on his high horse i guess i feel the need to be defensive about common sense...ie something thats subjective(on a forum) and the difference relative to an actual statement of fact.

anyway thats better getting that out of the way because there will be no seroquel to get me to sleep tonight, instead i have one 7.5 mg of zopiclone (regrets metallic taste tomorrow and general shite feeling.... clonaz HL should take care of that) and 6mg of clonazepam.... i'll probably wont sleep as i will have recreational value, but the NA meeting in St Kilda is more important, which means i gotta get up in 8 hours... lets dose now shall we muhahah

any drug can be used as a tool, some in more ways than others,

Sublimit

 

[footscrazy]

I have a good friend prescribed a high dose of seroquel for mania. She used to find them recreational and would snort them before/while out. I tried one with her one time at a club in the city and the sleepyness was actually painful; what a bad idea that was

I certainly don't find them recreational but I don't rule out the possibility that some people can - I think the recreational part of drug use is often due in big part to relief - and perhaps for someone like my friend the relief of her manic symptoms makes this drug quite pleasurable.

 

[MakersTable]

I've heard the thing about lower doses being more effective than higher doses for sleeping too.
And it can be recreational in a way, I mean have you ever combined alcohol with an antihistamine? It makes you (well me, anyway) way drunker and also fighting the tiredness at the same time leads to some sort of weird delirium.

 

[puckboy]

you see, i just don't get how you could state that as 'fact' by bolding the text you have.

ignorant for lack of cant be fucked of thinking of a better word.

Have you personally taken every anti psychotic available? no you haven't. thats a fact. sorry but you came across a bit pretentious and after PsiloSubNaut came riding in on his high horse i guess i feel the need to be defensive about common sense...ie something thats subjective(on a forum) and the difference relative to an actual statement of fact.

anyway thats better getting that out of the way because there will be no seroquel to get me to sleep tonight, instead i have one 7.5 mg of zopiclone (regrets metallic taste tomorrow and general shite feeling.... clonaz HL should take care of that) and 6mg of clonazepam.... i'll probably wont sleep as i will have recreational value, but the NA meeting in St Kilda is more important, which means i gotta get up in 8 hours... lets dose now shall we muhahah

any drug can be used as a tool, some in more ways than others,

Sublimit

Sorry my bold text offended. I was on Seroquel XR and IR daily for around 8 months, Invega for a while before that and was on Zyprexa for a while before that again. No, thats hardly all the antipsychotics out there, you're right. I don't take them anymore though because I really hated what happened after using them for a while. Anti-psychs are heavy-duty psychiatric drugs that have a host of negative side effects and should only really be taken by people with psychotic illnesses, they're not a happy pill.

Whatever though, thats just my opinion, I'm going to go snort some prozac 8)

 

[Mr. Squiggle!]

Exactly and it's why i couldn't understand why a mod would feel the need to oppress this very concept of being entitled to an opinion on a public forum and justified it by putting my words out of context relative to my post.

arn't they under the PBS? if its indicated for something else then it would be a private script. but i don't see it being expensive. what would you call expensive? i know they have next to no value on the street.

Yah its action on dopamine alone is enough reason for me to only use it vary scarcely. I think once a week wouldn't hurt if it was for sleep, but i've been thinking of some melatonin for long term sleep regulation

Yeah dude, they're available on the PBS, for 3 reasons. 1. Schizophrenia. 2. Bipolar disorder, used in conjunction with Lithium. 3. Bi-polar disorder. If you're poor like me, well then they can cost the Concession Card rate [snip].