Chances of ODing again?

[xK-la]

I know this is probably a really stupid question to ask, but I don't entirely trust doctors, I feel that they believe in the media and that we are all individuals and that the doctor is trying to "scare" me straight.

I will start from the beginning, about 3 weeks ago I went to Defqon. 1 Australia and the night before I had sat up all night doing line after line of Amphetamines and just before the event I took one ecstasy tablet and took 2 more throughout the day. I was fine all night and when I got home I went straight to bed, this was about 12 AM roughly; at 3 AM I woke up with a vivid nightmare that I was going to be raped and I couldn't get back to sleep so my mum gave me 25 mg of Seroquel.
From then on I was throwing up non stop from then on, long story short I was in and out of sleep due to vivid nightmares and throwing up. I don't remember too much of it but on the Monday, a day and a half later, my parents rang the ambulance and most of this I was told later on; that the paramedics were talking to me and I was not responding, my heart rate was 157 bpm, the doctors couldn't find a bigger vein big enough and so they had to use my main artery, a canal tube to pump potasium into me as I had too much acid in my system, not enough water (despite drinking lots of water and no alcohol) and not enough potassium, I also had a central line into my neck.

Anyway, the doctor told me that they do not know what caused the OD but that I was very lucky to be alive and that I shouldn't ever do it again because I will die.

Now my main worry is, is that this was mostly with ecstasy and speed, but I have a bigger problem that my parents aren't aware of. I've been addicted to Methamphetamine for quite a few months now, and I want to stop but I have a war going on in my head and body that I'm fine and I've only just turned 18 and I've really just started my partying as an adult and I feel like I'm having fun and that my addiction isn't that bad yet although I must admit the last few times that I have used it, haven't been that much fun.
I try to quit but usually around the 3-4 week mark its the hardest for me and I miss raving...

Anyway I've kind of gone a bit off track here but my real question is what would my chances of ODing be if I used meth on its own?

Also sorry if this doesn't make entire sense, I will try to clarify any questions you have if it makes no sense, I tend to not make much sense sometimes.

 

[paranoid android]

Noone can give you a answer that is 100% certain. I think if you are addicted to meth you should seek some ind of help really. That shit is very fucking addictive and ive known many people who have gone through hell trying to get off the stuff. So please seek some help for this.

In regards to your OD the seroquel may have had something to do with it. Seroquel can mess with your heart abit when mixed with amphetamines or stims in general so who knows really. Your doctor does sound like he was trying to scare you straight though. They seem to think that works instead of giving you the facts on why you culd die from the drugs you take which would scare you alot more.

In the future if you have to use be very fucking careful and don't mix your drugs.

 

[shadow_onion]

I know this is probably a really stupid question to ask, but I don't entirely trust doctors, I feel that they believe in the media and that we are all individuals and that the doctor is trying to "scare" me straight.

I will start from the beginning, about 3 weeks ago I went to Defqon. 1 Australia and the night before I had sat up all night doing line after line of Amphetamines and just before the event I took one ecstasy tablet and took 2 more throughout the day. I was fine all night and when I got home I went straight to bed, this was about 12 AM roughly; at 3 AM I woke up with a vivid nightmare that I was going to be raped and I couldn't get back to sleep so my mum gave me 25 mg of Seroquel.
From then on I was throwing up non stop from then on, long story short I was in and out of sleep due to vivid nightmares and throwing up. I don't remember too much of it but on the Monday, a day and a half later, my parents rang the ambulance and most of this I was told later on; that the paramedics were talking to me and I was not responding, my heart rate was 157 bpm, the doctors couldn't find a bigger vein big enough and so they had to use my main artery, a canal tube to pump potasium into me as I had too much acid in my system, not enough water (despite drinking lots of water and no alcohol) and not enough potassium, I also had a central line into my neck.

Anyway, the doctor told me that they do not know what caused the OD but that I was very lucky to be alive and that I shouldn't ever do it again because I will die.

Now my main worry is, is that this was mostly with ecstasy and speed, but I have a bigger problem that my parents aren't aware of. I've been addicted to Methamphetamine for quite a few months now, and I want to stop but I have a war going on in my head and body that I'm fine and I've only just turned 18 and I've really just started my partying as an adult and I feel like I'm having fun and that my addiction isn't that bad yet although I must admit the last few times that I have used it, haven't been that much fun.
I try to quit but usually around the 3-4 week mark its the hardest for me and I miss raving...

Anyway I've kind of gone a bit off track here but my real question is what would my chances of ODing be if I used meth on its own?

Also sorry if this doesn't make entire sense, I will try to clarify any questions you have if it makes no sense, I tend to not make much sense sometimes.

Since you're probably never getting pure meth and its always cut with god-knows-what, I'd think your chances would be pretty fucking high if you use for long enough.

 

[bagochina]

IME people that od usually seem prone to it. I am mainly speaking on opiate od's but almost everyone I have known that were hospitalized [or barely revived] have went on to od again and again. Some so many times it boggles the mind.

peace.
seedless

 

[Lolie]

I live in the same area as the OP. The pills and the powder could have been literally anything, especially the pills. The majority of people I know who are into ecstasy have had real problems getting hold of it in pill form this year and have been sourcing MDMA in other forms for the last 6 months.

And giving someone else Seroquel isn't a great idea - it's an anti-psychotic medication with all the risks which that entails, not an hypnotic.

If your potassium levels were fucked, you were at serious risk of cardiac arrest and whatever created the problem can most certainly happen again.

I don't know that there's much any of us can say to you if your perspective is that your "addiction isn't that bad yet". It doesn't have to be a certain level of bad to fuck you up or kill you. Even though your brush with disaster was very recent, you don't really sound deterred from it.

None of us can tell you it was a "one-off". Quite honestly, you sound like you've already decided it's an acceptable risk that comes with partying. It's a choice you're now making with your eyes wide open. At least be careful about your sources because it seems like a shitload of the pills and powders out there at the moment aren't what they're being sold as.

Deaths from methamphetamine alone are relatively uncommon but they do happen (my neighbour died from one last year) - and the worse your addiction becomes the more likely it is that your judgment will be impaired and that you'll score dubious substances from questionable sources.

Having said that, pretty much every 18 year old thinks they're invincible and immortal - you don't sound particularly scared of what could go wrong, despite your recent experience. Just be careful as the end of the HSC year rolls around. With Schoolies just around the corner there are going to be a lot of people seeking party drugs and a lot of people looking to take advantage of them by selling them shit.

 

[sam123]

For the last 3 years i shot meth smoked crack took all sorts of amphetamine pills and shoot cocaine all day every day. Of course ive had homies into the same shit and many suffered multiple od's and afer the 1st the second always seems to follow faster. THe fact is if you Do spend all day doing stimulants not eating and then not sleeping your body gets super fucked up. So the next time you smoke meth you may not OD but the logner u keep that shit the more fucked your body gets and the harder it is to stop. I think your OD is a serious warning sign. Some people take these signs seriously and others dont try and make the smart choice.

Seroquel most likely did have a key effect in your OD but either way be smart and try to stop your meth habbit before it gets too heavy. I loved meth and i coudlnt get enough but that shit brings you down pretty damn fast so just be careful.
Once you make it a lil while without it i promise youll be happier and fully see all the bullshit it did to you mind and body.

 

[xK-la]

Thanks everyone for your opinions.

I have decided that I should try to quit while I am ahead. The OD scared me quite a bit for about 3 weeks, but as the cravings for my addiction kicked in I started to think that the doctor was just trying to scare me straight and thought to myself if I took a break until my next event at the end of November I will be fine.
But I can't keep using if I go to these events... And I can't keep going to these events while I'm trying to quit.
It's either live doing something that is sending my life down a downward spiral or live with those that I really care about and see things the real way and not just in a false sense of invincibility.

I will be seeing my drug and alcohol counselor on Tuesday and will be telling her that I need to quit, not just for my sake, but for also the sake of my boyfriend, I can't risk being his enabler when he is so sick. Plus for the sake of tearing my family apart. I have a younger sister, I have to set a good example.