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Legal high products in the UK (branded pills and powders)

I had a 0.5g sample of kryptonite the other week,
split in 2 lines i snorted 1 & friend snorted the other
both felt nothing off it.
i do buy jolly often as its my RC of choice at the moment and has been for a while
(but still to try AMT so that may change)

the kryptonite was a darker green than than the jolly when the jolly was crushed and kryptonite was a much finer powder
but that could just be because it was ground better and had more colourant added
but i definately feel something from the same size of line if it was jolly even though snorting jolly is a waste as the hit is so much stronger and different when made into a drink.
i havent seen or tried madcat so cant compare.
 
I'm pretty sure madcat and jgg are the same product. Crushed up, they look the same, smell the same and have the same effect. Which is around 35% the experiance of meph but with 100% of the vasco issues because its very easy to polish 1.5-2g when 500-800mg was fine in previous product.

I heard they might be methedrone. But don't quote me on that. If that's the case, its still banned, and your running the same risk as meph for much less gain. Albeit there are actually UK suppliers which (currently) is meaning less scamming.
 
Please someone respond I need answers to this question about LU doves fast.

What my question is does the different generations mean. Does it mean something like in this sense. Doves and summer daze are generation 3.0 pills. and move and groove are the new generation. Or does generation mean that the formula's change for the doves or summer daze on the regular. Cause what Im trying to figure out is? Are the LU doves sold on the london underground website rite this minute the same LU Doves I was buying a few months ago back in april before the UK mephedrone ban. (by the way in live in the US not the UK).

Basically Im asking because this is what the story is.


From march of this year(2010) to the first week in april(2010) I was buying London Underground Doves from a website based in the UK. The package came in a little tiny folder with a blue backround a white dove and red hearts on it. Inside there was a tiny plastic bag stapled to it with two small white pills stamped with a dove. The first time I tried them I fell in love with them. I came to find out that they contained butylone and MCPP. Then Around the Middle of april they stopped selling them on that website based in the UK and I came to find out that they banned butylone in the UK. I was upset cause I loved them so much. But then I found a website that sold them in Ireland as well as the mitseez retro pills which I found out also contained butylone so I figured they would be just as good. And the day I happened to decide to order LU doves they were out of stock so I bought mitseez. Bad mistake had a terrible experience. The mitseez didn't seem to have that positive mindset push that the LU doves did which is something i needed because I don't handle anything even remotely psychedelic well. The mitseez actually made me trip a little like I was in the woods and it looked like the trees were shaking. Besides the point I didn't like the mitseez at all. So I searched all around the internet finding a place I could buy the LU doves and most of the things that came up were this thing called New LU Doves UK legal Formula and listen www._______.co.uk. I knew these couldn't be the same ones I was getting because the packaging looked differernt and I knew London Underground was based in new zealand and had a .co.nz ending for their website. Anyway finally the doves came back in stock on the ireland website so I was getting money together to buy them so excited blah blah blah. Boom next day their taken off the ban went into efffect in ireland. I was irate. I couldn't find the same LU doves newhere. So I havn't done them in months. A few days ago I go on the London Underground website with the .co.nz ending and I see they are actually selling the Doves with the same packaging in the picture the same packaging with the blue backround white dove and red hearts on it. I start getting excited. I realize they can ship them to the US I get more excited im like yes im gonna buy them. INow yesterday I'm about to order them and then the thought comes into my head why doesn't it say that they can't be shipped to the UK butylone is banned in the UK i thought. Im like fuck I gotta find out if its the same formula I was buying a few months ago in March and the beginning of April of this year how am I gonna do that. I have to find out cause I'm definately not taking some UK legal Formula cause I've heard horrendous things about the RC's coming out in the UK to replace the drugs covered by the mephedrone ban. Now everything looks exactly the same about these doves the picture of the packaging with the Blue backround White dove and red hearts and it does say can't be sold to New Zealand based customers. The London Underground website is the only places I can find that sells the ones that seem to look like the ones I used to get earlier this year. All the other websites have the picture of the thing i described earlier New LU Doves UK legal Formula www._______.co.uk which makes me optimistic that the ones sold on the London Underground new zealand based website are the ones I was getting before because they look the same the website isn't based in the uk like these fake doves ive been seeing on other websites. Im optimistic because this is the actual website of the company that made the LU doves I was doing earlier this year. Does anyone know if the Real London Underground Doves that are sold on their website formula has changed since March and April of this Year. Am I most likely going to get the doves I got in march or april seeing that everything looks the same and Im buying it from the official website? Or is there a new generation out? or does generation mean just new pills that came out like move and groove are a new generation? and Doves are the Generation before? or does generation mean the formula is changed? Does anyone know if the formula for the Official London Underground doves has changed since march and the beginning of april of this year? Please someone answer cause I don't wanna buy some new UK legal shit and get myself killed. And I really want the doves I had before again cause im so in love with them. And I have no choice but to use legal substances Like I use k2 and spice as well. I use legal substances because Im on probation and I need to pass drug tests. So please don't respond with a suggestion like why don't you just do real E? and if the Official London Underground doves have a new formula since march and the beginning of april of this year can someone whose tried them share their experience cause if their experience wasn't so bad I mite do it cause I wanna do an e like substance so bad.
 
Theres already a thread discussion these pills specifically in the European Discussion section / Branded pills and powders.

Ill move this over to that section for you as you will probably get a much quicker and informed response :).

One of the mods from that section will probably merge into the relevant thread.
 
Seeing as the "A3" report was taken down I've just gotten rid of the last 150 posts of derailment and shillfury - from this point onwards let us use this thread to discuss Branded Legal high products in the UK their doses, their effects, how to use them safely and nothing else.

Anymore tedious bullshit will be removed :)

Thanks guise
 
B2 Interesting new stim / entactogen

Just sampled a new branded RC tonight sold as B2. I did attempt a live report in the tr section not realising it wasnt allowed and rightly recieved the mod stick.

I became interested in b2 after reading several positive reports from trusted forum users stating how good this stuff is, and the interesting thing is that almost all reports suggested tha b2 was like a milder version of meph.

Now i know alot of people dont like meph and alot of people do, but like it or not a lot of ex meph users have been looking for an alternative myself included

Well im going to write up propper tr when i get chance but have to say i am on this tonight and its imo this is by far the nicest rc i have had since the ban, it is definitely similar to meph, in comparitive terms maybe 75-80% the strength. I bombed 300mg in rizla as other reporters suggested this was an ideal amount comparable to 200 - 250mg of meph - i agree


Has anyone else tried this or have any idea what it actuall is - i.dont like the idea of not being able to research a substance before i ingest it, although im not as careful as i should be and will give things a try after reading enough reports to suggest something is safe enough at least in the short term

I fear that this stuff is voing to be big and will probably be banned ( not exactly helping me posting about it here ) but i think that its important to find out what this chem is, whats known about it and what the risks are. So hopefully we can be armed with some life saving information before 15 year old kids are waxing of 2 gs a night and ending up in a and e.............
 
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Also worth noting that its not as feindish as meph so my grams going the paces and hopefully i wont be devestated when it runs out

This really is an enjoyable little chem, some nice social stimulation but its just as good to listen to people speak wheras with meph you just force your one way conversation onto anyone within eye contact distance to then end up feeling a complete tit the next day
 
Mullered said:
Just sampled a new branded RC tonight sold as B2. I did attempt a live report in the tr section not realising it wasnt allowed and rightly recieved the mod stick.

I became interested in b2 after reading several positive reports from trusted forum users stating how good this stuff is, and the interesting thing is that almost all reports suggested tha b2 was like a milder version of meph.

Now i know alot of people dont like meph and alot of people do, but like it or not a lot of ex meph users have been looking for an alternative myself included

Well im going to write up propper tr when i get chance but have to say i am on this tonight and its imo this is by far the nicest rc i have had since the ban, it is definitely similar to meph, in comparitive terms maybe 75-80% the strength. I bombed 300mg in rizla as other reporters suggested this was an ideal amount comparable to 200 - 250mg of meph - i agree


Has anyone else tried this or have any idea what it actuall is - i.dont like the idea of not being able to research a substance before i ingest it, although im not as careful as i should be and will give things a try after reading enough reports to suggest something is safe enough at least in the short term

I fear that this stuff is voing to be big and will probably be banned ( not exactly helping me posting about it here ) but i think that its important to find out what this chem is, whats known about it and what the risks are. So hopefully we can be armed with some life saving information before 15 year old kids are waxing of 2 gs a night and ending up in a and e.............
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Hate to say it mate, but there's a 99.9% chance it's already banned - i.e. i'd wager it's some kind of cathinone or more likely cut/poorly synth'd meph itself. If you like meph and don't mind the risk of a caution if caught with a small amount for personal use, then why not, but don't fool yourself into thinking its some kind of legal chemical, you can almost guarantee it isnt.

Edit, have you got an EZ test kit?
 
Mullered, is the stuff B2 or B2+ ?
Also, a bit of googeling revealed another forum in which a few threads discuss B2/B2+ and the main vendor which has B2+ doesn't have a clue what it is.
 
Skyline_GTR said:
Hate to say it mate, but there's a 99.9% chance it's already banned - i.e. i'd wager it's some kind of cathinone or more likely cut/poorly synth'd meph itself. If you like meph and don't mind the risk of a caution if caught with a small amount for personal use, then why not, but don't fool yourself into thinking its some kind of legal chemical, you can almost guarantee it isnt.

Edit, have you got an EZ test kit?
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Ive got a bottle of marquis solution

I tested a little and it fizzed, smoked but not much of a colour change, maybe a slight grey / brown tinge.

Theres a 25 page thread about this stuff on another furum but i dont think im allowed to post it here

Initially the vendor was selling a green powder as b2. This green powder was believed to be the same as some other green products on the market such as kryptonite and madcat but stronger. All of these products have been described as weaker versions of meph, with most reports stating that b2 is the best.

Earlier this week the b2 vendor claimed to have new improved synth that was not green but white, initially i think it was marketed as B2+ as he still had some of the original green B2 left.

I decided to purchase the new white B2+ but was gutted to read a couple of negetive reports shortly after making it out to be bunk. Not sure what to make of these reports but it sounds like all orders rrecieved over the last couple of days were the white stuff like mine and all the reports have been good since

At present no one seems to know what is in these new meph like compounds. It has been suggested that it could be prolintane but ive read up on prolintane and it doesnt seem ti fit the reports on these products. Its even been suggested that they are actually meph as they smell similar but if thats the case then there are a few high profile vendors taking big risks

In my opinion after testing i believe it isnt meph but something different that shares many similarities but is a little weaker. I really hope it does turn out to be legal as its by far the best chem ive had since the ban, and a lot nicer and better value for money than 6-APB
 
Mullered said:
Ive got a bottle of marquis solution

I tested a little and it fizzed, smoked but not much of a colour change, maybe a slight grey / brown tinge.

Theres a 25 page thread about this stuff on another furum but i dont think im allowed to post it here

Initially the vendor was selling a green powder as b2. This green powder was believed to be the same as some other green products on the market such as kryptonite and madcat but stronger. All of these products have been described as weaker versions of meph, with most reports stating that b2 is the best.

Earlier this week the b2 vendor claimed to have new improved synth that was not green but white, initially i think it was marketed as B2+ as he still had some of the original green B2 left.

I decided to purchase the new white B2+ but was gutted to read a couple of negetive reports shortly after making it out to be bunk. Not sure what to make of these reports but it sounds like all orders rrecieved over the last couple of days were the white stuff like mine and all the reports have been good since

At present no one seems to know what is in these new meph like compounds. It has been suggested that it could be prolintane but ive read up on prolintane and it doesnt seem ti fit the reports on these products. Its even been suggested that they are actually meph as they smell similar but if thats the case then there are a few high profile vendors taking big risks

In my opinion after testing i believe it isnt meph but something different that shares many similarities but is a little weaker. I really hope it does turn out to be legal as its by far the best chem ive had since the ban, and a lot nicer and better value for money than 6-APB
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I dont think its a case of them taking big risks knowingly, I suspect many are too stupid or gullible to realise that the likes of eric are taking the piss out of them and selling them cathinones under names like E2, E3, A1, A2, B2 and such nonsense.

These vendors are too daft to even come up with non-dumb sounding names - JGG, Mad Cat etc, let alone have the brains to dream up novel stimulants. If it has that meph-esq smell and gives meph-esq effects, albeit slightly weaker, then chances are its meph or a similar cathinone, maybe 4-mec or something like that. Selling cathinones under the guise of brand names since the ban in April isnt exactly new, its been going on ever since, so it wouldn't be a massive surpise if that was the case here as well.
 
Skyline_GTR said:
I dont think its a case of them taking big risks knowingly, I suspect many are too stupid or gullible to realise that the likes of eric are taking the piss out of them and selling them cathinones under names like E2, E3, A1, A2, B2 and such nonsense.

These vendors are too daft to even come up with non-dumb sounding names - JGG, Mad Cat etc, let alone have the brains to dream up novel stimulants. If it has that meph-esq smell and gives meph-esq effects, albeit slightly weaker, then chances are its meph or a similar cathinone, maybe 4-mec or something like that. Selling cathinones under the guise of brand names since the ban in April isnt exactly new, its been going on ever since, so it wouldn't be a massive surpise if that was the case here as well.
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Yes I did consider the possibility of this being an eric creation with a name like B2. I have also noticed today that the palms of my hands hands smell just like they do after a mephedrone session so you could be right Skyline

Does the fizzing, smoking marquis result fit in with it being a cathinone?
 
I hope it isn't mephedrone, he is being reviewed by alertpay or something to ensure what he is doing is legal. I really want some of this.
 
Skyline_GTR said:
^ no colour change and fizz fits mephedrone to a tee according to this very useful thread:

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=512598

(scroll to the bottom of the first image for the written description)
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Does sound similar, however it was the smoking that suprised me as i' ve only tested a few things and never seen it smoke before. The chap who tested the mephedrone didnt mention any smoke but i guess the lighting conditions at the time of his test may have effected the visibility of any smoke
 
Some people reckon "B2" might be short for "Bubbles v2", which is being sold by another site, anyone know anything about this?
 
goku4ever said:
Some people reckon "B2" might be short for "Bubbles v2", which is being sold by another site, anyone know anything about this?
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I think it was suggested because of the similar name. Not seen any reports on bubbles v2 yet but i guess as they became availabe at the same time as the new B2 synth its possible they could be the same
 
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