1) Who ask to try self medicate drugs ??????????????????????
2) Therapy is pure shit for SAD, you absolutely have nothing knowledge about this problem, so if you don't like this thread just quit
Best social drugs IYE
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1) Who ask to try self medicate drugs ??????????????????????
2) Therapy is pure shit for SAD, you absolutely have nothing knowledge about this problem, so if you don't like this thread just quit
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^ his caution is warranted. i think you'll find that out in a few years, considering your name and your join date
i'm not saying the meds are never needed. but if you get on a daily regimen for more than a few months, you're not getting off without shredding your life and mind
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^ his caution is warranted. i think you'll find that out in a few years, considering your name and your join date
i'm not saying the meds are never needed. but if you get on a daily regimen for more than a few months, you're not getting off without shredding your life and mind
Depressicaa
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Unfortunately most people who recommend therapy haven't been on it themselves, and assume it is the holy grail of anxiety. I have had therapy, and I came out unchanged.
Not saying this is what happens to everyone, but that is why people do drugs. Shit doesn't work, so you want something that works for sure.
I like booze to socialize but it can make me over confident and social, like chatting shit to random strangers, I like a joint but i get paranoid if in the wrong company so it depends. booze and benzos are probably the two i would go for, as i'm not a stim fan, prefer my downers
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Mephedrone as long as nobody becomes a fiend-and if ppl do-as long as I'm the one supplying it, then its still good cuz ppl will talk and talk but they'll be even nicer...hahahaha.
Also I find LSD + MDMA to be good for socialization. The loss of ego/inhibition and the empathogen/stimulant effects go well together to get almost anyone to talk to eachother
finally, a dosage of oxy or another stimulating opioid that is below nodding dosage, and not IV otherwise too much time is spent chasing a rush.
Oh also things that are great for socialization are drugs that are prepared for consumption in forms like regular food/drink.
Poppy pod tea/Kratom tea are both excellent for serving to groups of people and all socializing. Traditionally Tea parties/Coffee houses etc. are social magnets. Add in the nice buzz of kratom or poppy pods/opium and its gonna end well!
weed is a social drug too i guess, but i think of that on the same level as cigarettes. I don't smoke, tho a while ago I used to go outside and ask for a cig at a club just to bullshit with ppl.....usually its a segway for socialization not a key element of it
Also I find LSD + MDMA to be good for socialization. The loss of ego/inhibition and the empathogen/stimulant effects go well together to get almost anyone to talk to eachother
finally, a dosage of oxy or another stimulating opioid that is below nodding dosage, and not IV otherwise too much time is spent chasing a rush.
Oh also things that are great for socialization are drugs that are prepared for consumption in forms like regular food/drink.
Poppy pod tea/Kratom tea are both excellent for serving to groups of people and all socializing. Traditionally Tea parties/Coffee houses etc. are social magnets. Add in the nice buzz of kratom or poppy pods/opium and its gonna end well!
weed is a social drug too i guess, but i think of that on the same level as cigarettes. I don't smoke, tho a while ago I used to go outside and ask for a cig at a club just to bullshit with ppl.....usually its a segway for socialization not a key element of it
Anyone who recommends you might wanna smoke cannabis to function better socially obviously have never had social anxiety in the first place. I'm now going through this too, horrible social phobia that barely has me functioning at all, and it gives away instantly whenever I'm around 7-8 people or more, esp the opposite sex. I really feel for your incentive to find a pill wise solution or something.
A big dose of caffeine can literally cure it (for once only though) and it's not an everyday solution. Weed makes it like 5x worse and also makes me suffer it in situations I'd normally act like a normal person.
About the only thing that helps me and is more or less sustainable is heavy endurance training, running miles long tracks and all. I'm not sure that would work for you as you mentioned you have back issues... well I have some knee and back issues and that HELPS it too. Good luck whatever the way you go.
A big dose of caffeine can literally cure it (for once only though) and it's not an everyday solution. Weed makes it like 5x worse and also makes me suffer it in situations I'd normally act like a normal person.
About the only thing that helps me and is more or less sustainable is heavy endurance training, running miles long tracks and all. I'm not sure that would work for you as you mentioned you have back issues... well I have some knee and back issues and that HELPS it too. Good luck whatever the way you go.
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Weed doesn't always cause or cause anxiety at all for some people. For some it causes a feeling of relaxation and inspires creative thinking. I remember in a biopsy class I took we learned that the chemical Anandamide was responsible for the 'life sorta flashing before your eyes, time slowing down, forgetting whats going on and being lost in a thought' feeling people describe that occurs in intense situations such as almost getting into a car accident or being in one and recalling as it was happening...anandamide is our brains natural cannabinoid receptor neurotransmitter, and THC basically mimics it. Heres a link on this stuff http://biologyofkundalini.com/article.php?story=Bliss
Anyway, it would make sense some people condition themselves to feeling fear when a cannabinoid receptors being affected, while others feel relaxed and relief. It deals with short term memory and how theyre formed/stored...
Personally I used to smoke pot allll the time and I loved it never felt anxious. When I got hooked on opiates and then cold turkey quit and had w/d's I still smoked to feel better. Eventually I stopped smoking when I was clean of all drugs. When I started smoking again I felt so depersonalized, lost, anxious. I feel like either the experience of withdrawals and realizing finally I could see the changes in myself and how the endorphins and dopamine twisted my actions, my thoughts, and I never even realized it until that point (when high). That or when I smoke my mind goes back to a dark place when I was smoking and thinking deeply about how sad I was and how shitty and dumb I felt for my addiction. either way, I didn't smoke pot for a long time.
I currently do not smoke pot.
However, after those horrible pot experiences I eventually gave it another try, a whiiile later, and I found that smoking after/during rolling or tripping on acid or shrooms....it changed smoking pot for the time being. After that, I could smoke and relax and enjoy it, it took time and was gradual however, I slowly became more able to relax from pot. I actually like stronger sativa hybrids much more than indica/sativa mixes that are more indica, I prefer the cerebral high, in order to physically relax first I need to take my mind to a place where I can figure out why I am tense, how to not be, how I'll feel if i chill out, do I want to do things to feel certain ways, why am I hesitant, etcetcetc. Once my mind is clear and precise with its decisions the rest is simple. Oh and I have smoked King Krypto blend which has jwh whatever in it...I like it however it DEFINATELY brings out the anxious mini panic attack feeling of thought loops and discomfort with your own thoughts on the come up, once that parts over I think it enhances music and tv shows and story depth...but it physically sucks. I get a body buzz of relaxation yet i dont feel at ease my minds all over the place, i get NO hunger or munchies....I'm not a big fan of weed and my judgement on jwh substances is that they are ok, however they aren't something i'd enjoy alone or much of. I think maybe REAL cannabis with THC would be a nicer smoke, perhaps adding small doses of jwh chems in with it, enhances aspects weed traditionally gave and keeping the others as well.
I'd much rather just smoke opium tbh
Anyway, it would make sense some people condition themselves to feeling fear when a cannabinoid receptors being affected, while others feel relaxed and relief. It deals with short term memory and how theyre formed/stored...
Personally I used to smoke pot allll the time and I loved it never felt anxious. When I got hooked on opiates and then cold turkey quit and had w/d's I still smoked to feel better. Eventually I stopped smoking when I was clean of all drugs. When I started smoking again I felt so depersonalized, lost, anxious. I feel like either the experience of withdrawals and realizing finally I could see the changes in myself and how the endorphins and dopamine twisted my actions, my thoughts, and I never even realized it until that point (when high). That or when I smoke my mind goes back to a dark place when I was smoking and thinking deeply about how sad I was and how shitty and dumb I felt for my addiction. either way, I didn't smoke pot for a long time.
I currently do not smoke pot.
However, after those horrible pot experiences I eventually gave it another try, a whiiile later, and I found that smoking after/during rolling or tripping on acid or shrooms....it changed smoking pot for the time being. After that, I could smoke and relax and enjoy it, it took time and was gradual however, I slowly became more able to relax from pot. I actually like stronger sativa hybrids much more than indica/sativa mixes that are more indica, I prefer the cerebral high, in order to physically relax first I need to take my mind to a place where I can figure out why I am tense, how to not be, how I'll feel if i chill out, do I want to do things to feel certain ways, why am I hesitant, etcetcetc. Once my mind is clear and precise with its decisions the rest is simple. Oh and I have smoked King Krypto blend which has jwh whatever in it...I like it however it DEFINATELY brings out the anxious mini panic attack feeling of thought loops and discomfort with your own thoughts on the come up, once that parts over I think it enhances music and tv shows and story depth...but it physically sucks. I get a body buzz of relaxation yet i dont feel at ease my minds all over the place, i get NO hunger or munchies....I'm not a big fan of weed and my judgement on jwh substances is that they are ok, however they aren't something i'd enjoy alone or much of. I think maybe REAL cannabis with THC would be a nicer smoke, perhaps adding small doses of jwh chems in with it, enhances aspects weed traditionally gave and keeping the others as well.
I'd much rather just smoke opium tbh
My doctor had prescribed me vicodin.
That really seems to help with the pain, also note that It really heps with anxiety
because well, it makes me really happy... that I dont have to deal with the pain
good luck with the withdrawal effects !!!!!
anarchogen
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pcp. really helps you loosen up around the dames
fuck the nay-sayers
fuck the nay-sayers
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Lots of drugs are fairly good for social situations, but it kind of depends on your criteria. Some make you overtly social, and are good with friends, but others make you better socially with strangers. But basically, cannabis, low doses of benzodiazepines, low doses of alcohol, and possibly ecstasy are good social drugs in my book.
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jenkem is social as fuck
Different kinds of "social":
Business/Academia/Witty/Sharp: 2/3 cup poppy tea, a cup strong coffee, one small line cocaine, one beer. If you over do it you're fucked.
Party: medium dose MDMA, Cigarz, Beer
Just Friends: are you crazy? They're your friends for gods sake...But if you must, 1/2 cup poppy tea, 1/2 beer, 1/2 cup coffee
Yea Poppy Tea/MDMA/Beer/Caffeine all work extremely well in the right doses
I would add small amounts of shrooms to that list but its extremely disrespectful to use those too recreationally, they'll punish you if you push it, and give you one of the most righteous but painful experiences of your life.
But for chronic use: small amounts caffeine, HOLY BASIL TEA, Coca Leaf
I cant reccomend any other drugs than the couple above for everyday use due to addiction/dependency/too stong a warp of the natural mind
These aren't drugs but exercise/meditation work better than any of these really![:\](https://bluelight.org/xf/BL_Images/Orig_Emoji/wrygrin.gif "wry grin :\")
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Business/Academia/Witty/Sharp: 2/3 cup poppy tea, a cup strong coffee, one small line cocaine, one beer. If you over do it you're fucked.
Party: medium dose MDMA, Cigarz, Beer
Just Friends: are you crazy? They're your friends for gods sake...But if you must, 1/2 cup poppy tea, 1/2 beer, 1/2 cup coffee
Yea Poppy Tea/MDMA/Beer/Caffeine all work extremely well in the right doses
I would add small amounts of shrooms to that list but its extremely disrespectful to use those too recreationally, they'll punish you if you push it, and give you one of the most righteous but painful experiences of your life.
But for chronic use: small amounts caffeine, HOLY BASIL TEA, Coca Leaf
I cant reccomend any other drugs than the couple above for everyday use due to addiction/dependency/too stong a warp of the natural mind
These aren't drugs but exercise/meditation work better than any of these really
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alcohol & jwh-018 synergize really well. they seem to create a new high and the alcohol makes the spice last longer
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Differs for everyone, but IMO:
1. Opiates
2. Entactogens (MDMA, methylone)
3. Stimulants
Opiates have been a godsend for my social anxiety/self-consciousness issues, though I still actively work on my problems by journaling, meditating, etc. MDMA and related drugs definitely make me sociable, but they tend to make me say TOO much or do things I normally wouldn't.
1. Opiates
2. Entactogens (MDMA, methylone)
3. Stimulants
Opiates have been a godsend for my social anxiety/self-consciousness issues, though I still actively work on my problems by journaling, meditating, etc. MDMA and related drugs definitely make me sociable, but they tend to make me say TOO much or do things I normally wouldn't.
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Even though u can't abuse or get high from it, sertratine (zoloft) is an ssri that really helps with anxiety. Its easy to get an rx
'Social' Drugs
I am very very bad at meeting people. I don't have my own friends that I haven't just met through someone else. I have social anxiety horribly when it comes to first impressions and I botch them very often, which bothers me because other than this I'm a 'go with the flow' kinda person. Once I know someone, this goes away and everythings fine, but it sure as hell puts a damper on my sex life and I haven't really had a relationship since high school because I get to paranoid (I'm 22 now)
That being said, the reason I fell in love with MDMA was the fact that I felt like I all ready knew everyone. I also go with amphetamines mixed with alcohol, the alcohol gets me talking and mingling but the amphetamines keeps my head together and keeps me awake.
Are there any other "social" drugs like this?
If this isn't the correct forum, I guess move it, I felt like this was the most appropriate place haha.
thanks in advance
I am very very bad at meeting people. I don't have my own friends that I haven't just met through someone else. I have social anxiety horribly when it comes to first impressions and I botch them very often, which bothers me because other than this I'm a 'go with the flow' kinda person. Once I know someone, this goes away and everythings fine, but it sure as hell puts a damper on my sex life and I haven't really had a relationship since high school because I get to paranoid (I'm 22 now)
That being said, the reason I fell in love with MDMA was the fact that I felt like I all ready knew everyone. I also go with amphetamines mixed with alcohol, the alcohol gets me talking and mingling but the amphetamines keeps my head together and keeps me awake.
Are there any other "social" drugs like this?
If this isn't the correct forum, I guess move it, I felt like this was the most appropriate place haha.
thanks in advance