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Pure MDMA Dosage..

This is a two-parter....and just a little background info...

I have been taking pressed pills for about 5 years, at the most I was taking them once a month and sometimes around 6 pills each night (dumb, I know). This only lasted for a few months and it was a lot more average for me to "roll" once every 3 months for a massive or whatnot. I want to say this makes my tolerance HIGH, however, I have not taken any pressed pills in nearly a YEAR.....making me think my tolerance may have dropped a bit?

I want to take pure MDMA capsules for the first time and am torn between 100mg and 200mg to start off. Which is best for an experienced user who hasn't really used in a year?

I'm leaning towards 200mg since I also have seretonin issues with anxiety/ occasional depression......but as I have never had PURE capsules, I don't really know if that would be unpleasant? Normally with pressed pills I would have to take 2 just to get the ideal effects started.


2nd part- Does pure mdma typically NOT increase your heart rate as much as pressed pills? Is it considered safer for your heart than pressed pills with all their icky methy fillers? I ask because my partner has a heart condition (but still INSISTS on taking these capsules)....Would 200mg be too much for his heart? (I know no amount is good for him, but he won't listen) He has the same pill experience/tolerance as myself.
 
Hi, welcome to Bluelight. :)

First of all, I'd recommend against taking 200mg to start. If you haven't done MDMA in a year, your tolerance is likely low enough to have a good roll off of just 100mg (assuming that you actually do indeed have 100mg of pure MDMA, which is unlikely). Assuming you have an unknown but fairly high quantity of MDMA, you might want to split the 200mg dose into two. Take one first, wait an hour to an hour and a half to see if it's necessary to take a second, then pop the other one. Fight the urge to redose after this point, because it won't do much to prolong or intensify the experience and will only contribute to negative side effects afterward.

Having issues with anxiety/depression doesn't necessarily mean that MDMA will affect you differently in a physiological sense, but it may change your attitude about the roll. As with all psychoactive drugs, it's a good idea to wait until you're in a good mood and ready to have a good time with or without the use of a drug. This way, you won't dwell excessively on negative ideas (which can mute MDMA's effect), or rely on the drug exclusively to enjoy yourself. In my opinion, MDMA (and most drugs, for that matter) should be an addition to an already great experience and not the main point of interest. :)

As for your second question, it's hard to say. There's traditionally been an expectation among people buying MDMA that powder is purer than pills (although this hasn't always been the case). This expectation is really the only thing you have going for you, since powder can be cut just as easily (if not more so) than a pressed pill. That said, in today's market MDMA powder seems to contain less adulterants than pills, but you should still always test with a field testing kit to be sure that your substance at least contains MDMA. You can get a field testing kit from a lot of places online, including EZtest.com and DanceSafe.org (I've only ordered from EZtest myself).

Since your partner has heart issues, it may be best for him to stick with a 100mg dosing -- there's really no telling what's in a pill/capsule, and it's better to be safe and have an underwhelming experience than sorry. :\ That said, if he feels like he's alright two hours or so after the initial dose and that the capsules are on the weak side, he might be alright with taking the other since he'll have already weathered any negative effects from the first. Again, this is assuming that they contain the same amount of MDMA or other active ingredients...it's really a gamble, not sure how else to phrase it.

In any case, good luck, and let us know how it goes. :)
 
Thank you! =)

And yeah, I definitely realize that the "pureness" is an assumption, not a guarantee unfortunately haha. I've considered getting a test kit, but feel it would be a waste, this is the last time were planning to take pills for a very very long time.

100mg does seem a lot wiser and after talking with my boyfriend I think we reached a consensus about it.....but would all our little seretonin receptors be burnt out by the first dose for the second to even have an effect?
 
I recommended the second dose to account for the possibility that you either need the full 150mg+ to have a good roll, or that your first capsule had <100mg and thus taking <100mg + <100mg would equal roughly 100-150mg (the ideal dose). Of course, it's a far better idea to be cautious and just go with the single capsule (especially since there are health concerns involved), so kudos to you for that. :)

As an aside, it's pretty common practice to take a "booster dose" about an hour in to extend the experience. I assume by "burnt out" you're referring to receptor downregulation, which by the way is a normal process of the brain and doesn't indicate damage per se. Your receptors won't downregulate immediately after the first dose...downregulation becomes a factor after the 4-6 hour mark, and in my opinion is the reason that the MDMA experience ends around that point (and also why it's difficult to extend it beyond that point by redosing). Your booster dose will facilitate a greater release of serotonin, which may make the experience slightly shorter (more stimulation = faster downregulation, to an extent). Primarily, the booster dose is a good idea when you're not sure exactly how much MDMA you're taking or how much you need, since being slightly above the critical dosage yields a better experience than being slightly belwo it (barring health concerns, as in the case of your boyfriend).

Testing kits, especially if you spring for the simplest kit, are relatively cheap. For instance, the least expensive kit is approximately the same price as two or three pills...even if you use MDMA once, I personally think it's completely worth it. :) Of course, it's up to you in the end.

Have fun. :D
 
I personally would suggest a higher dose for the girls - at the moment I am basing my dose/roll on the reports I hear from Pokeball pills. They are working out about 90mgs per pill and nearly everyone is having a blast on them. The 'sweet spot' for most users is around 100+mgs with some needing 150mg .
 
Help with dosage!

What Would Make Me Roll Harder?
If I Double Drop or If I Wait an hour after taking my first one.
I Have a high tolerance now & after this im taking a good long break.
Any suggestions?
 
Taking twice the amount your used to at the start will produce a higher dose than taking two pills apart. Theres really nothing more that can be said on this subject so Im closing this thread down.
 
My girlfriend and I each took 0.2g on my shitty scale. It wasn't my first time but it was her second. Needless to say we rolled hard. I think i may have rolled harder then i have in the year I've been doing it. We both had a blast though eye wiggles made it hard to see anything for the better part of 3 hours.

Like I said it wasn't her first time so she kind of knew what to expect and I knew she enjoyed the last time we did 0.1g. But god damn was that a great time any more would have been too much but it turned out better then awesome.

My point is rolling is awesome you'll have a great time at those doses as long as its good mdma. Redosing is always an option and anything under 200mg but over 100mg is probably a good dose.
 
Molly Doseage

So my first time doing molly my friend and I took .1 mg of powder. I simply put it in my mouth and washed it down with water. I felt it a little, but it really didn't do much. My dealer said to snort it but I didn't do it because I never snorted anything before and most people told me taking it orally is better.

I want to do it again at a rave next week but im unsure of how much I should take and how I should take it. I was thinking .2mg.... I want to really roll this time.

any suggestions? thx
 
i would suggest doin .2 also cause if you felt something last time but not full out rolling then this time for sure you should feel better
 
take .1 and an hour later take .05. Just because .1 didnt work too well doesnt mean you should double the dose!
You can take .2 throughout the night, but if you just started using MDMA, .2 at once is alot, especially if it is true clean molly.
 
i hope you mean .1g
.1mg would do nothing.
try .15
if its not cut to piss you should feel pretty good
 
if its your first time doing mdma at all, i think you'd feel .1g assuming an average weight/metabolism.

of course, theres no telling .1g of molly is really pure mdma.
 
Listen to your dealer. He's the one who knows whats up with his product.

That being said if he says it ONLY works when snorted then it might not be MDMA. Ask him of he's ever heard of mephedrone, I've had people try to pass drone off to me as "Molly you have to snort" I called him out in front of everyone he sold to cause he tried charging me 15 dollars for maybe a point of drone.
 
2 mg/ kg is perfect for a beginner. So convert your weight to Kilos and multiply. Dont mix it with anything and pre-load with antioxidants like vitamin C. After you come down take a ssri/5htp/aspirin/more antioxidants.


Dont fucking take caffeine with it, by a strange mechanism is can really increase the neurotoxicity. If you want to take a stim with it ritalin on the other hand is fine and can offer minor protection.


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20590585

^^ why caffeine increases toxicity, very few people know this.
 
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