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The Big and Dandy AMT Thread - 2nd incarnation

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lineartransform said:
Any amount of vinegar with rectal admin is going to make it VERY difficult to retain the AMT - trust me, that's the nicest way I can put it.

The best method of plugging AMT freebase I have found is to dissolve it in a small amount of propylene glycol. It dissolves easily over a period of a few minutes, and this process can be sped up by the addition of a bit of heat. I do not believe conversion to a salt is required, as this has been tested and has a distinct increase in potency and decrease in onset over oral.
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would a couple of drops of mineral oil work then? either way i wouldn't want to make a habit out of doing that, it would have some serious long term health risks.

from the data sheet:-
"avoid skin contact with propylene glycol as this strong skin irritant can cause liver abnormalities and kidney damage."

generally i would avoid plugging anything unless it is in water.

MagickalKat777 said:
And how exactly is the rectum going to absorb the freebase? You have to convert it to a salt of some sort before it will absorb properly.
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i see your point i've never tried plugging freebase of anything though, i would smoke it if i had freebase as wouldn't like the long duration of taking freebase orally.
 
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JedTheHumanoid said:
Not yet. I'll try and do one tomorrow. There don't seem to be many first time TRs for this.
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yeh was thinking the same, just browsed the tr's, i will post a full one also when im recovered lol, seen a cpl of posts on another forum comparing it to the infamous 6-apb pellets, hope fucking not haha..if my 50mg dose lives upto the majority of the reports on erowid i will be over the moon, the ones who mixed with weed took off and thats what i want, im getting tempted to eat some weed on taking the aMT as it will be a nice slow release and i imagine will stop any bodyload and nausea and best of all magnify the trip, thats my philosiphy..sounds good doesnt it haha
 
zamzams said:
would a couple of drops of mineral oil work then? either way i wouldn't want to make a habit out of doing that, it would have some serious long term health risks.

from the data sheet:-
"avoid skin contact with propylene glycol as this strong skin irritant can cause liver abnormalities and kidney damage."

generally i would avoid plugging anything unless it is in water.
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You may want to research just what propylene glycol is used for.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propylene_glycol

See "Applications". While I wouldn't chug bottles of it, I'm not too concerned about the 1-2mL required.
 
I've recently ordered 50mg freebase and as I have the house for myself tomorrow, I'm keen on doing a bit of researching.

I was wondering how trippy/introspective AMT is, as I can't really deduct that from everybody's comments. I had a bad trip over a year ago on acid and I haven't touched psychedelics since then (but had my fair share of MDMA, Meph, M1). I don't really feel in the mood a 10hour self analysis :)

What kind of dosage would you recommend to maximize euphoria and minimize thought loops, mind fucks? Any input would be appreciated...
 
Did you read post 151?

"I'll probably be criticised as being anti harm reduction but I think too many people are taking aMT wanting it to be mdxx so they are dosing too low to try and avoid any psychedelic effects but still want all the euphoria.
Well i'm sorry folks but this is a psychedelic drug and if you want the euphoria and other intersting effects that it offers then you have to take a psychedelic dose. If you want the new meph or mdxx then look elsewhere."

I've personally found that euphoria relative to psychedelia is increased by using aMT intramuscularly rather than by any other method. Still, it's less intense than most straight empathogens at low IM sub-psychedelic doses. If you want to use it for euphoria it's real value is as part of combinations -- it tends to potentiate other monoamine releasers, smooth them out, lengthen them, and reduce or eliminate any kind of crash for me. Amphetamine, an opiate, some cannabis and aMT is pretty fantastic for non-committal pleasure.
 
Thanks psoodonym, I indeed read that post. Some people seem to insinuate that it is a relatively anxiety-free substance and that it is hard not to have a good time on it.

I def agree with you on the "get the full effect" thing. I guess I'am just trying to find out what kind of thinking patterns to expect....
 
You're unlikely to get mindfuckery reminiscent of powerful psychedelics. You could try lower and just keep some M1 on hand to kick it up a notch if needed. The worst you get at a low dose is mild to moderate anxiety, and that's nowhere near a bad trip.
 
psood0nym said:
You're unlikely to get mindfuckery reminiscent of powerful psychedelics. You could try lower and just keep some M1 on hand to kick it up a notch if needed. The worst you get at a low dose is mild to moderate anxiety, and that's nowhere near a bad trip.
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Some would beg to differ with this opinion. 12 hours of anxiety versus a 30 minute spell of ick in a trip... give me the 30 minute bad trip...
 
psood0nym said:
Did you read post 151?

"I'll probably be criticised as being anti harm reduction but I think too many people are taking aMT wanting it to be mdxx so they are dosing too low to try and avoid any psychedelic effects but still want all the euphoria.
Well i'm sorry folks but this is a psychedelic drug and if you want the euphoria and other intersting effects that it offers then you have to take a psychedelic dose. If you want the new meph or mdxx then look elsewhere."

I've personally found that euphoria relative to psychedelia is increased by using aMT intramuscularly rather than by any other method. Still, it's less intense than most straight empathogens at low IM sub-psychedelic doses. If you want to use it for euphoria it's real value is as part of combinations -- it tends to potentiate other monoamine releasers, smooth them out, lengthen them, and reduce or eliminate any kind of crash for me. Amphetamine, an opiate, some cannabis and aMT is pretty fantastic for non-committal pleasure.
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i have weed and can get some phet, opiates i not sure , are sleepers opiates?, how much of each wd ya recommend, will taking phet not wire ya as amt is also an amphetimine of sorts, cheers mate
 
I mixed aMT with Mephedrone and later added some Methoxetamine and had the most amazing experiences.

could be dangerous so do not try etc etc
 
Soon I will have AMT, I have no experienced with psychedelics, but experienced with dissociatives (used big doses of DXM and K)
I think I will start from 25mg.Somebody tried to mix amt with Piracetam or Phenibut? Will it be dangerous?
I think it can enhance the experience, in reality Phenibut works great with shrooms.
 
Man, it takes long to come up (T+2). Def feeling it now: buzzing and a slight change in colour.
 
Hopefully got 500mg coming in the post beginning of next week. Going to take 50mg as a first dose...and I'm probably going to be doing this around 22:00. Reckon I'll be adequately sober by 09:00 the next morning? Also how forgiving is the comedown from AMT? I don't want this substance affecting anything other than my free time.
 
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