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Kava works great, It's more pleasurable and relaxing than benzos for me, it's a very "natural" feeling calmness. And it's not as habit forming as benzo's.

It works best when it's a fresh batch, If you hold on to it for too long it loses its potency.

I found it holds well for about 3-5 months in proper condiontions.
 
^^ Nope, SJW accounts for more than 50% of the anti-depressant prescriptions in Germany. It's got active ingredients that are SSRI's.

North america likes to not use herbal meds, they don't make as much money.
 
hmm thats interesting, I really hate ssris though because of how they affect psychadelics and mdma, and even alcohol. Does st john wort affect stuff like other ssris?

Charlie what kind do you get? Like is it a powder or like roots?
 
hmm thats interesting, I really hate ssris though because of how they affect psychadelics and mdma, and even alcohol. Does st john wort affect stuff like other ssris?

I'd say yes, but it makes some things better. Sure it blocks serotonin receptors which means MDMA and psychedelics can't bind as well but the improved mood and anxiolytic effect is great for amphetamine and my new found love; hashish. Also makes amphetamines/empathogens a lot easier on you; no serotonin depletion. I've done 4-MMC on it twice now to good effect, amphetamine a few times; good stuff as well. Benzos/opiates, nicer than before, especially codeine. SJW is a cytochrom P450 inducer; more metabolism of codeine to morphine. :)

Ya gotta think of it; if your going through an anxious phase as it is; it's likely not a good time for heavy tripping anyway. It's all about which you value more; daily happiness or strong tripping?

Keep in mind you don't have to take SJW forever; you can stop it when you feel the time is right and then trip.
 
The best conventional AD that i tried was Buproprion back when I thought my problem was depression, but then I discovered I was actually bipolar after going through a couple of really scary manic and mixed states. Now I take a cocktail of dextroamphetamine, lamotrigine, and clonazepam, sometimes with some alprazolam thrown in as well. It is a little rough around the edges but works better than anything else. I still havent mastered getting enough quality sleep whilst being pulled in opposite directions by the uppers & downers but I am far more functional on this combo than on anything else with the possible exception of when I was on suboxone, which was a pretty damn decent thymoleptic and antidepressent in itself. I am pondering going back on the orange stuff actually, which would entail probably getting strung out on the brown stuff first ... interesting the hoops you have to go through in this system, isnt it?
 
I see, my anxiety is pretty stable right now, but i could def see myself using st johns in the near future. Did it ever react bad that time you took dxm? Oh and does it take like 2 weeks to start working like other ssris (another thing i dont like about them).

I definitely wanna get some kava, does the kava you get from like wal mart work at all?

And can you buy valerian root at the store in the us?
 
edit: ^ agreed.

Haha, you can get kava at wal-mart?? crazy, it's banned here, not illegal, but sale is banned. I get it online. Just read the label for kavalactone content and the dosage. You should do some reading before you go.

Yeah, valerian is at any drug store in the herbal section.

I've never had SJW react bad with anything and I've taken a bunch of monoamine releasers on it; there isn't any real MAOI effect. That DXM trip was nice.

For the first day ti does little and days 2-5 were kind of lethargic and dull headed but after that I felt great and still do.

That's the big advantage over benzos; no dull headedness. With benzos I was always so tired, lazy, dumb. Not a good thing. With school coming up I knew there was no way in hell I could be taking benzos during the days. Benzos are really bad on another level; they just make you so complacent and apathetic; they suck the life out of you. Sure you don't have anxiety but you aren't excited or happy either.

SJW is uplifting and I'm able to think on it and when I really need to think I take some amphetamine. I can still take a benzo or kava or valerian or whatever if I need it on top of SJW.
 
The best conventional AD that i tried was Buproprion back when I thought my problem was depression, but then I discovered I was actually bipolar after going through a couple of really scary manic and mixed states. Now I take a cocktail of dextroamphetamine, lamotrigine, and clonazepam, sometimes with some alprazolam thrown in as well. It is a little rough around the edges but works better than anything else. I still havent mastered getting enough quality sleep whilst being pulled in opposite directions by the uppers & downers but I am far more functional on this combo than on anything else with the possible exception of when I was on suboxone, which was a pretty damn decent thymoleptic and antidepressent in itself. I am pondering going back on the orange stuff actually, which would entail probably getting strung out on the brown stuff first ... interesting the hoops you have to go through in this system, isnt it?

Lol I was on dextro and klonipin a few years ago after heave hydro oxy pod habit. Worked absolute wonders from getting my cravings away from the opiates. (but shit how hard can it be when your high as hell on amps right). I think i had a similar case as you and found out i was bi polar after having serious manic and psychotic episodes from the mix of benzo and amp. Its stated in the dextro pamphlet its like called amphetamine psychosis from the doctor prescribed amount. Meaning I never abused it, hell i didnt even take it everyday. I completely stopped after my ex gf told me of a lady she knew who had a simlar thing but had to be hospilitized and it affected her kidneys or some shit, this was vyvanse though.

It completely ruined my life, addiction to benzos and amps is the scariest thing in the world. I couldnt leave the house without one or another. I became socially reclusive and very suicidal. I also lost all my friends and caused a lot of harm in familys house. The worst part was i always had really good dank and i couldnt even smoke it because the amps it would make me feel soooooo horrible, but im such a pothead so i would keep smoking every day anyways.

Sometimes you gotta learn the hard way, I know exactly what drugs will send me into a manic state and what wont. Some are worse than others. the worst for me being opiates, amps, especially meth one single meth session will send me into a furious psychotic and manic state. (makes sense tho since im completely hypomanic the whole time high on it. Next comes benzos if im not careful and then mdma but mdma is not nearly as bad as any of the others i have to really binge on pressed pills, molly doesnt affect me that way though.

Pcp is probably the most emotional drug i have ever put into my system so i have to stay away from that. If you think mushrooms are emotional heh, Pcp makes that look like a jolly walk in a park, and pcp last for like 2-3 days. I have awaken from smoking pcp 2 days later and put on the yellow submarine and ended up crying at how beautiful it was out of shear joy.


Surprisingly dxm and and psychedelics dont do this to me at all. This summer when I completely got off the amps and then didnt need the benzos as much i havent had one single manic episode. Its crazy too, a lot of yall will think this is crazy but I dosed pretty much 50% of the whole summer, many times days and days in a row. When i didnt dose L I was taking dxm, and many of the times i was taking them together.

Now get this you would think my anxiety would insane and my brain all fucked from the dxm but ive seriously been very social and not nearly as depressed as say from opiates.

The only thing i still have anxiety from is suboxone. After i did get off the hydros and pods I was still taking suboxone everyday along with my vyvanse. Let me tell you suboxone is one hell of an opiate, i actually like it a lot. 1/16 of a pill snorted can get me high all day long with no tolerance.

That was a few months ago and ive been taking the loperamide which works wonders for paws from opiates. And the depression and anxiety is so mild its not that big of a deal.

Back in the day when a friend and i first started taking shrooms and dosing a lot and we were rolling all the time too. We decided to take 7 grams of hydro shrooms and i had a horrible trip. Took me years to recover and we both blamed it all on the mdma and psychs.

BUT we were taking xanax and opiates and adderal and drinking every day and shit too and thought those were doing nothing to our depression and anxiety. Well looking back now we were all addicted to xanax (just never saw it that way) and it was the benzos/alcohol/ amps/ cocaine that were driving us insane and suicidal. I actually tried to kills myself in the middle of a hydro benzo wd.

So sometimes you gotta listen to your body. I used to just take drugs and sit around and be kind of like nearjat when i was your age (please dont take any offense to this) just always wondering what im sad and why i dont have a gf and why i cant just go up and talk to people.

Its easy to listen to general society who will mostly always say alcohol is much safer than psychs but you gotta find out what affects you best, and if something makes you go manic or depressed you shouldnt be taking it. Im not diagnosed bi polar but i may have a small form of it, but its pretty much nonexistent unless im doing a bunch of drugs.


Sorry this is so long, jeez I feel like Xorkoth <3
 
edit: ^ agreed.

Haha, you can get kava at wal-mart?? crazy, it's banned here, not illegal, but sale is banned. I get it online. Just read the label for kavalactone content and the dosage. You should do some reading before you go.

Yeah, valerian is at any drug store in the herbal section.

I've never had SJW react bad with anything and I've taken a bunch of monoamine releasers on it; there isn't any real MAOI effect. That DXM trip was nice.

For the first day ti does little and days 2-5 were kind of lethargic and dull headed but after that I felt great and still do.

That's the big advantage over benzos; no dull headedness. With benzos I was always so tired, lazy, dumb. Not a good thing. With school coming up I knew there was no way in hell I could be taking benzos during the days. Benzos are really bad on another level; they just make you so complacent and apathetic; they suck the life out of you. Sure you don't have anxiety but you aren't excited or happy either.

SJW is uplifting and I'm able to think on it and when I really need to think I take some amphetamine. I can still take a benzo or kava or valerian or whatever if I need it on top of SJW.

no dullheadedness sounds great to me. Sometimes i take my kpin and it rids my anxiety so much that i ended up being super quiet because im so zonked out.
 
The best conventional AD that i tried was Buproprion back when I thought my problem was depression, but then I discovered I was actually bipolar after going through a couple of really scary manic and mixed states. Now I take a cocktail of dextroamphetamine, lamotrigine, and clonazepam, sometimes with some alprazolam thrown in as well. It is a little rough around the edges but works better than anything else. I still havent mastered getting enough quality sleep whilst being pulled in opposite directions by the uppers & downers but I am far more functional on this combo than on anything else with the possible exception of when I was on suboxone, which was a pretty damn decent thymoleptic and antidepressent in itself. I am pondering going back on the orange stuff actually, which would entail probably getting strung out on the brown stuff first ... interesting the hoops you have to go through in this system, isnt it?

man how long have you been on the kpin dextro mix? I really would advise you to stay clear if your trying to be free of depression. I also was taking suboxone on top of these and it was a nightmare. After 2 weeks with opiates, its like a magic number i get all numb and depressed even if i keep taking them. Just be careful man.

I have read your posts about your opinion on psychadelics and how people can be so abusive with them but by far the worst part of my life and worst experience of my life came from taking those 3 devlish prescriptions. I dosed more than a whole vial to my self this summer and didnt feel on single side effect except for completely wanting to quit cigs and opiates which i did and wanting to change my life for the better and be a better person. I have also developed deep moral codes to live by and stopped hanging with people who do downright bad things. It has literly saved my life.
 
Some people may disagree with me, but GABA works wonders.

I take 1.5 grams when I'm anxious and it kicks in within 20 mins

It calms me even more than a xanax, and its the only anxiety helper I use these days.

From things Ive read it's said to not work or have any effect because of BBB issues, but that's not true....

Everyone I've recommended it to said it helps alot... It's a top notch sleep aid ta boot.
 
I've always wondered what is it with people getting massive prescriptions like that?

I never got scripted anything but antibiotics when I was a kid. The only thing psychoactive I've been scripted is my teeny tiny annual xanax script to have on hand.

I see this on BL a lot where people are prescribed heavy doses of benzos and/or amphetamines. I just find it so weird; I've never met anyone who's doctor scripted that stuff to them.

Also I find benzos sometimes actually made me grumpy and irritable; it would start to show after a few days of use.

hydro shrooms

Marketing myth. Mushrooms don't work like that; they can't be grown hydroponically (fungus; not a plant).
 
I've always wondered what is it with people getting massive prescriptions like that?

I never got scripted anything but antibiotics when I was a kid. The only thing psychoactive I've been scripted is my teeny tiny annual xanax script to have on hand.

I see this on BL a lot where people are prescribed heavy doses of benzos and/or amphetamines. I just find it so weird; I've never met anyone who's doctor scripted that stuff to them.



Marketing myth. Mushrooms don't work like that; they can't be grown hydroponically (fungus; not a plant).

LOL pepper I know how shrooms are made i just wanted to clarify that they werent feild shrooms, I kind of hate it too when people say "yeah man i got some hydroponic shrooms". and that home grown shrooms are always stronger than field ones for me.

Yeah dude its crazy how i got them and kind of sad. I just got out of rehab and my outpatient counselor wanted me to see a doc to get meds. So i go to this guy hes like indian. I had no intention on getting any drusg cus in rehab you cant take any amps or benzos but this vyvanse just came out and was not supposed to be a drug. Well i just mention to him i had add when i was little and in like 2 seconds he like ok heres some lexapro and vyvanse for add and ill start you with ativan and then next time give you klonipin. I was like HOLY SHIT YES for the benzo.

Then i get home and look up what vyvanse is and find out its dextroamphetamine!!! so I just took it and ran. I worked 40 hours a week and toom 15 hours that semeser and it was a breeze.
 
awesome, yea i didnt have to have an exact price just kind of sounds expensive "GABA", lol i dunno

So what are you doin up so late charlie?
 
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