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Tripping for change.

memorytremory

memorytremory

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In your opinion, which psychedelics have been the most helpful in personal insight/healing?

I mean ya, ya, we do them to see pretty colors and wander through outer space, but seriously- whether they were positive or negative revelations/insights, which substances would you say were most helpful?

I'm sitting in my dad's house for the next month waiting to get into """therapy""" and """rehab""" when his good insurance kicks in, and the more I read on these forums, the more I consider alternatives to anything involving the medical industry or traditional methods of working through painful issues. I'm weaning myself off of my SSRI, too, but he doesn't know that.

Sidenote: I've only robotripped as far as psychedelics go, and only after reaching the second plateau, I experienced a lot of (mostly dark) insights about myself, but haven't really hallucinated/had conversations with things that weren't there/taken a really extensive journey through whatever scary shit is in my head.

On the same note, I'm sure I'd find a lot of 'light' in there, too.
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Psilocybin mushrooms always humble me... if i'm congesting any feelings mushrooms literally make me ill to my stomach just generally gross feeling until I face whats been bothering me.

I've taken them many times and had not even realized my lifestyle was turning in ways that I feel do not benefit me I get really scared for a bit usually anxious... then i'll do something like vomit or cry and I feel the world turn from dark to light and a realization is had usually about what I believe to be the nature of reality, the nature of humaness or simply about relationships I have with people.

I feel a great sentiment towards the fact that mushrooms exist and suprise me in this quality of theirs every time... i'm kind of getting keen to it now so I try to have a REALLY clear head before I eat most psychedellics but usually I find that theres a few kinks to work out. mushrooms are actually FUN for me about 25% of the time 75% is self actualization and tough work.

Substances that make one purge have been known to put things in motion for personal change. If you know about ayahuasca I've read that most people purge in a similar progression as my experience with mushrooms i'm sure nowhere NEAR as intense though. You need to diet for a while before tackling ayahuasca however, i've never tried it, but I could cook it any time i'd like .
 
in my experience... dissociatives are good if you already know the changes you want to make, and psychedelics are good if you don't know what you need to change.
 
While Ayahuasca is, IMO, one of the most powerful medicines available..

Ibogaine has helped me in ways I never thought possible. Removed the shackles of a 5 year IV heroin addiction, helped with depression, OCD, laziness.. So much.

But the awesome thing about Ibogaine is that it didn't do all those things for me, it finally gave me the ability to do it myself.
 
I have had some very significant life changeing and healing experiences with 2c-b and mda.
 
had a very deep experience with ~24mg 2c-e this past sunday, still integrating. it seems that once it gets to a high dose alone, i go very far into my mind, and the more i take, the more "natural" it feels despite the increased side effects. its emotional neutrality helped me confront issues better than ive been able to with any other psych (well, mushrooms and lsd anyway). mushrooms definitely humble me but its almost too much of a burden on me to be able to clearly analyze anything, they make me a lot more confused than 2ce or lsd
 
DXM (Yes, believe it or not. Not the 4th plateau, but solid thirds on polistrex with Aphex Twin absolutely blew my mind and rearranged my music tastes as a young teen, like holy shit!), mushrooms, DMT, LSD, 2C-E.
 
My trips on Hawaiin Baby Woodrose were most beneficial out of all of the psychs I've encountered.

The journey they bring you on isn't an easy one, but its very rewarding.
 
I gotta say that LSD has been the most life changing for me, but I'm sure that it is in part due to the fact that it was the first real psychedelic that I tried.
2C-E seems to have some real potential as well. As for mushrooms, I'm not too sure. They simply leave me too confused to do much useful thinking, really.
 
thanks you guys, i really appreciate the responses and plan to research up on all of those (god knows i have endless hours to do so)

on a cheesy side note, i'm glad i joined this community. you all are a really intelligent and thoughtful bunch for the most part, and am particularly intrigued and impressed by the psychedelic forum lately.

it seems like 2-ce and lsd could be a good launching place for me; we'll see.
 
@memorttremory

it doesn't sound like you are in a good place to do this.

what is it you want to change?

what are you going to therapy/rehab for?
 
therapy for long burried issues- also am OCD, borderline personality, deal with trichotillomania, depression, anxiety.

aren't we all damaged?

i just want some insight. i've been seeing therapists on and off for the past 7 years- since i was 15. been on all kinds of antidepressants and other such pointless drugs.

i'm going into a rehab program because my family thinks i have a drug problem. however this problem has been very shortly experienced and only began this past summer, and i'm not physically addicted to anything, other than cigarettes. i just like experiementing with drugs, and unfortunately landing yourself in the ER red flags me as an abuser, rather than just a stupid girl who didn't do her research properly.

or who knows- i could be in a really self-destructive place, but i don't see any amount of therapy or prescribed medication helping me through the issues that are literally bursting through the seams of my life here. i'd like to research and try an alternative or two beforei submit myself to this 12 step bullshit for something i'm not even really willing to committ to.
 
Culpepers said:
I gotta say that LSD has been the most life changing for me, but I'm sure that it is in part due to the fact that it was the first real psychedelic that I tried.
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Ditto.


By the way, OP, it's very rare to "hallucinate" on psychedelics. Widespread myth due to the unfortunate misnomer "hallucinogen".
 
memorytremory said:
therapy for long burried issues- also am OCD, borderline personality, deal with trichotillomania, depression, anxiety.

aren't we all damaged?

i just want some insight. i've been seeing therapists on and off for the past 7 years- since i was 15. been on all kinds of antidepressants and other such pointless drugs.

i'm going into a rehab program because my family thinks i have a drug problem. however this problem has been very shortly experienced and only began this past summer, and i'm not physically addicted to anything, other than cigarettes. i just like experiementing with drugs, and unfortunately landing yourself in the ER red flags me as an abuser, rather than just a stupid girl who didn't do her research properly.

or who knows- i could be in a really self-destructive place, but i don't see any amount of therapy or prescribed medication helping me through the issues that are literally bursting through the seams of my life here. i'd like to research and try an alternative or two beforei submit myself to this 12 step bullshit for something i'm not even really willing to committ to.
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i am highly concerned about you.

yes - we are all damaged.

i am concerned about you taking any psychedelics though. i feel that without the proper guidance taking psychedelics will do you more harm than good - given your background. I thinking you should be seeking the right person to help you instead of the right drug. you need to clean out your system completely before you proceed as well. please completely detox.
 
listen to surf.shaman. while psychedelics certainly have helped out myself and many others, they have also led to suicides, suicide attempts (i did that one mushrooms once), and can bring out serious underlying psychological disorders like schizophrenia. they are not something to be taken lightly (though they too often are).

that being said, mushrooms, then lsd have changed and taught me alot over the years. among other things, mushrooms taught me how to smile when there is no reason to; and lsd has taught me that there is no future, and no past; just now, and to live in every moment.

while these two particular "lessons" are held very near and dear to my heart, i had to go through hell to learn them. it definitely wasnt just a sudden revelation.

Tunnelfission said:
mushrooms are actually FUN for me about 25% of the time 75% is self actualization and tough work.
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QFT

tripping at fests or at parties can be fun, but the most is generally gotten out of these substances when they are taken in a controlled environment with a sitter.

i could go on, but i'll stop rambling now.
 
thanks for the back up el superbeasto

self medicating with psychedelics for serious issues like OCD is not a good idea.

perhaps with the help of someone like Stanislav Grof it would be a good idea.

i think the best thing for memorytremory to do is to get 100% sober and work on her issues.

then even at a point of stability psychedelics may be contraindicated in someone with her history.
 
i LOVE Stanislav Grof! i have a bunch of his books, and i watch/listen to every talk and interview i can find from him. thats what i want to do with my life. lsd psychotherapy.
 
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