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Dreaming for Freedom from Drug Prohibition What's the situation in Mexico/Colombia?

onemystic

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Welcome free and righteous thinkers to my stream of consciousness hope,

In the midst of my heavenly nod I feel the extreme pleasure of a spectacular idea to leave Minnesota and head to another country in search of more lenient government laws involving drugs, specifically opiates, as well as an escape from the upcoming freezing ass climate.

Having read that Mexico has decriminalized possession of all recreational drugs, and that the Colombian government/culture is lenient on this subject as well has giving me hope for a happy and fulfilling future living life in one of these countries. If you know of a better place than these two, please tell me about them.

The downright epic difficulties and day to day struggles of being able to afford and gather my opiates to treat my severe anxiety / depression is gnawing away at my kind and humble spirit. Dealing with low class criminals hell bent on lies, greed, stupidity, and stomping on my dope forces me to question the very existence of good in the universe.

So here I sit, dreaming of a better life, and I offer these thoughts for you to examine...

I dream of a life where we are free to use the miraculous technology of medicine and chemistry to free us of our depression, increase our energy and ambition, and give us a life of fulfillment and happiness that we should all be entitled to.

I dream of a place where we do not live in fear of being thrown into a for-profit prison system to live in a 5X9 ft cell with rapists and murderers, for taking what is essentially a vitamin for our brains that hurts absolutely nobody so long as the patient is educated on the proper use of the medicine and is guaranteed a constant supply which is affordable and pure.

I dream of a place where the freedom to pursue happiness is respected and encouraged, so long as you are not hurting your fellow human beings.

I dream of a place where we wont be spending all of our money with uneducated thugs who have no vocabulary and call each other niggers and bitches because they have no sense of respect or humility.

I dream of all these things, because every day I wake up to the nightmare of a world and government gone mad with regards to our personal freedom. I wake up to this nightmare of a world where you have to have cancer or some extremely painful physical problem in order to be given these medications that do wonders for the well being of the mind.

I dream of a world where anyone with depression and anxiety can visit an affordable clinic and pharmacy to be educated on the proper use of opiate medications so as to avoid as many negative side effect and overdose consequences of using this technology.

We dream of many more improvements to this terrible drug prohibition system, and I encourage anyone that reads this to reply with their dreams on changing this Ludacris way of oppressing our rights.

When will our government wake up? When will WE THE PEOPLE stand up and demand that our rights be returned to us? We must demand that everyone in government speak aloud the beautiful statement below that our nation was founded upon. We must demand that they not only say it, but live up to it as well.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

In pursuing happiness, I have found opiates. I have hurt nobody, not even myself by using these medications. My right to pursue happiness has been destroyed, because every day I run the risk of being thrown into a cell.

Now I ask my Bluelight brothers, will I find any relief from this nightmare in the countries of Colombia or Mexico? Are the doctors in any countries more willing / able to prescribe me Oxycodone for my depression / anxiety? Are opiates such as heroin in plentiful supply down there? I have heard Colombia is producing some good stuff, and that it is legal to possess small amounts there? Is this true?

Please, if you have any knowledge on this subject, I would love to hear from you.

Thanks,
Hollywood
 
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1. as a gringo you are likely to get ripped off or arrested.

2. how do you plan to get citizenship? And how will you support your self there?
do you speak spanish? Are you qualified for jobs there?

There are lots of things to consider.
Its a nice dream, and i feel you on a lot of the issues you wrote about but at this point in time keep dreaming.
 
yeah if you do not know spanish then you will have a hard time actually living there..If it was just a dream that could happen and no arrests from cops or trouble from locals,I would pick Burma or Northern /thailand and live and grow opium among the local tribes which have been doing it for long long time,as it is part of there culture.But that is just if everything is all good like a dream..the reality would not be anything like that for an american..
 
mexico has not decriminalized possession of drugs. It has been discussed a couple times but it has never been passed.
 
mexico has not decriminalized possession of drugs. It has been discussed a couple times but it has never been passed.

I was under the impression that it was passed this year or last? I know that their parliament or congress or whatever had approved of such a measure but it was overturned by the President in the past, but I had read that he finally acquiesced to the idea.
 
nope never got through, the president said hed be open to discussing the idea but it never went farther than that.
 
nope never got through, the president said hed be open to discussing the idea but it never went farther than that.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9A763HO0

Would you please use this amazing invention called Google to check yourself before you come in here stating "facts" with such certainty? I mean seriously, WTF?

As for the people assuming I am a straight up blue eyed gringo, I am not. I am half Mexican and I do speak pretty good Spanish. I mean, I am sure the Mexicans would still know I was American by my accent and am concerned that they perhaps might murder me for my passport or kidnap me for ransom... Which are both good reasons why I am looking at South America for my source adventure. I can't believe I haven't heard from any drug tourists that have been to Colombia, or at the very least, Mexico.
 
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9A763HO0

Would you please use this amazing invention called Google to check yourself before you come in here stating "facts" with such certainty? I mean seriously, WTF?

As for the people assuming I am a straight up blue eyed gringo, I am not. I am half Mexican and I do speak pretty good Spanish. I mean, I am sure the Mexicans would still know I was American by my accent and am concerned that they perhaps might murder me for my passport or kidnap me for ransom... Which are both good reasons why I am looking at South America for my source adventure. I can't believe I haven't heard from any drug tourists that have been to Colombia, or at the very least, Mexico.

its well documented and known that decriminalization has been pushed thru to help ease with cartel woes aswell. glad you set this person straight.
 
its well documented and known that decriminalization has been pushed thru to help ease with cartel woes as well. glad you set this person straight.

Yea, I really hate it when people pass on faulty information when it is so easy to verify it. Makes the person that posted look like quite the dumb piece of shit.

Still does anyone have and first hand experience with opiates in Mexico / South America. Specifically wondering what the culture / government stances are on this subject. I am looking to visit down there and get away from this nasty bottom of the barrel, end of the stepped on gang infested drug trade here in the states.

Appreciate your time, I am quite surprised that not one single person has responded with any information!
 
so are you going on vacation or are you planning to move?

Either way you are more likely to get ripped off or arrested as a white guy.

I'll back that. If you don't have contacts already living down there and a firm command of the Spanish language, I wouldn't even attempt to find opiates down there. Honestly I wouldn't even want to risk trying to get something from a pharmacy since I've heard too many stories of people getting busted as they leave the place with a bottle of pills.
 
so are you going on vacation or are you planning to move?

Either way you are more likely to get ripped off or arrested as a white guy.

I'll back that. If you don't have contacts already living down there and a firm command of the Spanish language, I wouldn't even attempt to find opiates down there. Honestly I wouldn't even want to risk trying to get something from a pharmacy since I've heard too many stories of people getting busted as they leave the place with a bottle of pills.

Well as stated earlier, I actually do look Mexican / South American because my mother is Colombian and my father is a blonde / blue eyed Austrian. The dark genes are dominant so I look Mexican / South American. Also, I do have a pretty good grasp of Spanish as I was educated in a Spanish Immersion grade school with continued study through high school and college.

Now, the native people of these countries will be able to tell that I am not totally fluent, so yes I will have to be very careful going about these things. But I have faith in human goodness and kindness, so I won't live my life totally in fear but I will definitely use great care.

I was thinking about first traveling down there to check things out and see how it goes. If it goes well, I would consider moving out of this oppressive police / corporation society. With regards to being ripped off, I was actually planning on finding a doctor down there who I can get to write me a prescription for some Oxycodone. I am not looking to simply cop off the street. I imagine the cost of health care in Mexico / South America is cheap compared to here and the laws much more lenient when it comes to prescribing opiates.

Being a young guy with no provable chronic pain condition I cannot find a doctor anywhere who will prescribe me any kind of opiate. Unfortunately, my severe and stubbornly persistent anxiety and depression have found no relief despite the use of many anti-anxiety and anti-depressants over the years. In all of my searching, Oxycodone and a few other powerful opiates have proven to be the cure for my disease.

The oppressive laws here in the great U.S. of A. are extremely frustrating and disheartening to me, because I have finally found the wonder drug that cures my mental strife...with few side effects, besides of course the withdrawals, constipation, and growing tolerance.

Now, withdrawals happen with all kinds of commonly prescribed anti-anxiety and anti-depressant medications. Not to mention all the crazy / off the wall side effects that come along with many of those drugs. I just wish that they could at least study these drugs for anxiety and depression relief. They keep acting like these medications are poison when they in fact help many more people than they hurt / kill.

With regards to the LUDICROUS D.E.A. fear mongering about "ADDICTION" to these opiate medications I offer you the following logic:
What is really happening here is that these drugs have such an amazingly uplifting and motivating effect on the human psyche that many people fall in love with them. They make life on this cruel and unforgiving planet much easier to bear. The media, government and DEA use the word "addiction" instead of saying what these opiate medications truly are, "useful and incredibly helpful technology that we could likely become as dependent on as automobiles or electricity." These drugs, administered in the proper dosages and with great care, truly have the ability to motivate and energize the human mind into doing whatever it wishes to endeavor upon. In short, it can turn a simple man with simple goals, into a complex man with positive and evolving goals.

The definition of addiction is this: "a compulsive need for and use of a habit-forming substance (as heroin, nicotine, or alcohol) characterized by tolerance and by well-defined physiological symptoms upon withdrawal; broadly : persistent compulsive use of a substance known by the user to be harmful"

The keyword in this sentence is harmful. So I ask you, is the automobile addictive? Is electricity addictive? Is petroleum addictive? No, because the positives that these technologies bring to human beings far outweigh the harm being done. (I don't believe global warming will destroy us, LOL, so please don't anyone start commenting about the climate change!)

Now I shouldn't limit this message simply to opiate medications, as I believe other mind altering drugs can be just as useful to certain people. Certainly these drugs should be administered with great care and caution because of their tremendous power. In the same way that we should wrap electric cords in rubber, put seat belts and airbags in automobiles, and educate people about not pouring gasoline on themselves and then lighting a match.

When will we see that drugs are simply new technologies, in the same way as the automobile, electricity, and oil are new technologies? Granted these technologies are double edged swords, but with care and regulation we can use them to our advantage; so people like me can live their lives free of the enslaving diseases of anxiety and depression, not just physical pain. So people like me can have the energy and willpower to reach goals as impossibly out of reach as the moon is without the rocket.
 
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I have traveled in Mexico ,deep into Mexico with my 2nd cousins who are half white/half chicano aka mexican american,and we went to a poppy field owned by their family in Mexico.Since I was a blood relative of theirs I was allowed to go and see the opium poppys,harvested opium gum,and some heroin labs/conversion labs.This was in 2005 so it was not as dangerous as in recent years to be in Mexico.Anyway I and my 2nd cousins smoked some of the opium and watched part of the heroin conversion process there,and they made both tar and brown powder heroin there,each in it's own "lab" and we got to sample the brown powder which was clean and very pure,since we were at a production site,thats a given. We never smoked or did any of the tar while there as smoking the opium was plenty of fun and snorting the brown powder was great!! I have been to Columbia in the late 90's but have no relatives or family of family there,so I saw no opium poppys or anything,which was good since I was not "connected" by blood to anyone there.But I did get some powder heroin there pretty cheaply and it was very good quality and purity ,although it had been cut to maybe 50% pure I am guessing but it was a good high when snorting it.The police in columbia were a bit scary becasue I was with other "gringos" but my spanish was ok,and you can almost always bribe a columbian cop as they are paid very little money as salary. Anyway thats my adventures in Mexico and Columbia.My advice is be careful now days with over 28,000+ plus killed so far in Mexico because of the government trying to crack down on cartels there,and unless you are related be blood to someone who is a relative of a Mexican poppy farmer/heroin producer then do not even try to see that,as you will be killed for the hell of it and robbed.I would not even go down to where I was in Mexico now with my 2nd cousins to visit their mexican family there as violence is rampant.I just visit them in san Diego when I am out that way..
 
portugal has the most laxed drugs laws in the world. google drug laws of portugal and you will see they just released a study bout a month ago on how good of a success portugals take on drugs has been. would love to go there myself.
 
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