Roofies superior to other benzos?- listen to this...

[StaySedated]

flunitrazepam(rohypnol or "roofies") is often considered to be one of the best benzos for recreational use by benzo lovers(including myself :D). however, i was just speaking with a good friend of mine(who happens to be a drug dealer) about hooking me up with some roofies and he said "funny thing, roofies may be a rip off". i asked what he ment, and he told me about a little 'experiment' he did.

he asked four of his customers to try out "three different brands of roofies from different suppliers to see which was best". none of the four people knew each other and thought they were the only ones doing it. to be "fair", two were male and two were female. he each person different "roofies"(three of the same pill as it would take more than one pill) every day for three days. one pill was actual flunitrazepam(1mg.), one was lorazepam(1mg.; equal to flunitrazepam by weight potency- 1mg.=1mg., but often considered to be less recreational), and the "control" was hydroxyzine(25.mg; Rx-only sedative antihistamine with minimal anticholinergic side effects that is often used as a none addictive alternative to benzos).

over the three days, each got: 3mg. flunitrazepam on day 1, 3mg. lorazepam on day 2, and 75mg. hydroxyzine on day 3. each person had used benzos recreationaly as well as other drugs.

heres the results- all four said the hydroxyzine was bunk, three(2 males 1 female) said the two benzos felt no different at all, the fourth only remarked that the actual roofie lasted longer and thought it felt the same but "it was some sort of time release".

when he told me i was very suprised that 4 drug users could not tell the difference between lorazepam and roofies. even though both are equal by mg., i think roofies are more euphoric and intoxicating.

so, are roofies really no better than lorazepam or any other benzo for that matter?

 

[StaySedated]

bump. nobody is suprised with the results of this experiment?

 

[fryingsquirrel]

I'm not, I have said many times on here I wouldn't be able to tell benzos apart.

 

[PoppyLlama]

im not surprised that an average drug user couldnt tell the difference but an avid benzo user could tell the difference i know i could

 

[StaySedated]

come on, ROOFIES vs. ATIVAN, i think theres a remarkable difference...

 

[Droppersneck]

where the hell do you get rohypinol in america?

 

[kokaino]

well the results aren't exactly scientific, but i would definitely be able to tell the difference between flunitrazepam and lorazepam.

with that said, however, flunitrazepam is not all that its always cracked up to be. Don't get me wrong, it's one of my fav benzos that i've tried...but its not this killer hypnotic that some (many of whom havent even tried it) make it out to be.

I have found nitrazepam and triazolam to be stronger sedative-hypnotics than flunitrazepam. They also have a quicker onset.

Temazepam is far more recreational/euphoric and has a quicker onset of action.
Many people seem to say that lormetazepam and nimetazepam are also more recreational than flunitrazepam, but i haven't had the pleasure of tryin those 2 yet.

 

[cr250owner]

well the results aren't exactly scientific, but i would definitely be able to tell the difference between flunitrazepam and lorazepam.

with that said, however, flunitrazepam is not all that its always cracked up to be. Don't get me wrong, it's one of my fav benzos that i've tried...but its not this killer hypnotic that some (many of whom havent even tried it) make it out to be.

I have found nitrazepam and triazolam to be stronger sedative-hypnotics than flunitrazepam. They also have a quicker onset.

Temazepam is far more recreational/euphoric and has a quicker onset of action.
Many people seem to say that lormetazepam and nimetazepam are also more recreational than flunitrazepam, but i haven't had the pleasure of tryin those 2 yet.

I've never tried roofies, but your comment about them not being the sedative they're hyped up to be may be incorrect. Generally roofies are used in the date rape situation... so it's slipped to an unknowing person and more often than not.. that person is also drinking alcohol so the combo of roofie and alcohol will have it living up to the hype. I'd think.

 

[K'd-OUT-in-AZ]

I've never tried roofies, but your comment about them not being the sedative they're hyped up to be may be incorrect. Generally roofies are used in the date rape situation... so it's slipped to an unknowing person and more often than not.. that person is also drinking alcohol so the combo of roofie and alcohol will have it living up to the hype. I'd think.

No, they aren't all they are hyped up to be. Their sedative qualities are no more potent than triazolam in my opinion and less recreational than Temazepam.

 

[kokaino]

I've never tried roofies, but your comment about them not being the sedative they're hyped up to be may be incorrect. Generally roofies are used in the date rape situation... so it's slipped to an unknowing person and more often than not.. that person is also drinking alcohol so the combo of roofie and alcohol will have it living up to the hype. I'd think.

I didn't say flunitrazepam isn't a strong sedative - i said that its not as powerful as some claim it is. I have had enough experience with it to know. Triazolam and nitrazepam are by FAR the strongest hypnotic benzos i've tried to date.

Any benzo mixed with alcohol is going to knock a person out. In fact, several independent studies in Britain, Australia, and elsewhere have shown that temazepam is by far the deadliest benzo to mix with alcohol or any other CNS depressant. It's also the most dangerous benzo when taken alone (higher likelihood to cause OD). Pretty much all the studies corroborated each others findings.

Also, flunitrazepam's reputation as a date rape drug is totally undeserved. There were a few cases in the late 90's and the media had a field day with them. Many other benzos (especially midazolam, temazepam, diazepam, clonazepam, and even oxazepam have a history with date rape). Read the link below:

http://www.springerlink.com/content/yumw9rl9f6l8t9u1/

 

[K'd-OUT-in-AZ]

As what just stated above. Any benzodiazepine mixed with alcohol will knock somebody out who doesn't have a tolerance or been drinking a lot before hand.

 

[megawoof]

i much prefer midazloam to flunitrazepam but suppose everbody is different find that info about temazepam very interesting

 

[pally pete]

i have pink flunitrazepam powder

 

[phatass]

if this test was done with 1000 or 100 people it might have some scientific value.. but i don't think you can caaan base an expiriment with only 4 subjects

 

[K'd-OUT-in-AZ]

i have pink flunitrazepam powder

Have you confirmed that? I remember you asking about it. I've never heard of pink powder and there are no pills that are pink. Pure Flunitrazepam would be white powder.

 

[debaser]

I have tried both nitrazepam and flunitrazepam, and nitrazepam is more sedative, does the trick faster, but flunitrazepam is more recreational. At least for me.

 

[StaySedated]

imo "hypnotic" benzos (trialozam, flunitrazepam, nitrazepam) are more "intoxicating" like alcohol and barbiturates and anti-anxiety benzos(clonazepam, diazepam, alpralozam, lorazepam) generally have more of a unique effect(relaxed and content but not in a overly "fucked up" way like booze).

some benzos are strong at both effects like temazepam, flunitrazepam, alpralozam, and nitrazepam and generally cause the most euphoria(although clonazepam isn't really hypnotic and it's the 2nd most euphoric benzo to me).

anyway i think temazepam is the best.

 

[StaySedated]

if this test was done with 1000 or 100 people it might have some scientific value.. but i don't think you can caaan base an expiriment with only 4 subjects

true, but this dosen't make roofies look like they live up to their reputation.

i wonder what the results would be if methaqualone or secobarbital was put up against lorazepam... i'm sure the results would be different...

 

[brimz]

Nice bit of research i found it intrsting,
Can;t beat Nitrazepam in mho
Can't understand why people are getting all weird about what u said ?
probably jealous!!!

 

[brimz]

imo "hypnotic" benzos (trialozam, flunitrazepam, nitrazepam) are more "intoxicating" like alcohol and barbiturates and anti-anxiety benzos(clonazepam, diazepam, alpralozam, lorazepam) generally have more of a unique effect(relaxed and content but not in a overly "fucked up" way like booze).

some benzos are strong at both effects like temazepam, flunitrazepam, alpralozam, and nitrazepam and generally cause the most euphoria(although clonazepam isn't really hypnotic and it's the 2nd most euphoric benzo to me).

anyway i think temazepam is the best.

Temazepam is way 2 short acting to be compared 2 nitrazepam wha\t are u oin drugs