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How do "Heavenly Blue" Morning Glory seeds compare to other psychedelics?

Besides guessing what the effects might be based off of the molecular strucure...my experience with LSA was different than LSD.

I contribute this almost entirely to the fact that I ingested the seed matter.

I ate 750 seeds finely ground in a coffee grinder then placed in gel caps. This was the longest trip I have ever had. I think the seed matter provided a slow release effect for the LSA. Took 2 hours to come on. Effects lasted well into the next day, though intensity was not high.

The seed matter causes some long lasting nausea, that is present the entire trip and maybe longer. Woke up in the morning with a big head rush, though lack of food may have contributed.

I'm glad I took morning glory seeds and have done again once since, though other means of tripping that don't induce this nausea are a better choice for me.
 
lsa is chemically far weaker than lsd

Well...if you want to split hairs I would say LSA is actually quite potent. Yes, weaker than LSD. Sources such as erowid estimate it to be 1/10 to 1/30 the potency of LSD. As stated above, Hoffman recorded effects as low as 500 micrograms.
 
wait.. what's the title of this thread again?

Fractals said:
The term "weak psychedelic" baffles me.
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really? i dont see whats so confounding about it..

lsa is chemically far weaker than lsd in terms of its psychedelic effects. thats a fact, not an opinion. in terms of its shitty side-effects, i guess you could consider it stronger but thats not what i was referring to.. but i can see how everyone on this board would be anxious to split hairs over something so trivial.

anyway, theres really no reason to be "baffled" by the fact that some chemical substances are comparatively stronger than others.
 
mg seeds are nice. the trip lasted throughout the day until i went to sleep(still tripping, though not as hard) and today there is still some left over effects. could be considered an "afterglow"(although i think i'm still mildly tripping as my pupils are still dilated), i still have some minor visuals and a mental/body high but still have a psychedelic mental state- feel at peace with myself/ego is softened, feel connected to my surroundings and nature, looking outside and the hills, trees, grass and colorful flowers look so nice and the colors and light look so rich. i think this is just "the last stage" of the trip(first there's the "coming up" part when your mindstate changes and you have to remain calm, the "pre-peak" when visuals start and your enter a very psychedelic place in your mind, the peak similar to LSD when the trip is at its strongest and persists till you sleep, and the "last stage" when you wake up and described above).

yeah these seeds last a while(like other strong psychedelics). if you take a strong dose you will likely experience psychedelia for a couple days, not like my last mescaline trip where the peak lasted 36 hours followed by a 2 day afterglow but if you use a large amount of seeds you better be ready for a long but wonderful trip.
 
.Lucid. said:
really? i dont see whats so confounding about it..

lsa is chemically far weaker than lsd in terms of its psychedelic effects. thats a fact, not an opinion. in terms of its shitty side-effects, i guess you could consider it stronger but thats not what i was referring to.. but i can see how everyone on this board would be anxious to split hairs over something so trivial.

anyway, theres really no reason to be "baffled" by the fact that some chemical substances are comparatively stronger than others.
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LSA and LSD are similar in structure, but not in effect. Shulgin remarked that LSA on its own is only mildly psychedelic and leads to a tired, dreamy state for about 5 hours till you fall asleep.

like i've said, LSA is not the only compound in these seeds and it's effects are only part of the effects experienced from ingesting the seeds. there are quite a few drugs that are in the seeds, some are exactly like LSD in mechanism and effect(ex. LSH) and only differ from LSD in potentcy by weight(mcg. to mg.).

therefore, LSA by itself can't really be compared to LSD in effect but mg seeds can as they have other drugs very similar to LSD in effect.
 
demon66 said:
Do you know what other chemicals are in morning glory seeds?

Most of the literature on MG seeds refers to LSA with regards to its psychedelic properties.
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i know one is LSH, which differs from LSD only by weight potency. i can't remember any others, but wikipedia and erowid has more info on the chemical composition of MG seeds.
 
*it should be noted that the psychedelic drug content of the seeds varies from different sources and batches of seeds.

this difference in composition is why some have only got weak effects from the seeds. a potent batch of seeds can cause true LSD like psychedelic experiences and if you only get weak effects try a different batch or source.
 
nearjat said:
High dose HBWR seeds for me were like a longer lasting LSD with MDMA like tactile effects, amazing.Worst 2 hour comeup ever though.
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yeah the come up from these seeds can really drag out and induce anxiety which can end up ruining the trip.

i am anxiety/stress prone so i don't use psychedelics without benzos(i'm also addicted to benzos so i'd have to take some anyway :\). people who say benzos "ruin" or "dull" psychedelics are wrong imo. they chill you out and relax you when your in a psychedelic mindstate preventing 'bad trips' and allow your mind to expand in a calmer, peaceful manner and even make the trip more euphoric.

thats just me though, for those who use strong psychedelics without benzos i can only respect.
 
.Lucid. said:
lsa/lsd? whats lsa/lsd? i was talking about just lsa, which is psychedelically very weak compared to lsd. thanks though. 8)
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In that case, remove the LSD from my post and I still agree with my previous comment.

Psychedelics are not weak drugs, I suggest you experiment in higher doses with even LSA and then come return and say whether you feel it is 'weak' or not. It may not be as 'visually' intense in ways, but it's certainly not weak, they aren't something to be played around with in high doses in my opinion.
 
SpecialK_ said:
Psychedelics are not weak drugs, I suggest you experiment in higher doses with even LSA and then come return and say whether you feel it is 'weak' or not. It may not be as 'visually' intense in ways, but it's certainly not weak, they aren't something to be played around with in high doses in my opinion.
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again youve totally missed my point. im not saying all psychedelics are weak drugs. as far as the term "weak" is concerned, im speaking comparatively.. weak does not mean that it does not produce psychedelic effects, it just doesnt hold up to lsd in terms of chemical potency and in my opinion (and clearly in the opinion of several others here) lsa produces much less of a psychedelic experience.

as for your suggestion to experiment with higher doses of lsa.. lol. dont worry i spent plenty of time eatting myself sick with those fuckin seeds and doing tedious extractions before i had access to acid. and when i finally got my hands on some blotter for the first time i laughed at myself and all the time i wasted fucking around with those retarded seeds. what a joke. so thanks, but i think ill pass and stick with the real thing.
 
StaySedated said:
LSA and LSD are similar in structure, but not in effect. Shulgin remarked that LSA on its own is only mildly psychedelic and leads to a tired, dreamy state for about 5 hours till you fall asleep.

like i've said, LSA is not the only compound in these seeds and it's effects are only part of the effects experienced from ingesting the seeds. there are quite a few drugs that are in the seeds, some are exactly like LSD in mechanism and effect(ex. LSH) and only differ from LSD in potentcy by weight(mcg. to mg.).

therefore, LSA by itself can't really be compared to LSD in effect but mg seeds can as they have other drugs very similar to LSD in effect.
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sedated you are so annoying.

lol and why would you make a thread called "How do 'Heavenly Blue' Morning Glory seeds compare to other psychedelics" if a) "you cant compare lsa to lsd," and b) you already seem have all the answers ?
 
.Lucid. said:
sedated you are so annoying.

lol and why would you make a thread called "How do 'Heavenly Blue' Morning Glory seeds compare to other psychedelics" if a) "you cant compare lsa to lsd," and b) you already seem have all the answers ?
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you don't have be a dick man, i was just asking other people's opinion.
 
Feste said:
It looked more like you were just wanting people to back up your own opinions.
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when i started this thread i hadn't done them yet, so how would i have my own opinions. then when i tried them and posted about it, i just told what it felt like and found out more info and posted.

some of the people who disagreed were misinformed about the seeds, so i simply gave facts and said they can be quite psychedelic. but the main reason i started this thread was to hear what others had to say, not challenge them or have them back me up.
 
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