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Phenibut

I reckon you'd be OK with that. Better having one on, two off. Give it a go, though. It's not going to land you in particularly hot water, even if it is a little too much.
 
Ok well I have half of an OxyContin 80mg, so 40mg. Anyways I used to be a full blown Oxycodone addict with a habit that got up to 600mg/day.

I am just wondering if I took 20mg of OxyContin (chewed) if it would help some of the phenibut withdrawals - like the tachycardia and anxiety at all? I have no benzo's :(

Also the tachycardia could be from the huge dose of Lyrica I took today which was 825mgs and pretty stupid, since I just got put back on Lyrica. I was on it before for 3 years at 300mg twice daily.
 
Last night I had about 3.5g of Phenibut left and I decided to go for it and eat the whole thing.

And I have to say I was quite impressed. It gave me a nice mood lift, I was feeling very happy and I was even getting some MDMA-like entactogenic effects. I was walking around downtown Kiev with a huge smile on my face. The 'peak' only lasted about an hour, but I was still feeling pretty damn good after. I even had the urge to talk to random people 8o.

While it is no where near the overwhelming euphoria and empathy of MDMA or the nihilistic bliss of opiates/benzos, at doses of 3-4g Phenibut is actually a pretty decent drug. Very interesting MDMA-lite effects.
 
Supeudol said:
Also the tachycardia could be from the huge dose of Lyrica I took today which was 825mgs and pretty stupid, since I just got put back on Lyrica. I was on it before for 3 years at 300mg twice daily.
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Lyrica makes me feel like shit if I take more than 300mg. It's a weird one. It makes it quite un-abusable. I'm sure some oxy would calm the withdrawals. It certainly can't hurt. How long has it been now?

Sorry, I see it's been two days. You've probably got another couple to go. All I could do was lie down and watch TV. Just carry on taking Lyrica, but at a more sensible dose, and maybe have a few drinks. You're at the worst now.
 
Treacle said:
After a few times of pounding your GABA-b receptors and withdrawing from things, they simply won't take any more. You can have a break and abuse them again, but you'll get withdrawals after a few doses, and they'll be much more severe. Of course your GABA system goes back to normal after the withdrawal, it just won't take abuse lightly again. I'm not talking about GABA-a agonists here - alcohol, benzos. I have no problem with using these. They are separate in this respect.

x89: You've been told that it's going to end badly, but you carry on. Maybe you will get off lightly, even after finishing the tub, but I doubt it. You certainly wouldn't pull it off a second time.
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Did not know the difference between a and b.
What's it like coming off? Just anxiety? Will diazepam be enough to fend it off if / when it does come?
 
No! Diazepam won't touch the sides. That's the whole point. You are going to suffer, even if you taper.

Anxiety is the tip of the iceberg. Shaking, massive insomnia, inability to eat, hot and cold flushes. Muscles aches and spasms. The shits, possibly vomiting. It's unpleasant.
 
Treacle said:
No! Diazepam won't touch the sides. That's the whole point. You are going to suffer, even if you taper.

Anxiety is the tip of the iceberg. Shaking, massive insomnia, inability to eat, hot and cold flushes. Muscles aches and spasms. The shits, possibly vomiting. It's unpleasant.
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:| Hoping this doesn't come to pass, I'm almost out, I have plenty diaz left but that's it.

I'll try 'n take it easy on the rest of the tub but there's like 5g left of the 50g tub so idk.

Hopefully I won't be to obliterated...
 
Confused as to why I'm still not getting WDs from this, I've not had in 36 hours (yet have been heavily hitting the diaz / ethonol).

Other than that I feel just fine, other than being utterly wankered at this pit...
 
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I've ordered another 100g tub of Phenibut, my last 100g barely lasted a month and lead to no withdrawals despite no cycling on and off days with only a few breaks inbetween...

All in all, I really like it, I think it's under-appreciated. For me, it makes sleep a lot more pleasurable, makes me more social and in high doses can give a lot of euphoria.

I find it similar to Alcohol in high doses, but gives me a much more enjoyable experience than alcohol does...
 
It is most definitely under appreciated! I have more or less substituted this over kratom. Still got about 70 grams left. The withdrawals seem to hit some harder than others,bit like G i suppose. Took 1.5 grams friday morning before work,had a thouroughly pleasant day,singing along to Robbie fucking Williams just aint normal. Had another two grams today but i will not take for more than three days in a row.
 
Tub ran out 2 days ago and I'm feeling no negatives at all..

I've just finished my diaz though, that could be a bit rougher.
 
Does anyone find the lucid & vivid dreams a bit unbearable at times?

Don't get me wrong, it can be very fun at times, having dreams feel 100% real and remembering every small detail from them. Example: The other night I had a a quick dream about having a conversation on a forum, it felt perfectly real, and when I woke up I realized that I could remember the conversation fully and it even made a fair bit of sense, it was a very coherent conversation.
The first thing I did when waking up was check on my computer to see if I had perhaps sleepwalked and had a conversation on this forum, but could find no trace of it.

I've also experienced walking around my house, doing perfectly reasonable things, etc, only to wake up in disbelief that it was a dream. It's kind of like I full on trip when I fall asleep.

The problem however, is that sometimes, such as last night, it was simply too unbearable and realistic.

I experienced severe sleep paralysis for which felt like an hour, I kept slipping in and out of sleep, but during the times I was fully conscious, I was unable to move except slightly jerk my limbs, the more I fought it the worse it got. I experienced very vivid hallucinations, and I "imagined" that I managed to rock myself out of bed and stand on my knees, all the while feeling my entire body being numb, yet seeing every single detail of my room and even stroking my cat who was on my bed at the time, however after awhile I slowly gain conciousness while still paralyzed, and realized I had been asleep for a few minutes, I kept experincing myself waking up, only to realize it was a dream. Every time I stopped fighting it I'd fall asleep quickly, but it's a natural reaction to try move your body when you can't move it...

I find that when I'm tired and lie in bed, and close my eyes for a few minutes, I quickly become paralyzed before I fall asleep, so I'm conscious, but my body is asleep before my mind falls asleep...

I swear these hallucinations and experiences feel 100% real, I literally wake up spending awhile trying to figure out if what I experienced was real.

On the bright side, waking up remembering 6 or so dreams with fully coherent stories is quite exciting & interesting.

I'm seriously not exaggerating a single thing here... I had no idea dreams could feel so real and make so much sense. None of my dreams are abstract, but all make perfect sense with high attention to minor details...

TL: DR: This stuff is the trippiest thing I've ever done & sleeping becomes a full on adventure, at the cost of severe, long drawn out sleep paralysis & experiences which feel real.
 
I've experienced pretty much all of that when taking GBL, especially dreaming that you've got up and snapped out of it, but really you're just lying there. Never had it from phenibut. Just insanely deep sleep that even my house falling down wouldn't wake me. Different people will get different effects.
 
I find I can actually remember my dreams when I have it, I generally can't at all, I soon forget them after waking but it's bizarre.

Ordered a little more, I perhaps got off lightly last time, going to try and use it more for correcting a ruined sleeping pattern than an every night thing this time.

I can't really afford to take it every day anyway.
 
Yes, phenibut dreams can be intensely vivid and real as they used to be with GBL.

I often dream on phenibut that i have woken up and am up and about doing the usual stuff i do on a daily basis yet with bizarre twists,but it feels so real. I then 'awake' but into another dream,so i haven't actually awoken. These dream loops continue all through the night.

Last night i dreamt that my home had been broken into by chav scum. I had returned home from a night out,got to the bottom of my street to find a crowd of people and police looking up at my home. Three male chavs and a pikey bird were throwing all my personal belongings out the window, including porn mags.

I carried on walking making out that i didn't live there and walked around town waiting for the commotion to die down. I then returned and sheepishly started to pick up my belongings,including the porn mags scattered all over the street in front of drunken revellers who weren't really taking any notice.

I then entered my wrecked home and found guinea pig crap all over the floor.
 
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