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Chemical romances: Going on the pull while on MDMA.../pulling at raves?

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I often get really frustrated the day after I took mdma at raves cos I see plenty hot girls and they really turn me on not only for their physical attractiveness but for being into the same scene/music. I mean I find it super super sexy to see a hot 'rig slut' dancing to some deliciously grimey dnb or marching it out to some militant industrial teckno/gabber :).

I have however found a few issues with this proposed line of action...

Firstly at raves girls are not usually there specifically to pull and are often there with their bfs usually. As it's all about PLUR and all that I feel like it's a social violation to be getting all 'horndog' on girls at a rave although I want to lol! Also they mostly wanna dance rather than stand around waiting to get picked up like would be the case at a meat market.

On the flipside you could say love can happen anywhere and all that but I'm just saying those are some obvious hurdles to be met.

That said though, I have pulled a couple of times while at raves/E oriented settings but it certainly hasn't been consistent but saying that my effort to do so hasn't been consistent either :).

I'm not talking about getting with someone you already knew from your social circle who you went to the event with but specifically meeting them that night and having a 'chemical romance'

Now conversely there is going out to 'meat markets' where the girls are specifically going out to pull. I find these places abhorrent in terms of decor and general standard of consciousness of the people that go although for the sexual thing it is more conducive. I go to these places when not rolling to pull and usually wanna just get in and get out (no pun intended :)) as I hate the shallow environment. Even though it is shallow and all that I find making a connection with a girl your into at these places is still legit.

Anyway, back to raves. I really fucking love raver girls as they seem more ripe for a giggle -generally less conservative- but I am not so familiar with pulling at these scenes. Most of my sexual encounters come from the said meat market places and so my 'game' (to use a trite metaphor) is tailored for those places.

Because I love raver chicks so much though I'd love to pull a hot raver chick cos I could see them more cooler girls to chill with rather than 'pump and dumps' as is often the case with 'meat market' stock.

So I'm wondering if anyone has had any chemical romance stories, as I said, from meeting them 'cold' at raves and how it went down plus how I might go about tackling such an endeavour as a specific goal at a rave without coming off like a dirty 'letcher' :) to be caste out from the PLUR bubble of love.

What has usually been my experience in these places is I've been high the girls are high as well so they are happy to give hugs and all and it feels good at the time but it's really nothing cos you aren't making a connection but really just enjoying the tactile sensations while your on the drug.

I think the most fulfilling experiences I've had on mdma have been making connections with new people, be it guy or girl, though for this thread I'm talking bout with girls so it could develop into a sexual thing.

One of the times I did pull a girl while rolling at a club it was really cool as we just got chatting and made a good connection and convo was just flowing and 'it just happened' as the old cliche goes. She turned out to be pretty psycho tho and had just got out of mental hospital. Went back to my place with this other guy who I know who also happened to know her and this other girl who was her sister. He ends up fucking his sister in my bed for a bit but my one would start doing stupid stuff like saying spiders are everywhere every time I tried to do more than kiss her and saying how her last bf hung himself. I think she was just making excuses now tho in hindsight more than anything cos back then I was less experienced and I think I was trying to get down to business too fast (actually I was still a virgin back then now I think of it so no wonder I wasn't 'smooth') so she was just saying anything to make me stop going so fast. I eventually just gave up and they all left.

Ye so what are all your experiences with this?

How do you make a connection beyond that of the drug haze. I don't think it will be that hard once one on one with a girl it's just I have never put my mind to doing it and usually just give up and dance instead. The main problem though I think is that I am guessing most girls aren't single there and come with bfs vs. the meat market places where girls are much more likely to be single and also wanna meet a guy. So those added obstacles are what will prove challenging.

Thoughts?
 
ok ive been to quite a few raves. i pulled some ladys at a small rave last weekend. wasn't on MDMA, but i was on alcohol and mephedrone, which is kinda similar. this combo seems to make me dance pretty well at times. depending on the music. at this event was house music, which i can bust out some funky moves to. there was lots of nice women there. i clocked them but ignored them for a bit, or smiled and said hi but left them to it. to start off with i was dancing with a few mates busting some moves.

i split with them and made a slow circle around the room, dancing as i went but not running over to the nearest girl and creeping. spotted some hot girls i knew so ended up dancing with them for a small amount of time. this drew attention from other people, so i split with them and went over to more people. danced, high 5, shake hands, move on to others....ended up drawing more attention.
went off to get another drink, came back into the room dancing like a beast... immediately spotted some people i knew from a previous night. they came running over, danced, had lots of fun. i saw 2 little brunettes that were dancing on their own, they had been there the entire time and i knew they had seen me.

i went over and danced with them, immediately got a decent reaction... but i didnt stay there. the room was getting busy. 2 mins dancing with them i left and went back to other people. then went back to them. then back to others. in the end they waved for me to dance with them, body language was good, danced close. told me i was a wicked dancer, got their numbers. went to the bar with them, spoke to some blonde whilst i was with these 2 girls, got the blondes number. went back in the room with the 2 brunettes, half hour later saw the blonde, got a snog. later in the night ended up sleeping with one of the brunettes
 
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I often get really frustrated the day after I took mdma at raves cos I see plenty hot girls and they really turn me on not only for their physical attractiveness but for being into the same scene/music. I mean I find it super super sexy to see a hot 'rig slut' dancing to some deliciously grimey dnb or marching it out to some militant industrial teckno/gabber :).

I have however found a few issues with this proposed line of action...

Firstly at raves girls are not usually there specifically to pull and are often there with their bfs usually. As it's all about PLUR and all that I feel like it's a social violation to be getting all 'horndog' on girls at a rave although I want to lol! Also they mostly wanna dance rather than stand around waiting to get picked up like would be the case at a meat market.

On the flipside you could say love can happen anywhere and all that but I'm just saying those are some obvious hurdles to be met.

That said though, I have pulled a couple of times while at raves/E oriented settings but it certainly hasn't been consistent but saying that my effort to do so hasn't been consistent either :).

I'm not talking about getting with someone you already knew from your social circle who you went to the event with but specifically meeting them that night and having a 'chemical romance'

Now conversely there is going out to 'meat markets' where the girls are specifically going out to pull. I find these places abhorrent in terms of decor and general standard of consciousness of the people that go although for the sexual thing it is more conducive. I go to these places when not rolling to pull and usually wanna just get in and get out (no pun intended :)) as I hate the shallow environment. Even though it is shallow and all that I find making a connection with a girl your into at these places is still legit.

Anyway, back to raves. I really fucking love raver girls as they seem more ripe for a giggle -generally less conservative- but I am not so familiar with pulling at these scenes. Most of my sexual encounters come from the said meat market places and so my 'game' (to use a trite metaphor) is tailored for those places.

Because I love raver chicks so much though I'd love to pull a hot raver chick cos I could see them more cooler girls to chill with rather than 'pump and dumps' as is often the case with 'meat market' stock.

So I'm wondering if anyone has had any chemical romance stories, as I said, from meeting them 'cold' at raves and how it went down plus how I might go about tackling such an endeavour as a specific goal at a rave without coming off like a dirty 'letcher' :) to be caste out from the PLUR bubble of love.

What has usually been my experience in these places is I've been high the girls are high as well so they are happy to give hugs and all and it feels good at the time but it's really nothing cos you aren't making a connection but really just enjoying the tactile sensations while your on the drug.

I think the most fulfilling experiences I've had on mdma have been making connections with new people, be it guy or girl, though for this thread I'm talking bout with girls so it could develop into a sexual thing.

One of the times I did pull a girl while rolling at a club it was really cool as we just got chatting and made a good connection and convo was just flowing and 'it just happened' as the old cliche goes. She turned out to be pretty psycho tho and had just got out of mental hospital. Went back to my place with this other guy who I know who also happened to know her and this other girl who was her sister. He ends up fucking his sister in my bed for a bit but my one would start doing stupid stuff like saying spiders are everywhere every time I tried to do more than kiss her and saying how her last bf hung himself. I think she was just making excuses now tho in hindsight more than anything cos back then I was less experienced and I think I was trying to get down to business too fast (actually I was still a virgin back then now I think of it so no wonder I wasn't 'smooth') so she was just saying anything to make me stop going so fast. I eventually just gave up and they all left.

Ye so what are all your experiences with this?

How do you make a connection beyond that of the drug haze. I don't think it will be that hard once one on one with a girl it's just I have never put my mind to doing it and usually just give up and dance instead. The main problem though I think is that I am guessing most girls aren't single there and come with bfs vs. the meat market places where girls are much more likely to be single and also wanna meet a guy. So those added obstacles are what will prove challenging.

Thoughts?

her sister?

im not sure if you made an error that entire thesis paper of a post n then i saw that sooo i wonder, is this some arkansas ravin you're doin or is this a mistake

:) sorry had to ask

if it helps u any, im not smooth with the ladies either, and meeting girls at certain places with the sole intention of hooking up that night is not my fortay either
 
Good breakdown my man.

i was on alcohol and mephedrone

....and proof you can pull while stinking of cat's piss! :)

Was this a houseparty?

Housearty would be easier I think than full on down and dirty warehouse/outdoor rave, though I'm sure the same rules -being the life of the party- would apply to that too.

With houseparties I always felt there is at least some sense of that preapproved vibe cos by very virtue of being there you must, or at least it's assumed, that you know someone there already so helps with others being comfy with you should you approach them.

Also the thing with house parties is that your more enclosed (so whatever you're doing it's more likely everyone is gonna see, be that good or bad lol) so that will have a cumulative effect throughout the night.

I guess it's mostly the same with a club/outdoor rave but just diluted a bit due to being bigger.
 
her sister?

im not sure if you made an error that entire thesis paper of a post n then i saw that sooo i wonder, is this some arkansas ravin you're doin or is this a mistake

:) sorry had to ask

if it helps u any, im not smooth with the ladies either, and meeting girls at certain places with the sole intention of hooking up that night is not my fortay either

lols! yup an error.

Meant to be the other girl's sister.
 
ha! let's see:

first, it has to be at a point where i'm not completely sweaty and disgusting and my make up is not running down my face and my outfit is still together because anybody who is attracted to me at that point is most definately a creeper. in an ideal scenario, he has lost his group of friends as i have mine (and do often). SOMEHOW, i catch his eye, though I am not the type to dress in straight lingerie or even neon fluffies or bikini tops or anything. He will be wearing regular clothes (jeans and a t-shirt or a polo, no UFO pants, no muscle shirts, and absolutely no binkies or wings). And he is moving, dancing but not all crazy with it - and masculinely. he'd be rolling but not peaking. i'd be close to peaking. he can't be grinding his teeth or licking his lips or smacking his mouth or any of that. we'd dance for a bit, but not too close because i'm not a fan of dancing with people - too much commitment. he'd point out something on me that he likes, and i him. and eventually he'd pull me aside and we'd talk. he'd just... i don't know... be on my level. Calm and happy. But he'd completely be in charge! I hate a pussy ass bitch. he'd be interested in what i have to say and not just be lurkin trying to get in my... tutu. He'd be tall, and not a little baby. I don't like young guys. anywhere from 20-23 is perfect. but he'd not be SUPER into the rave scene ... as if... he'd already been through it and was starting to get over it. but he couldn't be a snob about it.

we'd tire of talking, dance again, and just start macking all dirtynastygross.

the rest would be history!

Interesting, your a dance first then talk kinda gal eh? my mummmy warned me about your types!

But on a scholarly note I find that it's harder to communicate on dancefloor vs. talking to someone off the dancefloor THEN going on dancefloor is cool. I'm sure some people who are better dancers than me it;s not the case but words are more my forte :).

I am more likely to creep a girl out on the dancefloor by doing one minor thing which they take a disliking to which immediately creeps them out and infinitely labels me as a social pariah than I am if talking though I still fuck up when talking a un/healthy amount too :).

I'm good at dancing and absolutely adore a good grind! but I find it can be hit and miss if our vibes aren't already in synch (plus I imagine it would be weird grinding to techno lols! but I'm sure still fun! :)). So sometimes it can go right into dancing from the getgo but usually I find it's better to get some sort of a vibe going off the dancefloor (whilst taking a breather sitting down or at bar for instance)- get in line with each other's chi 1st baby then dancing is all the better.
 
similar to a club, i guess. but its not a club... or a warehouse... or a freeparty (unless of course its free entry, which more often its not. especially when a well known artist is playing)
 
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well, no personal experience...odd as it sounds, i usually ignore people i dont know at raves

but a good friend of mine met his gf "cold" at a party at the beginning of the summer, so like 4 months ago or so, and they're goin strong
 
^cool.

Well it isn't odd to me as I pretty much ignore anyone I don't want anything from, praise big city living for this.

Not totally but you know how it goes.

I wanna fuck these girls hence my interest. :)
 
ok ive been to quite a few raves. i pulled some ladys at a small rave last weekend. wasn't on MDMA, but i was on alcohol and mephedrone, which is kinda similar. this combo seems to make me dance pretty well at times. depending on the music. at this event was house music, which i can bust out some funky moves to. there was lots of nice women there. i clocked them but ignored them for a bit, or smiled and said hi but left them to it. to start off with i was dancing with a few mates busting some moves.

i split with them and made a slow circle around the room, dancing as i went but not running over to the nearest girl and creeping. spotted some hot girls i knew so ended up dancing with them for a small amount of time. this drew attention from other people, so i split with them and went over to more people. danced, high 5, shake hands, move on to others....ended up drawing more attention.
went off to get another drink, came back into the room dancing like a beast... immediately spotted some people i knew from a previous night. they came running over, danced, had lots of fun. i saw 2 little brunettes that were dancing on their own, they had been there the entire time and i knew they had seen me.

i went over and danced with them, immediately got a decent reaction... but i didnt stay there. the room was getting busy. 2 mins dancing with them i left and went back to other people. then went back to them. then back to others. in the end they waved for me to dance with them, body language was good, danced close. told me i was a wicked dancer, got their numbers. went to the bar with them, spoke to some blonde whilst i was with these 2 girls, got the blondes number. went back in the room with the 2 brunettes, half hour later saw the blonde, got a snog. later in the night ended up sleeping with one of the brunettes

i'd say the reason this method works comes down to playing the good old "hard to get" game. it's a proven method. if you spot a lady you're interested in, make her notice you. give her a bit of attention- perhaps some eye contact, flash a smile or a wink, but don't immediately approach her. make your way around the room afterwards, saying hello or whatever to others, while she can clearly watch you do so. get in a few more eye locks before you actually approach her. then just play it cool and casual. don't immediately pour out that you want to fuck her, that can often be a total turn off- though sometimes is hot under certain circumstances. keep the convo light and do some dancing. take your time getting into more intimate dancing. take breaks and chat with eachother on the side. do this, and the night should get more intense between the two of you.

guys come across as creepers when they just jump into your circle and start feeling you up or talking dirty. you've got to build up to these things. you can't be coming off all desperate for a pull. and confidence is key.

Interesting, your a dance first then talk kinda gal eh? my mummmy warned me about your types!

But on a scholarly note I find that it's harder to communicate on dancefloor vs. talking to someone off the dancefloor THEN going on dancefloor is cool. I'm sure some people who are better dancers than me it;s not the case but words are more my forte :).

I am more likely to creep a girl out on the dancefloor by doing one minor thing which they take a disliking to which immediately creeps them out and infinitely labels me as a social pariah than I am if talking though I still fuck up when talking a un/healthy amount too :).

I'm good at dancing and absolutely adore a good grind! but I find it can be hit and miss if our vibes aren't already in synch (plus I imagine it would be weird grinding to techno lols! but I'm sure still fun! :)). So sometimes it can go right into dancing from the getgo but usually I find it's better to get some sort of a vibe going off the dancefloor (whilst taking a breather sitting down or at bar for instance)- get in line with each other's chi 1st baby then dancing is all the better.

what exactly is this one minor thing that turns us ladies away?
also, it's acceptable to first get down to dancing and then catch up with the talking later on, like on a break. i've made plenty of connections with guys which started out just dancing. the talking came later/at the bar or whatever. get your bodies in synch and then your minds to follow. it can work either way, but like i said, don't just start grinding on her leg and feeling her up right away. work up to that.

^cool.

Well it isn't odd to me as I pretty much ignore anyone I don't want anything from, praise big city living for this.

Not totally but you know how it goes.

I wanna fuck these girls hence my interest. :)

this could also be what's fucking it up for you. don't focus all of your attention on the one or two ladies you want to get with. following making eye contact or some kind of connection with the one you have in mind, talk to lots of girls/people so that she can see you. that way she doesn't feel like your "stalking" her, so to speak. it's that hard to get thing again. if you have made some kind of connection with her prior to talking or dancing with some other girls, she'll know your sociable and it can even instill a sort of "jealousy" which could even lead to her approaching you.

give it a shot.
 
Don't seem desperate.
Don't invade her personal space
Compliment one thing about her, but not a bunch of things cuz thats creepy. Mayber her candy... some girls put alot of effort into their bracelets
 
Actually I didn't mean this to get into a discussion for how to pull girls IN GENERAL, I am well versed in that or, at least in theory; and sometimes in practice on good days :).

My main impetus for writing this was the apparent differences between pulling at a rave vs where I normally go- mainstream meatmarket type places.

Tbh, I suppose girls are girls are girls wherever you find them (though some places are more conducive to meeting them than others).

The only reason I haven't really pulled at these places is cos I haven't tried I think cos like I say I usually have gone to raves only as a place where I could take E/whatever in an atmosphere where I wouldn't worry about being judged.

Like this other weekend when I went to a hardcore 'do' girls were coming to sit next to me, and I went up to a few and said hi but cos I was high, specifically peaking at one point I was morose and just sat there like a lump not saying anything. The other times when they came and sat I was like 'I can't be fucked as I'm too wrecked' and as we all know THE MAN MUST TAKE THE INTIIATIVE- so go the immutable laws of attraction.

When I go out expressly to pull on the town I actually expressly make a point of staying sober because I want to be 100% with my skills as a cunninlynguist (lol just had to force that play on words in since I listened to a couple of their tracks last night).

So the main 'barrier' pulling at raves is that I am too fucked up and can't be bothered. I know E makes you open and all but I find it a drag still and even though starting a convo sober may be initially harder I think it's best overall having my wits about me.

I think I'll go out to a rave or two and not take anything just like I'd usually go on the town cos my charismatic performances are at their best while sober and I find girls give me all the buzz I want. Then once I get myself some raver chicka I can take a buzz with them at my leisure either at a later date or make it a rule to pull first and only drop after. That would be sweeet actually; coming up after having just made a connection with a new girl). Rather than relying on the drug for kicks it would just boost up an already great moment.

Laying the groundwork I think would best be done sober in a more disciplined manner as being fucked up screws up my mental capabilities so I wanna know my priorities and stick to them.
 
well, no personal experience...odd as it sounds, i usually ignore people i dont know at raves


fuck that i speak to loads of people. even when i go clubbing, i go with a group of friends then literally split with them and wonder around dancing with people, chatting to randoms etc. met some very cool interesting people and had deep long conversations
 
its really not that hard if you can work out the 'up for it' vibe. i've only once pulled a girl at a rave (i am a girl, it was for a threesome with my boyf) and it was the easiest pull ever. you can plant the idea in their heads over an evening without spending too much time with them or mentioning anything explicit. then when the time feels right mention something like that maybe the best times you've had raving were AFTER the rave. i suspect that this only works with a certain type of girl but i think there's probably quite a few of those types at most raves!
 
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