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"FDA bans Piracetam" - email from vendor

Weird. Better grab another 500 grams... lasts me years. But my current supply I bought like 4 years ago is running low by now.
 
You know why they are targeting it, don't you?

Out of all the racetams, piracetam is the only one that combines so favorably with MDMA that it actually restores the "magic" - people are catching on. I remember like 2 years ago whenever we would go to a rave, we would all take piracetam for 5 days beforehand and double dose an hour before dropping. We all got our skulls fucked. Piracetam + MDMA feels like neuro-electric impulses are going through your brain. I swear I can feel new synapses being built when on that combo. And the two have a synergy that I haven't found with any other MDMA mix... and when you mix piracetam with MDA... watch out. CRAZY shit!

I have a whole group of friends that do this - and all my burning man friends swear it makes LSD better too.
 
Would it be easy for me to find a legitimate supplier if I did a google search? If someone could point me in the right direction without breaking rules that would be awesome (I know it's not an RC...I believe I have seen amazon.com selling it)
 
What do you mean it's not an RC? What's the definition of RC to you?
 
It's a nootropic. I would consider an RC a "research chemical" - a chemical that has not been thoroughly researched (usually popular ones are of recreational value) and the long term effects in humans are unknown. Usually quasi-legal as well. Piracetam has been around for over 50 years and has been being used in Europe for a very long time with tons of studies documenting effects.

What about this stuff? Would this be legit and/or of good quality? *snip*
 
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i really don't think they can start fully regulating this stuff. its obviously not going to be DEA scheduled, meaning it can/will be sold in bulk "not for human consumption."
 
thenightwatch said:
i really don't think they can start fully regulating this stuff. its obviously not going to be DEA scheduled, meaning it can/will be sold in bulk "not for human consumption."
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This all changes if it becomes a pharmaceutical.

And I ordered a lot of stuff from *snip* - its all been great - just avoid their phenibut. Very inconsistent.
 
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MagickalKat777 said:
This all changes if it becomes a pharmaceutical.
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i'm not sure how to look up the exact laws/regulations involved, but the OP says

"The FDA has recently informed retailers and distributors that Piracetam is being marked as a drug. That it is not legal to sell as a dietary supplement."
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(emphasis mine)

that leads me to believe that it could still be sold so long as it's marked "not for human consumption." whether or not anyone would actually do it is another story though, i suppose.
 
That is true that it can be marketed that way but if it becomes a drug, distributed by the pharmaceutical companies, it will be illegal to sell domestically. Importing will be risky considering the sizeable amount of compound that would be going through the mail.
 
It's never going to become a drug, there's no way to patent it in the US at this point. It's forever a 'research chemical' here.
 
In 2004 they said it doesn't qualify as a dietary supplement cuz it was authorized as an IND and was not sold as a food or supplement before IND authorization. Technical:

Under 21 U.S.C. 350b(a), the manufacturer or distributor of a dietary supplement
containing a new dietary ingredient that has not been present in the food supply as an
article used for food in a form in which the food has not been chemically altered must
submit to FDA, at least 75 days before the dietary ingredient is introduced or delivered for
introduction into interstate commerce, information that is the basis on which the
manufacturer or distributor has concluded that a dietary supplement containing such new
dietary ingredient will reasonably be expected to be safe. FDA reviews this information to
determine whether it provides an adequate basis for such a conclusion. Under section
350b(a)(2), there must be a history of use or other evidence of safety establishing that the
new dietary ingredient,when used under the conditions recommended or suggested in the
labeling of the dietary supplement will reasonably be expected to be safe. If this
requirementi s not met, the dietary supplementi s considered to be adulterated under
U.S.C. 342(f)(l)(B) because there is inadequate information to provide reasonable
assurance that the new dietary ingredient does not present a significant or unreasonable risk
of illness or injury.

FDA has carefully considered the information in your submission, and the agency has
concerns about the evidence on which you rely to support your conclusion that a dietary
supplement containing Piracetam will reasonably be expected to be safe.

Your product is excluded from the definition of "dietary supplement" under 21 U.S.C.
321(ff)(3)(B). Piracetam is an article authorized as an investigational new drug (IND) for
which substantial clinical investigations have been instituted in the United States, and the
existence of such investigations has been made public. The results of at least two clinical
studies conducted under authorized INDs were published in peer reviewed journals. In
addition, there is no evidence that Piracetam was marketed as a dietary supplement or a
food prior to the authorization to investigate Piracetam as a new drug. Therefore Piracetam
is excluded from the statutory definition of a dietary supplement under 21 US.C.
321(ff)(3)(B).

In summary, Piracetam is not a dietary supplement under the Federal Food, Drug, and
Cosmetic Act. Moreover, the product appears to be a drug under the Act and thus subject
to the regulatory requirements of drugs.
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