Feeling of uncleanliness...

[ChemicalInterest]

Hi everyone, I've been rolling around bluelight for awhile now, just finally decided to post so I'll consider this a (in)formal introduction of sorts.

Anyway, I've noticed that whenever I take psychedelics (usually acid or shrooms) in combination with other substances - mainly meth, opiates or ether - or within the aftermath of use of those drugs I get a feeling of dirtiness, contamination, and/or nausea for the first buildup of the trip and due to this feeling i stop using the "other drugs" for the duration of the trip.

The feeling of contamination tends to dissipate fairly quickly and is sometimes (rarely) accompanied by vomiting. During the trip I'll come to the conclusion that it's the "other drugs" which cause the dirty feeling, and that I need to get them out via sweating, vomiting, urination, etc..

After the trip ends this idea persists for a couple days usually, and stay away from these "other drugs" i mentioned more-so than I usually would. Also, if I do take any of the aforementioned drugs while this idea is still in my head, i get a heavy anxiety feeling and worriness before they fully kick-in.

Because of this I often times use psychedelics in a sort-of detox/spiritual-cleansing/purification ritual at times. I find it to be very effective when done properly, and I was just kind-of wondering if anyone here on BL has a similar experience, any ideas on the cause of such events (whether it be a physical or wholly psychological reaction), or really any input what-so-ever?

Thanks a lot!

 

[McTwist]

Maybe you are realizing that those other drugs are harmful, more destructive and "unclean" for the body and mind. I have the same reaction to things like tobacco and processed foods which are very unhealthy. Psychedelics allow me to see these things more readily. Now I rarely eat processed foods; actually, they make me feel dirty and sick whenever I do eat them.

 

[Fornax55]

Yeah, I get the same sort of thing from acid. I can't do street drugs, because I can feel the filth that's in them traveling around my body. I can't smoke cigarettes, can't eat unhealthy food, etc. etc. In a way I suppose it's a good thing because it sort of gives you an insight as to how gross and harmful some of these things really are.

Judging by what you said, it sounds like your body knows what you should do (stay clean from the other drugs) and is using the acid to try and help convince your mind of the same thing.

 

[t.ska]

i get a general feeling of feeling dirty during and after lsd trips. i think its cause im so sweaty hahahaha

 

[TheAzo]

Euhm...

I'd belive what the acid is telling you!
Meth, opiates, and ether are dirty nasty unhealthy drugs which should be avoided, and tend to make a mess out of what could be a beautiful psychedelic experience.

 

[Teotzlcoatl]

Do NOT combine psychedelics and narcotics... it's the best way to make yourself totally nuts!

 

[tBirdee]

^Technically meth isn't a narcotic.

Sorry dude, I don't want to start an argument, just had say it.

 

[Fornax55]

i get a general feeling of feeling dirty during and after lsd trips. i think its cause im so sweaty hahahaha

me too, but that's usually because i'm rolling around with a clusterfuck of people in some forest or climbing mountains or what have you.

 

[TheAzo]

Meth + any psychedelic, in particular, sounds like a horrifically bad combination...

And ether? who the hell abuses ether? Please tell me you have lab grade, not the ether in starting fluid (which is mixed ~50:50 with random volatile hydrocarbons - the toxicity of the other components is every bit as bad as huffing glue/paint/etc). Even pure ether is a shitty drug....

Opiates and psychedelics I can see the appeal of - sit there oh so comfortably, with no anxiety, watching the colors... Havn't done this (yet), but that's the only one of those drugs that I can imagine wanting to take when tripping.

 

[Fornax55]

I dropped acid once, and actually made sure to leave my friends before the trip was over because I was so damn excited to see how acid and heroin would feel together.

I got home and proceeded to load up my tinfoil and smoke it. I was thoroughly unimpressed - again, I felt dirty and gross. I think that's because the hypersensitive psychedelic state of my body was much more aware of the impurities in street heroin. It leads me to wonder if pure, extracted opiates would offer a better experience. Thinking about it, I'm sure poppy seed tea would be beautiful in combination with acid.

 

[mezid]

i sorta get a dirty feeling when on shrooms. like my skins leaking or that i have some sort of fluidy crap on me.....and im pretty sure im not sweating

 

[any major dude]

Hi everyone, I've been rolling around bluelight for awhile now, just finally decided to post so I'll consider this a (in)formal introduction of sorts.

Anyway, I've noticed that whenever I take psychedelics (usually acid or shrooms) in combination with other substances - mainly meth, opiates or ether - or within the aftermath of use of those drugs I get a feeling of dirtiness, contamination, and/or nausea for the first buildup of the trip and due to this feeling i stop using the "other drugs" for the duration of the trip.

The feeling of contamination tends to dissipate fairly quickly and is sometimes (rarely) accompanied by vomiting. During the trip I'll come to the conclusion that it's the "other drugs" which cause the dirty feeling, and that I need to get them out via sweating, vomiting, urination, etc..

After the trip ends this idea persists for a couple days usually, and stay away from these "other drugs" i mentioned more-so than I usually would. Also, if I do take any of the aforementioned drugs while this idea is still in my head, i get a heavy anxiety feeling and worriness before they fully kick-in.

Because of this I often times use psychedelics in a sort-of detox/spiritual-cleansing/purification ritual at times. I find it to be very effective when done properly, and I was just kind-of wondering if anyone here on BL has a similar experience, any ideas on the cause of such events (whether it be a physical or wholly psychological reaction), or really any input what-so-ever?

Thanks a lot!

This is actually quite common. Bill W, the founder of alcoholics anonymous wanted to use LSD in treatment of alcoholics, and behavior modification therapy using psychedelics was studied some in the 60s and is beginning to see a resurgence. Also, ibogaine is used in addiction clinics in several countries with a substantial degree of success.

Euhm...

I'd belive what the acid is telling you!
Meth, opiates, and ether are dirty nasty unhealthy drugs which should be avoided, and tend to make a mess out of what could be a beautiful psychedelic experience.

Solid advice. During periods in my life when i was using a lot of speed or opiates or what have you, i wasn't really using psychedelics, and when I started to use psychedelics again my consumption of those substances curtailed rapidly. Now I'll still take an odd painkiller every now and then, but its quite rare, been months since i last had an opiate.

I dropped acid once, and actually made sure to leave my friends before the trip was over because I was so damn excited to see how acid and heroin would feel together.

I got home and proceeded to load up my tinfoil and smoke it. I was thoroughly unimpressed - again, I felt dirty and gross. I think that's because the hypersensitive psychedelic state of my body was much more aware of the impurities in street heroin. It leads me to wonder if pure, extracted opiates would offer a better experience. Thinking about it, I'm sure poppy seed tea would be beautiful in combination with acid.

Don't want to encourage any bad habits here, but i found morphine & LSD to be an excellent combination, but i did this during a period of my life when i was not using opiates frequently.

Meth + any psychedelic, in particular, sounds like a horrifically bad combination...

And ether? who the hell abuses ether? Please tell me you have lab grade, not the ether in starting fluid (which is mixed ~50:50 with random volatile hydrocarbons - the toxicity of the other components is every bit as bad as huffing glue/paint/etc). Even pure ether is a shitty drug....

Opiates and psychedelics I can see the appeal of - sit there oh so comfortably, with no anxiety, watching the colors... Havn't done this (yet), but that's the only one of those drugs that I can imagine wanting to take when tripping.

Most psychedelics plus speed has potential to go horribly wrong. In my case its usually increased the anxiety & paranoia quite a bit. Have had a few good times with coke & L, but that was years ago and i certainly couldn't, in good conscience, recommend any other human being do that. Ether plus psyches is pretty cool. More or less like nitrous, but obviously somewhat different. And I had a friend steal some from a chemistry lab, so it was the good stuff

 

[abstrakt]

Psychedelics usually do not allow you to deceive yourself. Truth will be confronted if you continue with them. And I think, if we can be honest with ourselves about this, it is obviously a good thing.

I could have something negative in my life, be it a drug addiction, a relationship, etc., and lie to myself about it for years.... But a good psychedelic would cause me to confront the truth of this situation. It would strip me of my rationalizations and denials and allow me to view the bare truth. Most people I've met who have really bad heroin/opiate addictions say that they do not like psychedelics at all anymore. I really believe that this is why... The truth isn't always easy.

I entirely stopped drinking alcohol over a year ago because of the impressions I've gotten of the nature of alcohol while on psychedelics. This had nothing to do with abusive/addictive use. I just realized, "This stuff is not good for the soul or the mind. I'm not going to do that to myself." Seeing other people drunk on numerous occasions while on LSD or another psychedelic played a big part in this.

Just my 2 cents. Maybe you should listen to what you seem to be telling yourself .

 

[Outta Pocket]

I could never drink alcohol or huff jenkem or whathaveyou while in altered states, however experiences with oxycodone and LSD were filled w/ nothing but bliss. That being said, I have never had a habit; sounds like you can no longer suppress the guilt that accompanies your opiate use, etc. while tripping

 

[nomis]

I find that I usually have beer or cider in my at several points during most psychedelic experiences.

 

[silver_tree]

These sorts or self-critical realizations are common, I agree. The perennial problem of course is transforming the new understanding into lasting change. I mean, it's kind of a drag figuring out the same shit over and over again. For this reason, I find myself ever more interested in a high-dose LSD session, loosely guided/conducted in the Hubbard tradition with an eye toward transcendence, 'reimprinting,' and so on.

 

[PriestTheyCalledHim]

It's could be the opiates and crystal?

As odd as it sounds smoking herb can make me feel dirty or unclean. I've never felt this way when I was taking Adderall IR or various opiates. I never felt that way from LSD or shrooms either.

 

[carbon unit]

All I know is that for me, taking a bath or shower midway into a trip is a must (if circumstances allow of course). I get a sense of 'dirty energy' with substances and always feel more relaxed and renewed after a water encounter.




Bach's Crab Apple flower essence is the 'fix'.

 

[Captain.Heroin]

Heroin with LSD is a good combination. If you don't enjoy it then save the euphorants for the comedown.

I wouldn't try doing meth and LSD, only because I get enough stimulation out of LSD itself.

i sorta get a dirty feeling when on shrooms. like my skins leaking or that i have some sort of fluidy crap on me.....and im pretty sure im not sweating

I've always enjoyed the tactile sensations of mushroom and salvia... I can understand it would be bothersome to most people. Then again I also get deep tactile sensations from cannabis by itself.