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The 6-APB thread

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Frogster said:
No, but thats what i would like to happen. Cause only then we would know it for real. In future, i will care that i call it "presumed genuine" until its tested. Sorry, my mistake.
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LOL.. no offence mate but i have heard the word genuine far to much on the multiple 6-apb threads, my son is born friday and it looks like time has run out for me now, no 24 hour windows free in my life for the forseeable future
 
pmjkerr said:
Great TR gordonbrown! Sounds like a good time all round. Two questions.
Did you feel like you could have redosed at say 2.30 - 3am once you had returned home?
The day after while vegeing out, did you eat a fair amount or find yourself very hungry?

Cheers again for the report.
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No problem.

RE redosing: SWIM personally didn't feel like redosing, but SWIM thinks that's more of a personal attitude thing. SWIMs a bit of an old git these days, and SWIMs days of all-weekend binging are long gone. 10 years ago, when SWIM had a completely different attitude and was surrounded by a bunch of similarly minded people, things may well have been different.

RE appetite: this is quite interesting. Appetite most definitely WAS suppressed. SWIM had little desire to eat for all of the following day. However, SWIM did attempt to eat a few things throughout the day and it was quite doable. Compared to previous experiences of trying to eat after a heavy night out, where putting anything in your mouth felt like filling it with sawdust, this was nowhere near as bad.
 
Frogster said:
WOOT! 1g 6-apb powder arrived.

Weight: 1106 mg
Smell: Chloride smell like in hospitals and swimming-pools (might be the typical TCP smell?)
Apeearence: Tan fluffy powder.

Marquis: Violet
Mecke: Dark army Green
Mendelin: Black

Would like to upload a pic quickly, can someone tell me how to do it? Remember, im still greenlighter...
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Hi frogster. I posted that i received my powder yesterday. Just finished testing it via the 3 reagent tests. Not sure on the result of the mecke though.

Weight : 1111mg
Smell: Chloride smell
And its a fluffy powder again sticks a little to surfaces.

Marquis: purple
Mecke: Very dark brown ?
Mendelin: Black dark blue

All samples fizzed instantly and changed colour rapidly.
After browsing your report I have gone and stocked up on arginine, theanine, energy drinks and a diuretic as I too have issues with serotone syndrome and BP. Before my research on friday I intend to proceed with caution.
I tried the pellets a couple of weeks back but found them to be overwhelming and after the 3 hour mark, well, its not something I would like to experience again.
 
Anton32 said:
Hi frogster. I posted that i received my powder yesterday. Just finished testing it via the 3 reagent tests. Not sure on the result of the mecke though.

Weight : 1111mg
Smell: Chloride smell
And its a fluffy powder again sticks a little to surfaces.

Marquis: purple
Mecke: Very dark brown ?
Mendelin: Black dark blue

All samples fizzed instantly and changed colour rapidly.
After browsing your report I have gone and stocked up on arginine, theanine, energy drinks and a diuretic as I too have issues with serotone syndrome and BP. Before my research on friday I intend to proceed with caution.
I tried the pellets a couple of weeks back but found them to be overwhelming and after the 3 hour mark, well, its not something I would like to experience again.
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Compare here:
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showpost.php?p=8685235&postcount=432


Cheers Mate, looks really good. Have you also BENZODIAZEPINES nearby? They are quite a MUST when you have problems with the comeup.

I dont know your weight, but 50mg on empty stomach should do fine as a first go (after an allergy test of course). When you have overcome the comeup and you feel in the GROOVE, feel free to add 20-30mg. And most importantly have your best tunes ready ;)

And get us a TR ASAP!

Hugs, Froggie
 
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Anton32 said:
Hi frogster. I posted that i received my powder yesterday. Just finished testing it via the 3 reagent tests. Not sure on the result of the mecke though.

Weight : 1111mg
Smell: Chloride smell
And its a fluffy powder again sticks a little to surfaces.

Marquis: purple
Mecke: Very dark brown ?
Mendelin: Black dark blue

All samples fizzed instantly and changed colour rapidly.
After browsing your report I have gone and stocked up on arginine, theanine, energy drinks and a diuretic as I too have issues with serotone syndrome and BP. Before my research on friday I intend to proceed with caution.
I tried the pellets a couple of weeks back but found them to be overwhelming and after the 3 hour mark, well, its not something I would like to experience again.
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What is it with these dodgy chemical analysis? Chloride smell? There are thousands of chloride salts (chloride means it is a salt). They could all smell completely different or be completely odourless (most cases). This is a useless analogy.
Chlorine on the other hand is a gas at room temp and the smell of swimming pools is indeed small quantities of chlorine produced from the chemical reagents used to clean and maintain pH in pools.
TCP is 'TriChloroPhenol' which has a very distinctive 'antisceptic' smell (as it is used in many antisceptic products).
My experience is that the pellets have a distinct 'phenolic' smell. If you haven't smelt pure phenol, it smells similar to TCP, but maybe closer to 'hospital wards' if we are to put it into generic terms.

Carry on.
 
tragiclemming said:
What is it with these dodgy chemical analysis? Chloride smell? There are thousands of chloride salts (chloride means it is a salt). They could all smell completely different or be completely odourless (most cases). This is a useless analogy.
Chlorine on the other hand is a gas at room temp and the smell of swimming pools is indeed small quantities of chlorine produced from the chemical reagents used to clean and maintain pH in pools.
TCP is 'TriChloroPhenol' which has a very distinctive 'antisceptic' smell (as it is used in many antisceptic products).
My experience is that the pellets have a distinct 'phenolic' smell. If you haven't smelt pure phenol, it smells similar to TCP, but maybe closer to 'hospital wards' if we are to put it into generic terms.

Carry on.
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but why does it have a phenolic smell??
 
Scoobysnacks said:
hazzard a guess then mate, that would be better than hearing vendors lies
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It could be left over from the manufacturing process. However, as I don't know the reagents or reaction pathway used to produce the products it really is a wild guess. Also, smelling like phenol doesn't mean it is phenol. Someone needs to do NMR on the pellets. I've thought about it. Now I have some time I may well satisfy my curiosity. However, at £400 a pop I'm not sure I want to pay for it!
 
^ if every BLer is interrested in finding out what they're really ingesting, I reckon 200 people would pay 2 pounds each. And I think this really is a realistic scenario, given the fact that they're willing to pay 100 pounds [theoretically] for a gram of the substance that they enjoy so much...
But I think that by the time another round of pellets will reach the market, [relatively] pure dust will be available at OK prices.
 
Cheers frogster, glad it looks genuine. My bodyweight is 163lbs 5ft 8, age 32. Lots of experience with the usuals over the last 12 years. Lots of bad reactions aswell with mainly the recent RC's. Havent got any access to benzo's unfortunately. I can handle the overwhelming comeup as with the pellets, its just past the 3 hour mark when things get messy hence your referral to serotone syndrome and lack of dopamine release maybe.
Maybe my last bad reaction was due to the fact that I had been supplementing with l-dopa to release growth hormone as I lift weights quite often. This could account for exhausted dopamine levels.
Can you suggest anything else once the comeup has levelled out??
Yup got my decks nearby and lazers, fog machine and lightsready for fridays party!
 
To Frogster & others, I would agree on getting in contact with someone who has access to a NMR or GC/MS machine and would be glad to help. Maybe people over from ADD know more and will help. [Sorry mate can't reply to PM, still greenlighter... PM me an id or mail address to get in touch]
 
I dont want to get anyones hopes up, But I have been following this travesty (the release of 6-APB) and am so fucking sick of the unknown aspect.

I have a friend from another forum who has access to gc/ms and other analytical lab equipment. I have sent him a private message to ask if he would be willing to analyze a sample pellet and a sample of the powder. I have not yet heard back from him, and he is quite a busy person, so I doubt he will have time to do this.

But if he responds and is willing to do it, I will reply to this thread and setup an anonymous email to use to exchange mailing addresses to get some of this stuff analyzed.

AGAIN, my friend is very busy, SO I DONT WANT ANYONE TO THINK ITS FOR SURE GOING TO HAPPEN. I WILL LET YOU KNOW IF HE WILL TAKE A LOOK FOR ME/US.
 
YaniCZka said:
well the most interesting thing is that it seems that those who caused all the hype magically lost all the interest in it as soon as it became available. one would think that they will be the first ones to report how the pellets feel in compare with their legendary first samples...
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My first sample report wasnt exactly glowing but it was honest. I havnt tried the pellets yet, infact Im not sure I will as the marquis reults are different to the results I got with my samples and everyone is talking about residual stimulation and feeling rough the next day, didnt get this with any of my samples
 
Mullered said:
My first sample report wasnt hardly glowing but it was honest. I havnt tried the pellets yet, infact Im not sure I will as the marquis reults are different to the results I got with my samples and everyone is talking about residual stimulation and feeling rough the next day, didnt get this with any of my samples
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I had a fantastic time on the pellets, but I was in a right old state the next two days...
 
JedTheHumanoid said:
I had a fantastic time on the pellets, but I was in a right old state the next two days...
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This is what I dont get. Almost all the original samplers including myself reported little or no comedown. The general consensus with the pellets is that the comedown is rough. Im wondering if some kind of stimulant has been added to the pellet mixture as stimulation was one thing many felt the samples lacked
 
Mullered said:
My first sample report wasnt exactly glowing but it was honest. I havnt tried the pellets yet, infact Im not sure I will as the marquis reults are different to the results I got with my samples and everyone is talking about residual stimulation and feeling rough the next day, didnt get this with any of my samples
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yeh where did all the testers go??? think they wd want to bask in the benzo glory and all the cyber back slapping wat wd go with it ..fooking shills..not aimed at ya mullered but anyone else noticed a leeds connection, cpl of vendors work out of leeds as well, we all been dry bummed and made to say thanks and there wipe down there bits, bullshit
 
Mullered said:
This is what I dont get. Almost all the original samplers including myself reported little or no comedown. The general consensus with the pellets is that the comedown is rough. Im wondering if some kind of stimulant has been added to the pellet mixture as stimulation was one thing many felt the samples lacked
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I'm certain there had to be. It was like I was on a differet drug at the end. One that didn't stop...
 
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