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The 6-APB thread

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Cheers mate, i think i'm gonna have to call in sick. Still sweating and biting jaw 16 hours after taking last half. I'd do anything for a couple of benzos right now. Not managed to eat anything all day either!

Well, i must also confirm that the pure, non-pelleted 6-APB does not present any annoying residual stimulation after comedown. I even found the after-effects rather gentle. Dunno about the pellets...
 

at least that cunt knows how bad the stuff in the pellets is, if he used same stuff as in the samples he would of been tip top.lmfao....hope he never feels right

Had two o5 pellets last night. Was suprised by how long they last. Feeling really really bad today and had no sleep at all. How long does this stim buzz last for. Got work tomorrow :( Anything I can do to make myself feel a bit better?


ride it out, i felt like shit for 6 days off one, i smoked quality weed and it did shit
 
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Anyone seen the report in todays news of the world? The cunts used my photograph:
Complain. You own the copyright to the image.

http://www.bitterwallet.com/bbc-uses-copyright-image-from-flickr-for-news-24/7498

http://www.bitterwallet.com/bbc-apologises-to-bw-reader-for-using-copyright-photos/28533

People have been paid because of unauthorised use of their IP.


Topped up twice with an extra half a pill and both times it gave me and extra hour or two of full on MDMA like high. Had come in after a nights drinking. Had the tablets sitting there for weeks waiting for the right time. But stupidly in my drunken state decided to try them at 2 in the morning.
Double dosed along with mixing with alcohol?

Classic recipe for disaster! Hope you feel better soon.
 
Finally got to sleep about 1 in the morning. After waking up still feeling like total shit. Body temp is fluctuating badly, feeling really sick. Feeling quite worried bout my health at the moment!! :S I've been taking 5htp, could this be making me feel worse?
 
Hi guys, I have been following the 6-apb hype for a few months now and have decided to register. I received my 1gram of 6-apb this morning. My question is that it is labelled as 1-(1-benzofuran-6-yl)-2-methyl-ethyl-2-amine. Now having checked this is slightly different to the chemical name of the common 6-apb, the ending formula has an methyl-ethyl-2-amine. I'm no chemist, but does this look right to you? I am going to perform the marquis, mecke and mandalin test on it later this week.
Your help and insight will be appreciated as with all the good/bad reports going about I am procedding with extreme caution with this.
 
Finally got to sleep about 1 in the morning. After waking up still feeling like total shit. Body temp is fluctuating badly, feeling really sick. Feeling quite worried bout my health at the moment!! :S I've been taking 5htp, could this be making me feel worse?


hmm, I'M NOT A MEDIC! If it is what i guess, this is a case of serotonine toxity, (lookup serotonine syndrome on the net) then i wouldn't take 5-HTP!

From amateur experience it would be better to have
1st line some Benzodiazepine (Valium ect.),
2nd line otherwise some GHB/GBL could help. Baclofen/Phenibut do the same too.
3rd line alternatives are Gabapentin/Pregabalin and finally Tianeptine.

If you have nothing of that readily available or not sure about interacions with the drug, drink energy-drinks and isotonic sports drinks. Some boose can help too (i like having wodka-energy, others have some vodka mixed with multivitamine-juice, others have blonde-beer like Hoegaarden). Even caffeine can be useful (yes, even if it is considered as a stimulant, it is also a fine diluretic).

Watch out for your temperature. if you sweat profousely, get some air on your chest rather then a cold shower. Your body can regulate the temp best over sweat evapouration. Look out for symptoms of hypertension if you can't measure bp: Caughing from a pressure feeling in the lungs, purple knees and a pale face (cold sweat) are typical symptoms of hypertension from vascoconstriction. in that case, you should get L-arginine (included in milk and amino-acid supplemens sometimes labelled as brainfood or wellness cereal bar ect.) or sniff a bit of poppers (available in headshops). Then get some easy physical effort., have a walk around the block or so. But slowly as you need to evapourate your sweat for temp regulation. Drink a lot, and visit the pissoir anytime you feel you need to.

Keep it cool, everything will be fine soon if you do some of the above.

But, should the condition badly worsen, (that would be the worst case, so don't panic its surely not your case) symptoms include ice cold sweat, nausea, crazy vomiting, diharrea, confusion, hallucinations, slipping in and out consiousness, severe muscle twiches and myoclonic spasms or seizure, call the medical emergency at once an tell them that you suspect serotonine syndrome. Even if it is not, they will avoid meds that worsen the condition.
 
Thanks for the advise, much appreciated. Its slowly starting to subside. I havnt taken any more 5-htp had taken 400mg last night and another 100mg when I woke up was the only thing I had to try knock myself out. Drank a lot of milk, fruit juice and coffee. Unfortunately dont have anything else to hand. Feel like my body temp is beginning to return to normal. Gave myself quite a scare, maybe I'm getting to old for this!
 
at least that cunt knows how bad the stuff in the pellets is, if he used same stuff as in the samples he would of been tip top.lmfao....hope he never feels right

Actually his description doesnt sound like the pellets at all.
What he's describing doesnt exist because hes full of shit and never actually tried anything.

And those "four more legal highs - 5-IAI, MDAT, MDAI and Dimethocaine - are poised to flood in" have been available far longer than 6-apb (except 5-iai which i do not believe is avaliable).

For a guy that was making money selling the stuff it doesnt seem like he knows all that much.
 
Actually his description doesnt sound like the pellets at all.
What he's describing doesnt exist because hes full of shit and never actually tried anything.

And those "four more legal highs - 5-IAI, MDAT, MDAI and Dimethocaine - are poised to flood in" have been available far longer than 6-apb (except 5-iai which i do not believe is avaliable).

For a guy that was making money selling the stuff it doesnt seem like he knows all that much.

maybe ya right Delsyd though i think a few vendors know jack shit concerning there chems, most are too teccy minded and money orinienated to be drug savvy, still made exiting reading..though hate to think what the straight brigade are gonna think of it..lol
 
According to New Scientist magazine, recent research has shown that the usual belief that high levels serotonin make you happy is not correct. In certain brain areas, serotonin increases cause depression. This to me seems to explain why SSRIs (fucking evil things) tend to make a person more depressed for the first two weeks, even suicidal according to the published side effects. My guess is that after a couple of weeks your body will have developed a tolerance and will be acting to counter the effects of the SSRI. The one time was on SSRIs (before I was educated enough to realise that 99% of "depression" is simply a natural response to the avoidance of dealing with your problems), I felt numb with no emotional responses. I used to love watching movies but the fluoxetine made everything boring as I couldn't connect with the characters or care about them. My previous love of film has never fully returned. It angers me greatly that the general public think that something from a doctor is a "medicine" and perfectly good for you, but "drugs" are the sole preserve of evil (i use the term to take the piss, evil is a nonsense term that excuses people from thinking) degenerates who want nothing more than to destroy your children and ruin your imaginary view of the world. Critical thinking is a wonderful thing, and i'm very lucky to be in the minority who value and care about truth and realities. One particular idiot on that Daily Record story rhetorically asks why people would take a drug that could kill them. Presumably he's never drunk alcohol? I shall end with a brilliant counter argument to people who say they don't need drugs to have fun. I can light a fire by rubbing wood together, but why would I when I have a lighter? Sorry about no paragraphs, typing on my phone.
 
Well, i must also confirm that the pure, non-pelleted 6-APB does not present any annoying residual stimulation after comedown. I even found the after-effects rather gentle. Dunno about the pellets...

ya the only person i know who has took 6-apb powder and not slated it, im not saying ya lying or the peeps who reported it as bad are lying( like the guy who necked 700 mgs and everyone said stay away from that shit as it highley toxic)..lmao@ 700 mgs. a think there was a concerted effort by vendors/shills to discredit the powder and i cant believe that a quality 6-apb powder has NOT been synthed...Did ya feel the same feelings as the original testers..i.e empathy, euphoria, visuals and the like??
 
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6-APB you say?

Well at first I was very eager to try it, but after reading this thread, it actually seems that the cons may outweigh the pros. Sounds good up to about the 9-12 hour mark.

Long trips must be really thought about before taking. A lot of people can"t handle that kiond of intensity or duration of anything.A 12 hour trip on a car/plane is hard, so imagine your mind (control of it at least) completely gone for 12 hours.

can you handle that? and if so, is the wired feeling after your 4 hour peak worth it?

Maybe taking some melatonin or something to be able to sleep after your peak might save this
 
I apologise in advance for the upcoming multiple posts, but I have a few separate points to make and as i'm on my phone so can't do paragraphs I figure it'll be easier to read. Gabapentin is an incredible thing, based on what i've read and my subjective effects, it courses through the nervous system, patching holes as it goes and sends amplified urgent repair messages to the relevant places. This is an entirely unscientific description, but given that this drug is actually synthesised GABA, a major and essential component of the nervous system, it works for me.
 
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If more serotonine would mean "better mood", then serotonine syndrome had to be blisss... ;). It just ain't like that. The only antidepressive that provides a mood-lift is Tianeptine (a serotonine reuptake ENHACER). Things are much more complex. It is the concerto of monoamines that makes up our mood-set. Drugs like 6-APB just provide us the score. We have to play it the right way
 
If more serotonine would mean "better mood", then serotonine syndrome had to be blisss... ;). It just ain't like that. The only antidepressive that provides a mood-lift is Tianeptine (a serotonine reuptake ENHACER). Things are much more complex. It is the concerto of monoamines that makes up our mood-set. Drugs like 6-APB just provide us the score. We have to play it the right way

LOL.. so what ya saying is ya have to work with this drug and be in the right mindset? ...wtf..so after a hard day with work and four kids plus a wife who can be murder it might not work if my head is done in?

thats me fucked then

Well, i must also confirm that the pure, non-pelleted 6-APB does not present any annoying residual stimulation after comedown. I even found the after-effects rather gentle. Dunno about the pellets...

Did ya feel the same feelings as the original testers..i.e empathy, euphoria, visuals and the like??
 
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ya the only person i know who has took 6-apb powder and not slated it, im not saying ya lying or the peeps who reported it as bad are lying( like the guy who necked 700 mgs and everyone said stay away from that shit as it highley toxic)..lmao@ 700 mgs. a think there was a concerted effort by vendors/shills to discredit the powder and i cant believe that a quality 6-apb powder has NOT been synthed...Did ya feel the same feelings as the original testers..i.e empathy, euphoria, visuals and the like??

Absolutely, my experience perfectly matches the early sample-testers. I gave a full report before, and i think that it is consistent don't you think? Not that i had an easy candy ride, i fully described the more difficult side of the high and so. I even tried to explain how they possibly can be overcome.

So what can i say? This is just my opinion/speculation summing up like 10k posts + my own experience. Read it and/or ignore it, as it is a step toward threadwreckage again :X

Chapter I: The Pellets
The pellets seem to contain in parts the same substance that was present in the original samples. Supposely 1st synth 6-APB.
Reason: some posters have had both and most of them think of it having the same effects. Other poster have also provides a good charakterisation of effects. Then you have the controverse peeps that didn't like the pellets. Of course its especially those peeps who complain here on the board. The others have an awesome time out...
Main "SPECULATIVE" reasons for the controversy:
a: YMMV,
b: Set/Setting,
c: unknown dosage in the pellets,
d: difficult dosing if 6-APB turns out to have a narrow therapeutic range (especially with the pellets),
e: noob/dumb subject hasn't done his research right,
f: product contains random amount of potentially toxic impurities,
g: bulking/mixing process is flawed,
h: some pellets have been cut with an unknown active ingredient,

Chapter II: The Powders
Lots of different powders have been labeled as 6-APB in the past. Without a question, some have badly varied by:
1: Vendor
2: Packaging
3: Appearance
4: Reagent testing
5: subjective effects
interestingly, some of the powder was initially given out for free. They came in two variations: 1st synth and 2nd synth. Remarkably there was an excellet consistency in 1-5. There is a pattern here yes? Maybe the pre-pelleted samples were originating from the one and the same Lab and were given away for free to the distributors next in chain. So, what about the other variety of powders, what are they about? :?8(:!:p:X:| !!!

Chapter III: The Mystery Reveald:

Remember, that there maybe is "THE ONE" Lab.... It has quite some HumpaLumpas working and the production manager is a sparkly fairy. But the fairy is quite a 21st century girl. She even runs an online-store on her i-wand. ;)

This message will self-destroy in 59min, 59, 58, 57...s

@scoob: hope you enjoy the irony m8...
BTW: Ding! Im a Bluelighter :D
 
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