I'm sorry fo quoting myself but I would love to have this answered..
IV Users.... Do you regret "picking up" the needle?
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I'm sorry fo quoting myself but I would love to have this answered..
Dankycodone
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IME most people say that. I never did but about 50% of the people i know who ended up shootin swore they never would.
And now i got one other thing to say but first i wanna say yo, i hope u dont think im pickin on u since i made a comment about your post once already today in your other thread, but its just a coincidence....But i just wanted to say--give people some time yo--people dont always reply right away. Give it a few days, and a good number of replies, before you quote yourself again and repeat the question. there was only a post or 2 between the first time u asked it and the second time when u quoted it, you gotta give ppl a minute to catch up and answer. I know you just wanted to hear the answer and prolly just got anxious like , damn answer me already! So it aint no big deal, it aint like its some kind of rule you broke. Its just kinda considered to be like....I guess "Etiquette" here in DC/on BL in general.
I know you pretty much got the idea since you did apologized for self quotin. I just wanted to tell you that you CAN quote your self sometimes, but just dont be gettin so impatient, give it some time and wait to do it til a good enough amount of time has went by that you are sure people skipped over you, and then its OK to say "hey yall....I really wanted to see the answer to this, did yall miss my question? Ima quote it again in case people didnt see it"
An that is the end of lacey K's Drug Culture Forum Posting Etiquette Lesson for today :D
IME most people say that. I never did but about 50% of the people i know who ended up shootin swore they never would.
And now i got one other thing to say but first i wanna say yo, i hope u dont think im pickin on u since i made a comment about your post once already today in your other thread, but its just a coincidence....But i just wanted to say--give people some time yo--people dont always reply right away. Give it a few days, and a good number of replies, before you quote yourself again and repeat the question. there was only a post or 2 between the first time u asked it and the second time when u quoted it, you gotta give ppl a minute to catch up and answer. I know you just wanted to hear the answer and prolly just got anxious like , damn answer me already! So it aint no big deal, it aint like its some kind of rule you broke. Its just kinda considered to be like....I guess "Etiquette" here in DC/on BL in general.
I know you pretty much got the idea since you did apologized for self quotin. I just wanted to tell you that you CAN quote your self sometimes, but just dont be gettin so impatient, give it some time and wait to do it til a good enough amount of time has went by that you are sure people skipped over you, and then its OK to say "hey yall....I really wanted to see the answer to this, did yall miss my question? Ima quote it again in case people didnt see it"
An that is the end of lacey K's Drug Culture Forum Posting Etiquette Lesson for today :D
Haha just having one of those days man, get a little impatient every now and then.
Sorry the bl community has to deal with that.
That's disappointing... I was really hoping you were bl stalking me... :/ oh well
Haha just messing.
The reason I wanted an answer so quickly is because I've always said that no matter what kinda drugs I get into, I will never shoot. It scares the crap outta me. I think its just the negative stigma attached to it? Idk but lately the idea hasn't seemed so farfetched.. I'm not planning to do it, but I think that if sometime in the future the opportunity presented itself, id be very unsure about refusing it.. Make sense?
Bee-tee-dubs, advice noted. I'll make an effort to be less...demanding. Haha.
Been haven posts ignored all day. Gets to ya a bit then you start postun stuff that makes ya look like a real jackass... Haha I know you know which one I'm talk in about...lols
Captain.Heroin
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I think the distinction needs to be made between IV drug use and a habit, the foremost being a narcotic habit. I got over the latter a long time ago, but still find IV a viable route for all kinds of substances. Using a needle and habitual use are two distinct things - one facilitates the other but they are not necessarily the same.
I IV substances to use less, get a faster rush and bypass first pass metabolism by the liver. I as a rule no longer use meth, heroin or cocaine and have never IVed regularly. With that in mind, I have had many intense experiences via this route which I would not have enjoyed otherwise. I think if I was shooting dope I would feel otherwise and be in the regretful camp.
I IV substances to use less, get a faster rush and bypass first pass metabolism by the liver. I as a rule no longer use meth, heroin or cocaine and have never IVed regularly. With that in mind, I have had many intense experiences via this route which I would not have enjoyed otherwise. I think if I was shooting dope I would feel otherwise and be in the regretful camp.
Captain.Heroin
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I would still use meth (definitely IV) but am not too huge on using stimulants regularly. I also don't use heroin or cocaine anymore either.
amnesiaseizure
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Yeah for sure.
When I look back at the time I was using I most fondly remember the times I used to smoke it and have far more memories of this period than when I started shooting. I'm guessing this is due to the stronger hit giving way to amnesia more readily(?), that or by the time I was shooting I was basically off it 24/7. I also got myself into more serious health problems and although it hardly bears saying, I spent a WHOLE lot more money!
Using a needle just seems to add a big slice of desperation and greed with more acute withdrawals to boot. There's something more measured and social about smoking it. On balance I'd say that experience has given a good case for chasing that dragon over the pin - you might not get that full on first rush but you do get to enjoy it for longer both in duration and IME in memory.
Just a note for anyone using the reason of getting more bang for your buck when switching to a syringe....it's a completely bollocks one; it takes no time at all to be up to your usual amount in every shot and you can guarantee it won't be much longer till you're doubling it.
If AT ALL possible, stick to smoking it!!
When I look back at the time I was using I most fondly remember the times I used to smoke it and have far more memories of this period than when I started shooting. I'm guessing this is due to the stronger hit giving way to amnesia more readily(?), that or by the time I was shooting I was basically off it 24/7. I also got myself into more serious health problems and although it hardly bears saying, I spent a WHOLE lot more money!
Using a needle just seems to add a big slice of desperation and greed with more acute withdrawals to boot. There's something more measured and social about smoking it. On balance I'd say that experience has given a good case for chasing that dragon over the pin - you might not get that full on first rush but you do get to enjoy it for longer both in duration and IME in memory.
Just a note for anyone using the reason of getting more bang for your buck when switching to a syringe....it's a completely bollocks one; it takes no time at all to be up to your usual amount in every shot and you can guarantee it won't be much longer till you're doubling it.
If AT ALL possible, stick to smoking it!!
DavisK4high247
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I agree i been there man..
I agree with you man because I have been down that road you are talking about and I'm lucky to be living and not in jail also right now,because I been there done that shit you are talking about,nothing to brag about and I know you are not,and I am not either..Not a college kid and never was and never had the upper middle class shit either...I sold,stole,lied,and whatver to get by but I am all good now I done been off heroin and shooting anything since 2006..but I still smoke some weed and trip some of this and that,but no heroin and no shooting coke or meth,or anything anymore...I regret nothing that I remmeber,It was a hard ass life i lived for a number of years but it made me who I am today and I am lucky and I am stronger because of what i lived through,and died from and brought back in ER's with Narcan and adrenaline or whatever too many times to count...so the needle and the damge done like the song says ...I am glad I am off the needle though but i don't regret it,not really ,not now I don't ...i used to and i hope i wont slip up and fall into it again but going on about 5 years off heroin and the needle and still using other stuff but not slamming it is pretty good I think,but I am a lucky few who made it out alive so far!!
I agree with you man because I have been down that road you are talking about and I'm lucky to be living and not in jail also right now,because I been there done that shit you are talking about,nothing to brag about and I know you are not,and I am not either..Not a college kid and never was and never had the upper middle class shit either...I sold,stole,lied,and whatver to get by but I am all good now I done been off heroin and shooting anything since 2006..but I still smoke some weed and trip some of this and that,but no heroin and no shooting coke or meth,or anything anymore...I regret nothing that I remmeber,It was a hard ass life i lived for a number of years but it made me who I am today and I am lucky and I am stronger because of what i lived through,and died from and brought back in ER's with Narcan and adrenaline or whatever too many times to count...so the needle and the damge done like the song says ...I am glad I am off the needle though but i don't regret it,not really ,not now I don't ...i used to and i hope i wont slip up and fall into it again but going on about 5 years off heroin and the needle and still using other stuff but not slamming it is pretty good I think,but I am a lucky few who made it out alive so far!!
rxpirate
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I agree man. I have always had to pay for my habit no one funded anything I did unless I conned it out of them or stole. I did go to college but I paid for that myself and it ended after 2 semesters when I went to jail for 6 months and got my 2nd felony when my house got raided for being a dope house and I had 7 80's in my pocket. And being so sick and with three people and one needle. I am lucky I am still clean with how many people I have shared with. And using needles that are bent and so dull you have to force it in and all it does is push you vein aside cuz its to dull to go in. Hell I have even used toilet water before because I was in a stall in a bar and there were too many people to get water from the sink. I have seen people take ditch water and boil it to shoot it. Its not a glamorous life but even though I know how sick of life it is, every time I stop I always end up back. I get clean at least once every year for either jail or rehab and get right back on when I get home. I went to rehab in Jan. and 56 days sober I got kicked out for shooting up during and N.A. meeting pass, I didn't go to the meeting but thats the only way to get out during the week. I am almost clean now cuz I'm out of state and in the country and can't find anything but I have pretty much tapered down using fent patches and percs but I can't wait to get back to florida and get some pills. Its a sick sick life. But I don't know if might never change.
mav3rick
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Yepppp.. I was petrified of needles! I used to pass out at the doctors when getting a blood test I hated needles that much! I'm still trying to think how and when that all changed for me and now, I don't even give shooting up a second thought, it's just the way I do things now.. I can't get high any other way, quite depressing really..
^ To respond to Microtel's post..
I used to be that ideallic IV user you described, then it all turned to dust!
I had an insanely successful, high paying job. I've got two degrees and working on my third, had an amazing house, heaps of money, no criminal record and life was fucking awesome!
Now, yep I still have the degrees and no criminal record, however everything else has changed. I have no money, lost my house, in debt, lost my job and now earn a tenth of what I used to. It sucks but it was my choice to go down this path, now I'm living with the consequences!
Mav
tlks2Angels
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it was fun til i needed it...now i regret it ...but dont want to lose it either... need to get to that point i guess
hahahahaha. Maybe they started off with that ..... but it will all be gone within the year. I went to a private catholic school played sports all around good kid. 2 years im shootin speedballs of crack and heroin in the hood with a dirty rig homeless. There are no good stories with IV drug use whether you have 1 penny or a billion dollars. Look at fucking famous ppl who shoot dope... THEY DIE. That was the most retarded post i ever read.
rxpirate
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IV drug use is not good. It may sound like stereotypes but when you start its fun till the day you wake up sick and you NEED it from there on out. And for the people that do have the money and resources all that will go as the addiction furthers. Your family will give up on you, the longer your on the needle the more drugs you need so the more money you spend and it will run out sooner or later. And when you can't score you start calling into work sick cuz you only get out of bed to vomit or when someone calls you with a hookup. There is nothing good about the lifestyle. That being said though even with all the BS shooting opiates is a love like no other. Its my one true love, everything is great when I got em. No one knows pleasure like a junkie whose junk hunger cells drink from the needle, perhaps relief is the only real pleasure.
Kurrupt
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Simply, yes I do, for many reasons.
hyroller
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I don't...but then it's not the only way I'll ingest my DOC...
crystal I smoke; lower grade speed/meth I prefer to shoot. Don't do opiates, and everything else I ingest orally. I've shot crystal a fair few times, and it's great for a buzz, but not as a way of life.
It's just another recreational mode of ingestion, for me.
crystal I smoke; lower grade speed/meth I prefer to shoot. Don't do opiates, and everything else I ingest orally. I've shot crystal a fair few times, and it's great for a buzz, but not as a way of life.
It's just another recreational mode of ingestion, for me.
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"Also, the needle took me down the spiral much quicker than sniffing did. Before I started shooting everything in my life was somewhat OK. After 3 months of shooting dope I was completely strung out.
It's definitely a love/hate relationship, but if I could go back in time and tell my old self one thing it would be not to pick up the needle."
quoted for truth, word for word, same time line, 3 months of shooting up and i started getting sick and having w/d's
It's definitely a love/hate relationship, but if I could go back in time and tell my old self one thing it would be not to pick up the needle."
quoted for truth, word for word, same time line, 3 months of shooting up and i started getting sick and having w/d's
Listen yo.
You apparently got clean not too long ago and started goin to NA.
That is great for you and its good that you can see your life was out of control and did somethin about it.
It dont give you the right to talk down to other people and get up in people face with this fuckin attitude I been seein you have lately. I seen it a million times. Addict gets clean and then all a sudden , they get the know it all attitude and they know better than everyone and everyone who disagrees is a moron.
Its mad disrespectful to people to act that way. you can have a different opinion without straight up dismissin any and everybody who is different than you and didnt have the same experience.
Im one of the people who is more leaning towards "hey, you say you good now, but it fucks everybody up eventually the majority of people who do it." So i agree MORE with you in theory than with Microtel.
but your attitude and way of sayin it is so rude and disrespectful and so know-it-all smug that i cant even quote you and co sign it becuz that way of acting is just as bad as the anti drug people who think they know everything about drugs.
You had a dope addiction and went thru all these things. not everybody will. And as much as i know that in the end just about everybody who goes far enough to start bootin on the regular is gonna end up strung the fuck out, i also know that there is people out there who can and do use recreationally without much problems. I use to think you were a OK poster but this attitude change since you got clean is really puttin me off and makin me think way less of you. For real, the smug shit got to go. you dont know everybody, you dont know their life, and you dont know the shit they will or wont do. Your experience is your experience, stop tryin to judge others and tell them they are stupid just becuz they aint the same as you are and aint got the same beliefs. It aint a good look for anybody....Much less somebody who was so lowdown and dirty one day and the next day is Mr High and Fuckin Mighty preaching to the people he use to get high with about how bad drugs are.