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fieryslash

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If you could have one wish, what would you wish for? Don't be shy. I would wish for the elimination of money. We would have to exchange goods and services by bartering vegetables and bread. We would have to revert back to our old ways where technology isn't neccessary for our survival. Imagine what our world would be like if we didn't have currency. We would be living it back like it was during the stone ages where cavemen existed. Our lifestyle would be simple and humble. We would put all our manpower into space travel but we would still live in teepees and caves. The idea would be co-existing. A humble yet advanced lifestyle.

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If we spent all our time and devotion into one thing, my theory is that we would put it into spacetravel. Spacetravel would mean more businesses, more opportunity for growth, and a reason to live. To expand our creator's creations and flourish into something we haven't conceived yet. There may be something awaiting for us in the near future, something that we cannot comprehend. It might be aliens, it might be sentient life forms that are actually universes inside their living bodies. Either way you look at it, it is mind-blowing what we could achieve if we only put our space and time into it.
 
It seems to me, that through all the edits, additions, and deletions, that your threads are a sort of monologue that you feel like sharing with us. There actually is an outlet better suited for this cause. If you go to the top menu under "Bluelight", there is a button titled "quick links". Click it, and choose "blog".

There, you can start your own and post musings, and if people feel they can comment, they will. Because thus far you are not forming your threads in such a way as to stimulate discussion.
 
I'll grant you that you have an interesting idea. The teepee dwelling stone age space travelers thing.

If I had just one wish I would probably end up wishing for something entirely selfish like fortune or love.
 
I would wish to understand it all. Everything. Unbounded knowledge. Now, on the surface this might seem somewhat selfish, so allow me to explain:

I want to help people to live life. Happily, in the here-and-now, and all that. Right now, I try to help people, but having an incomplete understanding of reality makes this difficult. If I understood all of it, I could do a better job of it.

If not everything, I'd settle for understanding people. That would be a start.
 
Complete Balance.

'edited my earlier post to not derail the threads topic'.
 
i would wish to have as many wishes as i wanted...

there's a saying that money is the root of all evil but that kind of misses the point. human greed is the problem, not currency. money, like so many things is just a tool which can be used and abused. eliminating it isn't going to solve the world's problems.

i agree that space travel is important.

alasdair
 
I would wish every being to experience enlightenment. Everything else, that needs to follow for the better of us all, would follow naturally.
 
Why would you want to get rid of currency and go back to a barter economy OP? That sounds long. Real long. Inefficient too. Don't think you're going to get many spaceships built. How can you simultaneously be so pro-space travel and so anti-technology? Don't you like computers and high-grade cannabis (you certainly seem to)?

Even if you really do want a world where we "don't need technology", it can't happen. Technology is the accumulation of techniques, that is, ways of doing things that are not immediately obvious. Even prehistoric people had techniques for things like making fire, hunting, gathering etc. You do need technology to live, that's just a harsh fact of nature I'm afraid.
 
i would wish that evil, and all its' ambiguities and forms, were vanquished from the hearts of men



i would wish to have as many wishes as i wanted...

there's a saying that money is the root of all evil but that kind of misses the point. human greed is the problem, not currency. money, like so many things is just a tool which can be used and abused. eliminating it isn't going to solve the world's problems.

i agree that space travel is important.

alasdair

the actual saying is "the love of money is the root of all evil" thereby encapsulating the(yours as well)point perfectly
 
i would wish that evil, and all its' ambiguities and forms, were vanquished from the hearts of men
In essence there is no evil in the hearts of men. But there is a lot of ignorance, from which these seemingly evil actions arise from.

I'm very sure, that no-one wants to feel bad (even if sometimes it can seem the opposite). It's just our minds, which can become so deceived by our ignorance, that we start creating misery for ourselves and others.

To take an extreme example, let's take Hitler. Out of his ignorance he thought, he was fighting for a noble cause. But I'm pretty sure he never felt good or at peace. He had totally alienated himself, with his mind, from the people, whose lives he was destroying. If he hadn't done so - if he wasn't ignorant, he could never have done, what he did.

The more one becomes understanding of the nature of reality, the more wise, hence positive, ones actions become.
 
Wish to completely understand the relationship between philosopy and spirituality? :P

To be rid of my innate human desire for all things meaningless?

For everyone on bluelight to be rid of their menial jobs that require them to self medicate?

Honestly...a substantial amount of monetary wealth.

A serious question. Would a crap ton of cash solve All of your problems? It wouldn't for me.
 
In essence there is no evil in the hearts of men. But there is a lot of ignorance, from which these seemingly evil actions arise from.

I'm very sure, that no-one wants to feel bad (even if sometimes it can seem the opposite). It's just our minds, which can become so deceived by our ignorance, that we start creating misery for ourselves and others.

To take an extreme example, let's take Hitler. Out of his ignorance he thought, he was fighting for a noble cause. But I'm pretty sure he never felt good or at peace. He had totally alienated himself, with his mind, from the people, whose lives he was destroying. If he hadn't done so - if he wasn't ignorant, he could never have done, what he did.

The more one becomes understanding of the nature of reality, the more wise, hence positive, ones actions become.

All of this is just vague enough to almost make sense.

You're saying that there is no such thing as evil but ignorance produces actions that only appear evil. Which means that humans never consciously make an immoral or unethical decision. Now that is naivety bordering on ignorance.

Smart people are incapable of evil, is that what you're saying? That is an unequivocally uninformed opinon, my friend. I have learned that one must always consider the actions of intelligent people as intentional, no matter how accidental they may appear...just to be safe.


However, I must say that your final statement, albeit vague, is true. But the question is, do you TRULY understand the nature of reality?
 
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All of this is just vague enough to almost make sense.
I agree, I didn't put as much effort as I could have in that post. I didn't explain myself very well. But I'll try to do better now.

You're saying that there is no such thing as evil but ignorance produces actions that only appear evil. Which means that humans never consciously make an immoral or unethical decision. Now that is naivety bordering on ignorance.
People consciously come to an "immoral" or "unethical" decisions, because they don't have a deep enough understanding of their decisions. They just really don't understand, what they are doing. Even tho they might think they do. But those understandings are often very superficial.

Smart people are incapable of evil, is that what you're saying? That is an unequivocally uninformed opinon, my friend. I have learned that one must always consider the actions of intelligent people as intentional, no matter how accidental they may appear...just to be safe.
I'm not sure what your definition of a smart person is. A person who has a lot of knowledge or a person with a high IQ or both or something else?
Maybe we could take someone, who's good at making money. Some world top billionaire. Most people would probably agree, he has to be smart. But that was not, who I was talking about.
I do not consider someone, who's good at juggling the world for their own ego, to be understanding of the reality. I actually think most of them are quite ignorant to the true nature of reality also. If they weren't, they would be trying to help the world to become a better place, instead of accumulating the billions. This is not meant as a rant. I'm not saying they are somehow bad persons and I'm sure many of them will in their lifetime become more understanding.
Even a scientist, who's trying to discover the true nature of the reality by using different tools (technology, thinking) in the process, will never understand it, before he experiences it for himself.

But the question is, do you TRULY understand the nature of reality?
No. I'm pretty sure I don't. But I do believe I have gone closer to the understanding, than for example 10 years ago.
 
A serious question. Would a crap ton of cash solve All of your problems? It wouldn't for me.
To be honest, I think it might. Money can't buy you happiness; but it gives you the security and freedom to do whatever you want.

I do believe I have gone closer to the understanding, than for example 10 years ago
I feel as if I can be sure of less and less as I grow older. When I was 13 or 14 I thought I understood how it all worked; now I doubt everything. I guess that's a kind of wisdom, in a Socratic sense, but I don't feel close to understanding anything. I don't even know if understanding is possible.
 
Is it any surprise that I'm a hopeless romantic who mods SLR when I say "true love and a soul mate" is my wish. I just had dinner with a friend, and she has financial problems but one of the best marriages and love lives I've ever heard. She is really lucky in love, but not finances. I am very lucky financially, and I have a career that lots of people would love to have, but my love life sucks.

I wouldn't want to give up money or my career, but it has gotten in the way of my relationships and I really wish I could find someone who loved me more than anything but respected my desire to work hard.
 
People consciously come to an "immoral" or "unethical" decisions, because they don't have a deep enough understanding of their decisions. They just really don't understand, what they are doing. Even tho they might think they do. But those understandings are often very superficial.
When you put it like that you are essentially absolving everyone of any wrongdoing ever. Because on some level, there is no one that can possibly know the eternal ramifications of their every decision. And that is a fantasy. Staying in reality.. we as reasonable adults, KNOW if something is good or bad, and make decisions based on what we want.


I'm not sure what your definition of a smart person is. A person who has a lot of knowledge or a person with a high IQ or both or something else?
Any of those and/or any combination of those, including all reasonable, sane adults.

Maybe we could take someone, who's good at making money. Some world top billionaire. Most people would probably agree, he has to be smart. But that was not, who I was talking about.
I do not consider someone, who's good at juggling the world for their own ego, to be understanding of the reality.
I agree, I have this saying that goes....Just because one is selfish enough to manipulate their desires to fruition, does not automatically include one as intelligent.

I actually think most of them are quite ignorant to the true nature of reality also. If they weren't, they would be trying to help the world to become a better place, instead of accumulating the billions. This is not meant as a rant. I'm not saying they are somehow bad persons and I'm sure many of them will in their lifetime become more understanding.

Make no mistake: the billionares of this world are indeed intelligent, they know full well the evil they create and they want and like every second of it.



No. I'm pretty sure I don't. But I do believe I have gone closer to the understanding, than for example 10 years ago.

It's quite simple...for years I considered the actuality of unending possibilities, and I still believe that anything is possible if God is your guide, but I know now that there is good and there is evil. Pick one.
 
To be honest, I think it might.

And then you'd just have a new set of problems before long. I don't mean to bust your chops, but in my experience, getting rich, or getting lucky in most other ways, ultimately just changes the type of challenges one's life contains, not the quantity of them. I'll grant you that money does provide a buffer against certain guaranteed sources of unhappiness. I'll grant that inner peace is far up Maslow's hierarchy of needs from bodily needs, and it's nigh on impossible to achieve the latter without money nowadays. But most people who get rich thinking life will get easier, end up feeling kind of cheated, no pun intended.
 
Staying in reality.. we as reasonable adults, KNOW if something is good or bad, and make decisions based on what we want.
That's where the problem is hidden. Since most of the people are so ego identified, they think on a very superficial 'me' level - "I won't do this, because I will get punished for it" or "I'll do this, so others will think I'm a good person". You see the problem in it? There's no real sincere care about others and that causes problems. Making decisions based on what we, as separate beings, want.
Why is there no sincere care? Because if you see reality on such a superficial level, you only care for yourself, since you see no real relation to others. It has nothing to do with the person being evil, just blindfolded.
Real sincere kind and compassionate actions arise out of no thought. They come naturally out of the understanding.

Make no mistake: the billionares of this world are indeed intelligent, they know full well the evil they create and they want and like every second of it.
I'm not sure, if they really want to create evil. Most likely they are just so identified with the ego, which will never be satisfied with whatever amount of billions they accumulate. Greed arises out of ego. Since they don't understand what they are doing, on a deeper level, they can sacrifice other peoples misery for their own ego.

but I know now that there is good and there is evil. Pick one.
I do not agree. I still think there is no evil, just ignorance. Every being has only 'good' in their hearts, but a lot of us just get lost on our way.
 
i would wish to have as many wishes as i wanted...


alasdair

More-so than this I would wish that wishes were something that could actually come true.
What good would having unlimited wishes that never came true be?
 
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