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How to get Buprenorphine / Methadone ?

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Dr migi

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I'm a very curious drug user, and I was thinking to test Buprenorphine / Methadone, just to see what it is like.

I got a small opiate / benzo addiction. Could I go to my doctor and tell him about my addiction, so he could prescribe me some medicine ? Or will he just send me to a detox center... ?

And if I like them and they work good, why not staying away from morphine.. 8)

thanks.
 
If you go to a methadone/suboxone clinic all you need to do is test positive for opiates and they will put you on the program. I'm not sure about your doctor ( I have no experience with maintenance by doctors ) but he will most likely help you out our send you in the right direction.
 
Whenever I needed suboxone I just went to a psychiatrist that had a license to prescribe it and told them I had a heroin addiction, and they would give me a script. No drug test or anything, they just asked a few questions about how much I use and whatnot.
 
^its unlikely your psychiatrist was licensed to prescribe buprenorphine as most aren't. If you want bupe you need to see a doctor licensed to prescribe it... They are sparse in some areas and common in others. There are websites that can locate ones in your area.

Methadone generally requires daily clinic visits except in very rare circumstances so if you'd like to try that route locate one near you.

How big is your habit? Often people around here who have success with maintenance treatment strongly advocate it but it really isn't necessary for most users. Unless you have a very large habit for many years and have been unsuccessful trying other means to quit, I wouldn't recommend maintenance. If you do meet these criteria, I'd recommend first trying bupe and only methadone if the buprenorphine treatment is unsuccessful in keeping you away from full agonists,

I would strongly advise not pursuing either if you aren't ready to quit. If you just want to integrate these in with other use... As in still use on top of methadone, only use bupe when you run out of heroin, etc ...then these drugs will psychologically become intertwined with your abuse and it will make it more difficult (if not impossible) to be able to use these to actually quit in the future. I'm sure some people have abused these drugs or integrated them into abuse patterns and were able to successfully use them as quitting aids/maintenance, however I wouldn't risk taking effective treatment options off the table.

Lastly, if you are acquiring the benzos illicitly, its very possible any bupe or 'done doc would test you and refuse treatment unless you quit. Buprenorphine + benzos is more so a legal liability for the physician while 'done + benzo has put many a users in the ground and can be quite dangerous depending on the dose. If you have a legitimate prescription and take appropriate doses, some doctors will still treat you without issue.
 
first, thanks for your good explanation.

My habit each two days I use about 200-300mg oral morphine. ER,IR. I started 2 month ago, and I've got the feeling I'm developing an low addiction.

I haven't planned to go to a clinic to stop this addiction. It is mainly to try Buprenorphine / Methadone, (buprenorphine, first, as suggested) as a self-medication, and for recreational value.

This is not for a long use but for a short duration and not combined with anything.

About benzo, it's legitimate prescription for anxiety disorders. But I use them sometimes at higher dose when I'm running out of opiate.
 
first, thanks for your good explanation.

My habit each two days I use about 200-300mg oral morphine. ER,IR. I started 2 month ago, and I've got the feeling I'm developing an low addiction.

I haven't planned to go to a clinic to stop this addiction. It is mainly to try Buprenorphine / Methadone, (buprenorphine, first, as suggested) as a self-medication, and for recreational value.

This is not for a long use but for a short duration and not combined with anything.

About benzo, it's legitimate prescription for anxiety disorders. But I use them sometimes at higher dose when I'm running out of opiate.

Unfortunately buprenorphine has LITTLE recreational value. Only at doses lower than 3- 4 mg's/ day (yes lower, not higher) can you achieve any recreational effects at all. Usually the lower the dose, the more "euphoric" it will feel....allthough the euphoria should NEVER be compared to that of morphine, oxy, heroin, or any other full agonists. Its very mild and is often accompanied by a energizing buzz. Many people(including me) find these mild euphoric effects more than enough to keep us clean and off the streets trying to score every day.

Also, it should be noted that I inject my buprenorphine doses....but I do not recommend this to anyone unless they have the proper equipment to make it safe....i.e....micron-filters, anti-bacterial water, etc....
If you have all of the proper materials to safely inject buprenorphine, than I hope you give it a try, especially because the bioavailability is 100%...much better than other routes of administration.(sublingual ~35%, intranasal ~50%)
This can save you ALOT of money and pills....especially if your doc is still prescribing you a much higher does per day.....just save up the extra pills for a rainy day.

FYI.....when I first went to my suboxone(buprenorphine) doctor I was allready prescribed 2 different benzo's at low doses for insomnia and anxiety. They definitely took note of this, but didnt give too much of a hassle prescribing me suboxone because I wasnt taking very high doses....i.e..... .5 mg's klonopin, 30 mg's temazepam. You should be allright. Just dont take advantage of buprenorphine, you should only start taking it if you feel like you really have a opiate dependency problem and you are serious about possibly being on the medication for the long haul(in some cases several years). Dont waste the doctors time or your time by going in thinking you will just get some suboxone for a short, recreational use, period of time. Thats not what its meant for, and thats not what its good at doing. Its really only worthwhile if you take the medication daily for a long period of time so you can slowly adjust back to living a normal lifestyle and functioning as a sober human being that doesnt rely on heroin, oxy, or morphine to ge them through the day. Once you reach this point, its time to start thinking about slowly weaning yourself off the medication and in the end....live a long, healthy, happy, drug addiction-free life.

Please make the right choice for you and the loved ones around you.

Stay clean, be happy,

jamesbrown
 
Doesn't Switzerland have heroin clinics near Berne? Why don't you just go there and get the good shit?? If I lived in Switzerland I'd freaking live in that clinic.
 
^jesus. You think you can just walk into a clinic and say, "hello, I'd like some heroin please?"
 
No, I don't think that at all.
But if this person has this whole thought out plan to somehow get methadone/suboxone (which you can't just walk in and get that either,) then they might as well opt for the good shit, don't you think?
 
From my understanding of the system, patients considered for heroin maintenance are those that have repeatedly been unsuccessful with more common treatment modalities such as buprenorphine, methadone, counseling/rehab, etc.

You can't just walk into a heroin clinic with a short history of opiate use and no treatment attempts and they'll enroll you and start providing junk 2x a day.

EDIT: source

The nearly 1,300 selected addicts, who unsuccessfully tried other therapies, visit one of the centres twice a day to receive the measured dose of heroin produced by government-approved laboratory.

They keep their paraphernalia in cups labelled with their names and use the equipment and clean needles to inject themselves – four at a time – under the supervision of a nurse, and receive counselling from psychiatrists and social workers.
 
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luckily i found a good doc , recommended in a thread on bl

within 45 mins of walkin in n signin up , i was at the chemist havn my first 30mg dose
on 75 now n still nuthn , little wd symptoms , well im on 70 again , wen i went up to 75 i felt wierd sorta , ima go bak to the 75 tomorow
 
^its unlikely your psychiatrist was licensed to prescribe buprenorphine as most aren't. If you want bupe you need to see a doctor licensed to prescribe it... They are sparse in some areas and common in others. There are websites that can locate ones in your area.

Methadone generally requires daily clinic visits except in very rare circumstances so if you'd like to try that route locate one near you.

How big is your habit? Often people around here who have success with maintenance treatment strongly advocate it but it really isn't necessary for most users. Unless you have a very large habit for many years and have been unsuccessful trying other means to quit, I wouldn't recommend maintenance. If you do meet these criteria, I'd recommend first trying bupe and only methadone if the buprenorphine treatment is unsuccessful in keeping you away from full agonists,

I would strongly advise not pursuing either if you aren't ready to quit. If you just want to integrate these in with other use... As in still use on top of methadone, only use bupe when you run out of heroin, etc ...then these drugs will psychologically become intertwined with your abuse and it will make it more difficult (if not impossible) to be able to use these to actually quit in the future. I'm sure some people have abused these drugs or integrated them into abuse patterns and were able to successfully use them as quitting aids/maintenance, however I wouldn't risk taking effective treatment options off the table.

Lastly, if you are acquiring the benzos illicitly, its very possible any bupe or 'done doc would test you and refuse treatment unless you quit. Buprenorphine + benzos is more so a legal liability for the physician while 'done + benzo has put many a users in the ground and can be quite dangerous depending on the dose. If you have a legitimate prescription and take appropriate doses, some doctors will still treat you without issue.

^Exactly, very well said. Does this guy freakin' nail it or what?
 
If you go to a methadone/suboxone clinic all you need to do is test positive for opiates and they will put you on the program.

^^this, depending on the doctor. I've been on suboxone 3x with 3 different doctors, each one is a little different. But IME you have to test positive first. Some doctors are strict as fuck and want you to do outpatient rehab first, or all sorts of shit. Other doctors take cash only and will basically write your script and send you on your way.

However, DO NOT take this shit too lightly. I'm currently psychically dependent on suboxone and the withdrawals are no joke. (Especially the longer you take it the worse the withdrawals get). I've been off and on it for 4 years and last time I tried to quit the withdrawal was just as bad (if not worse) than my IV heroin addiction, and it lasted 2x as long.
 
thx for your replies, I must precise that Im not a heroin user neither than IVer.

When your hocked on it is it worse than Benzo withdrawal ?
 
ya, agree with everyone.... you cant go for a small period and then be done with it, also this may ruin your chances for when you really need it.
 
Unless you have some serious opiate tolerance you probably won't like bupe, also without tolerance a maintenance dose of methadone taken over a couple days could build up in your body and kill you
 
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