Strange and rather rare psychotic thoughts

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It seems that I suffer rather rare type of psychotic thoughts. If I binge on stims, I don't get any paranormal thoughts, only things that are 100% possible and rather realistic. Like I start to think that people manipulate me to do thinks, without being aware of it myseld it, like manipulating my subconscious. I also experience these when I drink. Like last time when I was up for one day and drunk few beer with my friend I was sure he is manipulating me. It took many hours before these thoughts went off, but I still get these when I'm sober. Also I start to believe that I'm the center of all the events, also the good ones. Not anything like I'm jesus or type like that but completely normal things, like lots of people I know come and gather to see me to some place. Its rather strange thing. Not sure what it is but its nothing like psychosis people have described, no aliens, no CIA guys, if its negative than its people try to manipulate me or use me or theyve send someone to beat me up for something. If its good everyone is liking me and all they say seems to be like they really like me.
 
I think it's a common misconception that psychosis should we about aliens and such. Psychotic thoughts doesn't have to be far out, as in the cia is going to kill me, but thinking that your friend is out to manipulate you and do you harm, is in some way, rather unrealistic as well.

Thinking that certain events is really about you is called ideas of reference, and again, it doesn't have to be extreme. If you're certain that the typing error in todays newspaper was made because of something you did, then something is obviously not right.

It's hard to know exactly how severe it is for you without you writing more. Does it cause you distress even when you're sober, or is it mostly the stimulants causing this?
 
I think it's a common misconception that psychosis should we about aliens and such. Psychotic thoughts doesn't have to be far out, as in the cia is going to kill me, but thinking that your friend is out to manipulate you and do you harm, is in some way, rather unrealistic as well.

Thinking that certain events is really about you is called ideas of reference, and again, it doesn't have to be extreme. If you're certain that the typing error in todays newspaper was made because of something you did, then something is obviously not right.

It's hard to know exactly how severe it is for you without you writing more. Does it cause you distress even when you're sober, or is it mostly the stimulants causing this?

I get these when I'm stressed and yes it causes even more distress. It's something that comes and goes, first time this happened when I smoked weed with my friend. I also noticed after that I started to have difficulties to think clearly and speak. Nowadays I can get these almost with any drug. I can't smoke weed anymore. Also I've been in amphetamine and MDMA+cannabis induced psychosis after that MDPV induced for about 6 months these effects that I told in first post, didn't use anything then. It sucks, as I've been keeping off from people, so I can isolate myself. But there is good times and bad times, when its bad I'm apathetic, depressed don't talk much, my cognitive functions lower a lot, so that its hard to even write anything or trying to concentrate to anything. But when its good "episode" going, I'm social and don't have any anxiety or psychotic thoughts like people are manipulating me.
 
One of my best friends of 10 yrs started thinking I was into evil stuff, devil worship, evil hypnosis used to manipulate and control him. He has sconce thought the same to most all his old friends and will never speak to us again. It's real sad we lost a good friend and he's continued on without diagnosis and meds. Just a warning. Hope you can fix the cause and keep your friendships going.
 
I get these when I'm stressed and yes it causes even more distress. It's something that comes and goes, first time this happened when I smoked weed with my friend. I also noticed after that I started to have difficulties to think clearly and speak. Nowadays I can get these almost with any drug. I can't smoke weed anymore. Also I've been in amphetamine and MDMA+cannabis induced psychosis after that MDPV induced for about 6 months these effects that I told in first post, didn't use anything then. It sucks, as I've been keeping off from people, so I can isolate myself. But there is good times and bad times, when its bad I'm apathetic, depressed don't talk much, my cognitive functions lower a lot, so that its hard to even write anything or trying to concentrate to anything. But when its good "episode" going, I'm social and don't have any anxiety or psychotic thoughts like people are manipulating me.

Based on what you're writing I would strongly advise you to see a psychiatrist, anti-psychotic medication could very well help you to a better quality of life, if you can find the right one.

I can relate to a lot of what you write, I have these problems myself, but they have lessened since I've been on risperdal/abilify. It''s definetly a good idea to keep away from drugs, not that I do that myself all that well, but as you've found out, they can really mess with the symptoms.

So, in short, see a psychiatrist, you could probably benefit from some meds.

Good luck and keep us updated :)
 
I experienced psychosis about 5 years ago. Like Mukaki said, it doesn't have to be about aliens or ninjas or Jesus (though I've been cooped up with people who did have those thoughts). My thinking was completely disturbed, I thought all my ideas were incredibly grandiose and that people I knew were out to get me, including my own mother.

It was a manic kind of psychosis, so I felt on top of the world. It took about three weeks locked up for me to come down and even then I had some remaining psychosis. Compared to what I experienced, what you're mentioning seems harmless, but there could be things you're not mentioning that would indicate real psychosis. I would visit a professional, they would be the best judge.

If they do prescribe meds, just be wary. This episode of mine was caused by coming off of the med Effexor.
 
Among the most common manifestations of psychosis is delusions of reference-where you think things going on around you are about you when they are not. Sometimes thinking real world activities are directed to you and sometimes thinking that media like TV, radio, or internet contain accounts of your day to day activities or specially encoded messages to you or about you.

Another very common manifestation is to believe or "perceive" that someone or something is inserting thoughts into one's mind, blocking or jamming one's thoughts, or believing one's thoughts are leaking out or being broadcast for others to hear.

Any symptoms like these need to be treated as seriously as hearing voices because they can escalate to someone being very out of control and even dangerous.

If symptoms like these are caused by drug use, discontinue the drugs. If they persist after drug use get psychiatric help. Drug caused psychosis should remit at minimum a week after discontinuation or again get psychiatric help.
 
If your having all these delusional states of though, why are you using amphetamines? Stop using substances for an extended period of time, and see a doctor if your thoughts are still scrambled.
 
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