friend going insane?

[any major dude]

Sounds like he has some problems that may or may not be drug related that require professional help. Obviously he should stop with all drugs immediately and see a psychiatrist. I don't think it sounds like he needs drug rehab from the info the OP gave, but he definitely needs medical care. Alot of times people are too quick to send someone off to rehab for problems that drug use are a symptom of and not the cause. This can result in the patient coming out worse than they went in. If all else fails, the next time he loses it, take him to the hospital.

 

[highonlife40]

^Here in the US, its not hard to get someone committed for a 72-hour observation period. You just need to somehow document that they are "a danger to themselves or others".

Psychiatry fails to deal with many conditions properly, but it has a great track record with managing acute psychosis. In most cases, the person can be stabilized with antipsychotics and they're back to normal in a couple days--

Ughh some friend you are.... do not get your friend locked up unless they are or will be a danger to themselves or others, and it is the only way, do not lie.

As for the glowing reference to psychiatry outcomes for patients in places with no "professional" mental health are actually statistically better according to wiki

World Health Organization studies have noted that individuals diagnosed with schizophrenia have much better long-term outcomes in developing countries (India, Colombia and Nigeria) than in developed countries (United States, United Kingdom, Ireland, Denmark, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Japan, and Russia),[174] despite antipsychotic drugs not being widely available.

I might also remind you the mental health "profession" would rather give you drugs with high side effects and/or electro shock therapy and in the past lobotomies and never even consider heroin or similar which works well for many conditions

 

[Xorkoth]

Ughh some friend you are.... do not get your friend locked up unless they are or will be a danger to themselves or others, and it is the only way, do not lie.

Well he did say that his friend trips a lot and every time he threatens to kill himself. So I'd say that's a pretty extreme situation that requires intervention. Maybe you missed that part. He was never going to lie. The truth is plenty and that is why he's concerned, because he doesn't want his friend to kill himself.

 

[CatfishRivers]

Has anyone asked the guy straight up why he continues to take psychedelics if he seems to struggle with it each time? I'd be curious to hear his answer.

 

[highonlife40]

Well he did say that his friend trips a lot and every time he threatens to kill himself. .

I read that, its just well some people say it to tell how they feel and to get attention with a low likelihood of doing it..... it may not always be the best decision to lock them up and may lead to friend feeling betrayed and even more low as they feel isolated unable to confide in you without risk of being locked up and may contribute to a downward spiral

 

[whitemilk661]

never even consider heroin or similar which works well for many conditions

Care to elaborate on that?

 

[Xorkoth]

I read that, its just well some people say it to tell how they feel and to get attention with a low likelihood of doing it..... it may not always be the best decision to lock them up and may lead to friend feeling betrayed and even more low as they feel isolated unable to confide in you without risk of being locked up and may contribute to a downward spiral

Well I don't think it's a good move to fail to take suicide threats seriously. Because if you're wrong, they might be dead. And if you're right, well, the fact that they're threatening suicide for attention means they need some help too. That's not healthy behavior in any case.

I mean, in some instances it's the responsibility of the family and possibly the friends to force people to get help if they're at a stage of mental illness or whatever that doesn't allow them to be able to make sound decisions about that kind of stuff.

It's really the family's responsibility though, not yours, OP. You really need to inform the family about what's going on and they should take care of it. You can be there for him with them, but they should lead the effort because it is their son/brother.

 

[bignerdnine]

The guy is either showing out or he isn't wired right for the drugs he's taking. Either way it's destructive. I can't think of a single situation where destructive behavior shouldn't be taken seriously. I agree with Xorkoth.

 

[downfallin]

@roger and me, his only close relative is his dad who he lives with. His dad has a brain tumor and is also losing it. There is no stability, and when me and my friend brought a girl to the house, she actually started to cry because of how crazy everything was. She was also really high making her more paranoid but still... also my friend is saying he wants to move to santa cruz, for a change which i think might be good for him, but theres also a bigger drug scene there than in my town. idk im pretty sure he wouldnt wanna go get therapy but i dont see anything working right now...