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Candyflip vs. Hippyflip

I seriously thought from looking at the title this was a thread about hippys vs. kandy kids or w/e.

lol


Sorry for the useless posts (90% of my posts outside of the social thread are pointless, I'm sure.) but I'm willing to bet this theads gonna get closed.

Unfortunately for you, Mr. Thizzlam, you are gonna have to do some research of your own. :)
 
I seriously thought from looking at the title this was a thread about hippys vs. kandy kids or w/e.

lol


Sorry for the useless posts (90% of my posts outside of the social thread are pointless, I'm sure.) but I'm willing to bet this theads gonna get closed.

Unfortunately for you, Mr. Thizzlam, you are gonna have to do some research of your own. :)

Well I'm down for some hands on learning.
 
K I'll fax you some acid whats your #?



But the reason these threads don't really work is cause what one person might say about acid another might say about shrooms, or vice-versa.


The effects of psychedelics can vary wildly among individuals so there is no definite differences in effects.
 
K I'll fax you some acid whats your #?



But the reason these threads don't really work is cause what one person might say about acid another might say about shrooms, or vice-versa.


The effects of psychedelics can vary wildly among individuals so there is no definite differences in effects.

My number is 619-867-5309 lol.

I understand that. I just can't get a straight answer out of my friends about which is better or even a decent description of it..
 
LSDMDMA&8649257 said:
LSD is moar stimulating, cleaner feeling, less of a body high, more lucid and clear.
shrooms are dark, stoning, cloudy..

I think there's more to it - you make shrooms sound bad on every metric, which I think is unfair. Shrooms are certainly more confusing, and have less of a positive push, but i feel like there are qualitative aspects beyond that that cast shrooms in a more positive light, but there aren't good ways to describe it. That said, i do prefer acid over shrooms.

Shrooms _do_ have one easy qualitative advantage - they're significantly shorter, and combined with the shorter duration and less stimulating nature, you can take them much later in the day without fucking up your sleep cycle.

As for OP's question about how to describe it - it's very hard to describe it to someone who hasn't tripped. It's not that your friends don't want to tell you, it's just extremely hard to describe tripping to someone who hasn't - and also it's very hard to rate two very good, but different, typical psychedelics against eachother. Plenty of people consider shrooms and LSD to be equally valuable but for different sets/settings.

I would strongly, strongly recommend taking LSD or shrooms on their own, and enjoying and experiencing them without another powerful drug like MDMA, before you consider a flip with them. Not just in the interest of making sure you have a good trip, but even as a matter of respect for the substance. LSD is a wonderful and magical chemical, and I find the idea of not taking it and it alone (well, with some weed too, of course) on one's first time to be irreverant almost. Your first psychedelic trip (MDA is psychedelic, but it's got other stuff going on, and i don't think it is a sufficient representative of typical psychedelics) shouldn't be "contaminated" with things that completely change the nature of the experience (just like i wouldn't advocate an experienced tripper having their first time with MDMA be as part of a candy flip)
 
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Understand these two psychs can be intense at the right dose, and there nothing like MDMA or any other drug. At a reasonable dose the drug will take over you.
 
I think there's more to it - you make shrooms sound bad on every metric, which I think is unfair. Shrooms are certainly more confusing, and have less of a positive push, but i feel like there are qualitative aspects beyond that that cast shrooms in a more positive light, but there aren't good ways to describe it. That said, i do prefer acid over shrooms.

Shrooms _do_ have one easy qualitative advantage - they're significantly shorter, and combined with the shorter duration and less stimulating nature, you can take them much later in the day without fucking up your sleep cycle.

As for OP's question about how to describe it - it's very hard to describe it to someone who hasn't tripped. It's not that your friends don't want to tell you, it's just extremely hard to describe tripping to someone who hasn't - and also it's very hard to rate two very good, but different, typical psychedelics against eachother. Plenty of people consider shrooms and LSD to be equally valuable but for different sets/settings.

I would strongly, strongly recommend taking LSD or shrooms on their own, and enjoying and experiencing them without another powerful drug like MDMA, before you consider a flip with them. Not just in the interest of making sure you have a good trip, but even as a matter of respect for the substance. LSD is a wonderful and magical chemical, and I find the idea of not taking it and it alone (well, with some weed too, of course) on one's first time to be irreverant almost. Your first psychedelic trip (MDA is psychedelic, but it's got other stuff going on, and i don't think it is a sufficient representative of typical psychedelics) shouldn't be "contaminated" with things that completely change the nature of the experience (just like i wouldn't advocate an experienced tripper having their first time with MDMA be as part of a candy flip)
well i said how they are for me
i like mushrooms but they dont have the overwhelming lulz and happy feelings of LSD.
and they are stoning, you get a weird body high, a stoned type body high.
 
I think there's more to it - you make shrooms sound bad on every metric, which I think is unfair. Shrooms are certainly more confusing, and have less of a positive push, but i feel like there are qualitative aspects beyond that that cast shrooms in a more positive light, but there aren't good ways to describe it. That said, i do prefer acid over shrooms.

Shrooms _do_ have one easy qualitative advantage - they're significantly shorter, and combined with the shorter duration and less stimulating nature, you can take them much later in the day without fucking up your sleep cycle.

As for OP's question about how to describe it - it's very hard to describe it to someone who hasn't tripped. It's not that your friends don't want to tell you, it's just extremely hard to describe tripping to someone who hasn't - and also it's very hard to rate two very good, but different, typical psychedelics against eachother. Plenty of people consider shrooms and LSD to be equally valuable but for different sets/settings.

I would strongly, strongly recommend taking LSD or shrooms on their own, and enjoying and experiencing them without another powerful drug like MDMA, before you consider a flip with them. Not just in the interest of making sure you have a good trip, but even as a matter of respect for the substance. LSD is a wonderful and magical chemical, and I find the idea of not taking it and it alone (well, with some weed too, of course) on one's first time to be irreverant almost. Your first psychedelic trip (MDA is psychedelic, but it's got other stuff going on, and i don't think it is a sufficient representative of typical psychedelics) shouldn't be "contaminated" with things that completely change the nature of the experience (just like i wouldn't advocate an experienced tripper having their first time with MDMA be as part of a candy flip)

I agree. I'd like to add that with mushrooms the body high is stronger, and with acid you really have to time the acid and X correctly to get the maximum synergy of the acid waves with the mdma waves. also it sucks to be crashing from E and still HIGH on L. i cant tell you the timing because everyone reacts differently. the first time, i'd recomend taking the L first and waitign till you're almost down, and then taking a pill. also, ive noticed less is more (hence why i used the term synergy) maybe take half your normal dose of both? always add more, but can't subtract.
 
I think there's more to it - you make shrooms sound bad on every metric, which I think is unfair. Shrooms are certainly more confusing, and have less of a positive push, but i feel like there are qualitative aspects beyond that that cast shrooms in a more positive light, but there aren't good ways to describe it. That said, i do prefer acid over shrooms.

Shrooms _do_ have one easy qualitative advantage - they're significantly shorter, and combined with the shorter duration and less stimulating nature, you can take them much later in the day without fucking up your sleep cycle.

As for OP's question about how to describe it - it's very hard to describe it to someone who hasn't tripped. It's not that your friends don't want to tell you, it's just extremely hard to describe tripping to someone who hasn't - and also it's very hard to rate two very good, but different, typical psychedelics against eachother. Plenty of people consider shrooms and LSD to be equally valuable but for different sets/settings.

I would strongly, strongly recommend taking LSD or shrooms on their own, and enjoying and experiencing them without another powerful drug like MDMA, before you consider a flip with them. Not just in the interest of making sure you have a good trip, but even as a matter of respect for the substance. LSD is a wonderful and magical chemical, and I find the idea of not taking it and it alone (well, with some weed too, of course) on one's first time to be irreverant almost. Your first psychedelic trip (MDA is psychedelic, but it's got other stuff going on, and i don't think it is a sufficient representative of typical psychedelics) shouldn't be "contaminated" with things that completely change the nature of the experience (just like i wouldn't advocate an experienced tripper having their first time with MDMA be as part of a candy flip)

That is extremely insightful and helpful. Thank you very much. :)
 
ive never hippy flipped but i have candy flipped way more times than i should have. candy flipping for me was most significant experience of my life, it turned my entire existence around literally over night. its a total game changer. its truly a sacred experience and nothing i say about it in words will even come close describing it. i think, when done properly, candy flipping is the most uplifting experience a human being can have.

take acid first and wait 3 to 4 hours before dropping the roll. then smoke a shit load of weed and close your eyes. you will see the truth and enter a state of total god realization.
 
Merged - please use the not so small and quite dandy index as a guide for your general questions, this one is to be found through either the Big & Dandy LSD or Mushrooms thread --> Candyflip or Hippyflip thread ---> this vs. thread.

Also, OP and recently discussing people check out the older stuff in this thread FYI :)
 
I don't even time it...

Most recently I took 200mg of MDMA and 1.5 - 2 hours later ingested 400ug of LSD. I didn't notice any bad effects at all throughout the trip. Same shit as always just more euphoric and more intense visuals. Even back in the day when the rolls I got were 1:1 MDMA to methamphetamine I never felt shitty if I ate a few tabs sometime later. The hallucinogen pretty much cancels out any negative effects from amphetamines for me. Don't know about everyone else though.
 
I don't even time it...

Most recently I took 200mg of MDMA and 1.5 - 2 hours later ingested 400ug of LSD. I didn't notice any bad effects at all throughout the trip. Same shit as always just more euphoric and more intense visuals. Even back in the day when the rolls I got were 1:1 MDMA to methamphetamine I never felt shitty if I ate a few tabs sometime later. The hallucinogen pretty much cancels out any negative effects from amphetamines for me. Don't know about everyone else though.

i feel that LSD and MDMA cancel the negative effects of one another as well but i disagree with your lack of timing. i think for anyone who is looking to candyflip for the first time needs to already have solid experience with LSD and MDMA separately first (this has been stated already). Secondly, the timing is all important. I've candyflipped by dropping the LSD then waited only an hour then dropping the MDMA with no redosing. When the MDMA wore off, i felt the edge of the LSD much more than normal. I felt an incredible amount of anxiety and wished i had a benzo. On a different night, my wife did the same and got the same effect. I would drop the LSD and wait no sooner than 3 hours before dropping the MDMA. Of course the more LSD you take (or more potent your blotter/etc is) the longer it can last, but i'd say waiting 3 hours is a safe bet. When i wait a good 3 hours it works out PERFECTLY. just like someone in one of the earlier pages of this thread said, i saw fireworks in my head. i've had the fireworks happen twice while candyflipping. the euphoria is absolutely amazing, dare i say better than sex? i thought mdma felt like a brain orgasm, oh no.... LSD + MDMA at the right set/setting, the right dosage levels for you, and the right timing.... now that is a brain orgasm. the physical feeling is absolutely unreal. but beware, you will be very fucked up. during the peak i had no idea WTF was going on, i was lost in my own head but i'll be damned if it wasn't the most mindblowing experience i've ever had.

let's not forget about mescaline. mescaline hcl is wonderful but pretty damn speedy, it would work well with mdma as mdma would take off the edge as it does with LSD. but if you have san pedro tea, i find tea to have no excessive stimulation like pure mescaline does. the sedative cactus alkaloids offset that so i find the tea to feel "rolly" in that it has a natural speedball type of effect, much more euphoric than pure mescaline. having said all this, i've mixed san pedro tea with mdma and it floored me too much, i wasn't sure if i was awake or asleep at times. when i mixed san pedro tea with mda, that was something beautiful. mda being more stimulating, san pedro tea being more euphoric and relaxed, mix together well they offset each other to reach something special. much in the way that lsd (stimulating) and mdma (relaxing) do. i've never hippy flipped, i've eaten lots of shrooms over the years but i always have a love/hate relationship with them. to me shrooms are a bit too confusing, they almost always mess up my stomach in a real heavy uncomfortable way, i also feel that shroom trips are much more primal and animalistic compared to lsd and mescaline. lsd being very analytical and mescaline being very profound, shrooms to me are very primal. mescaline and lsd are not as problematic for me so i prefer to mix them with mdma. it all depends on your mindset though, that's just how i view them personally.
 
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hippy flipping is my personal favorite... Throw some nitrous in there doesnt get much better then that
 
^True, but according to my calculations he still took 14g dry. And that's still a mind-boggingly epic amount.

no, he took about 6.8g... the copelandia's were fresh

granted, that's still a huge amount and copelandia are markedly more potent than cubensis so i'd make that about 8g
 
first time doing any drugs was a candyflip at a festival. dont see how you could go wrong with that
 
I always enjoy hippieflipping but candyflipping has true synergy. hippieflipping is very enjoyable but doesn't "lock in" together like LSD and MDMA combos can. A mushroom and MDMA night can still end up being very scrambled and overwhelming. LSD and MDMA combos seem to take the edge off the acid and take the temporary dumbness out of the MDMA.

I find any amphetamine class drug can really lucidify a LSD trip making it a very good semi social combo, say with a group or friends. makes for deep yet aloof conversation.
 
Can you flip with any good empathogen (methylone?)? What about using a phenethylamine rather than LSD or psilocin? I'd like to know how 2C flips are; I saw on another forum someone doing a mescaline flip, and it got an outrageously good report. But I do think mescaline is so good on it's own as well.
 
hippi flipping (the perfect experience)

I have tried hippi flipping in the past, but never to full succession. I would either feel the trip or the roll stronger than the other.
Last Friday I took an MDA capsule (which is more psychedelic than MDMA to begin with), and ate a few thick stems and a head of some shrooms I had just bought. I ate the shrooms first at my house then right before we got into the cab to go to the party I popped the MDA. I started feeling the shrooms on the way to the party and was enjoying myself aside from my friend's complaining about his stomach hurting. My other friend was being an asshole saying that we were both going to crash hard for taking the MDA (he was only on shrooms). My other friend who only took shrooms couldn't even handle it and had to go home like a fuckin baby.
Anyway, we get to the party and im already trippin hard. My friend lost his passport and can't get into the party cuz he has no form of ID. I try to help him calm down cuz hes the only one hippi flippin besides me. I get him in a cab and then head into the party.
Eventhough I had to deal with some annoying shit at the beginning, I started feeling amazing the second I walked into the room. It felt as if I was being born again. I could feel my face and it felt as if I was literally "touching" the music in waves. When I started touching my face with my hands I realized I had taken the perfect amount of both and I was finally experiencing a perfect "hippi flip". I'ven tried cany flipping before but it was kindof by accident ( I was already comepletely fucked up). maybe thats why i didnt appreciate its full effects when I did it. Who knows?
What I do know is that as of now Hippi flipping is better for me..What are your opinions on which is more enjoyable? :)
 
I've never taken just shrooms and mdma together, or lsd and mdma together, but I have taken all three together. 5 grams of shrooms, 200mg of mdma, and a hit of lsd. All this over the course of a day though. It was fucking great!!!
 
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