The 6-APB thread v. Is full of dummies

[JohnnyVodka]

Haha true. Reading some of these reports, think I might need to book the next week off! Just seems to be very much a matter of pot-luck whether you get a good few or a batch of duds atm hopefully by the weekend we'll have more clarity... or even less.

I honestly think some people are just trying to find problems with the stuff. If you don't have a pretty good time off one pellet, I'd be amazed!

 

[Osky_P]

So the best routes are crushed orally in isotonic drinks. Or taking it up the arse? Shame the active dose seems to be so different pellet to pellet, can't get an average come-up / come-down time. If only we could list vendors, be interesting to collect average amounts and come-up time's for each of the 'big 5', see if there are any clear differences? Or if they are just five separate vendors, different batches, getting together to call themselves the 'Official' distributors to up their profits and cut out the others.

Conspiracies aside, what do people think would be a good time to drop for a night out on the town based on personal experiences and general reports? and whole pellet or 1/2, then 1/2 again few hours later as many seem to suggest? Long as keeps me going through til the early hours! :D been a while since i've done any RC's, hope this one won't let me down! Not getting my hopes up from the highly varied reports around.

ymmv as always, but i would say do half first if you're planning on an evening out, although some half pellet reports were underwhelming.. who knows, dude. bit gouchy for me going-out-wise for a full one... coupla toots of meph though with half could be tickety-boo

for any of those on the fence... suck it and see... if works for ya great, if not oh well

 

[ABCDFG I Ate The E]

I honestly think some people are just trying to find problems with the stuff. If you don't have a pretty good time off one pellet, I'd be amazed!

people are trying to find little things wrong to bitch about because of all the hype around it

 

[MrDoIt]

Hi. Hope your having a good night osky P others !!

Went back to bed around 5pm - slept for another 4 hours until just after 9. Still feel a bit wired and eyes still very big. Friend is still a bit crazy too !! No real noticable effects on comedown apart from tiredness and stretched eyes !! Friend had really bad headache before we slept at 6am - my head was also very heavy - which is in total contrast to the lightness you feel on coming up. Once again I must say that my experience seemed nothing like any of the original samplers of powder, which is a shame as thats what I was looking for and expecting. Definitely underwhelming (and that was after 2 1/2 pillets!!), but still very enjoyable experience....

Oh just for those who were talking about not receiving their order from one of the "O5", Im also in the same boat - ordered Friday and still not received. Initials of MR if anyone would like to confrm same place ?

Take care guys - One way or another we have a winner here - although needs some tweaking by suppliers.

 

[xNockturnaLx]

Whole pellet in 1 go would be perfect for clubbing imo. Personally, I'd try it on your own first to just see how much you need to get where you want etc, but for clubbing i'd recommend crushing it up in some form of energy/isotonic drink about 30 minutes before going so that you arent so fucked by the time you get there that the bouncers turn you away

Just what I wanted to hear this sounds exactly what I was hoping for, a chem can drop 30mins before going in and that's it, no more spiking your own drinks or running off to rack up lines every 5 mins like the meph fiend I was. Can actually get into half the old clubs again now I'm not turning up on the door a gurning mess

 

[Osky_P]

Xorkoth, where do you stand on pokey bum wanks?

lmfao :D :D

 

[TMenderoflives]

If you're okay going past bouncers while 'up', you could probably drop one of these at 8pm and be well fired up for God knows how long. Like I said, I had half (prob less) at 6:30pm and I think I'm still at a peak. Had a few drinks too, so maybe that has some interaction.

I think timings are fairly consistent regardless of dose - 2 hours or slightly more to peak, 3 or 4 hours of peak, then slow fading of effects.

Took me about an hour to come up which felt like an age when my friend who i was taking it with started to peak after just 15 minutes or so! I wouldnt just assume that it is definitely going to take 2 hours to get to the peak and plan your night around that assumption.

 

[JohnnyVodka]

This half would more than do me for a typical town club... but for a proper club you may want more. It's hard to know what it would feel like once you're out, with the stimulation of music, lights & girls. I thought I wasn't feeling much, then blasted music through headphones and it sounded amazing!

 

[I NUK3D U]

^I'm genuinely happy that this finally got released. I tried the 2nd sample synth and it was amazing (albeing, quite a large amount taken).

If I have any negativity, it is not towards the vendors either. I think they've acted honestly throughout despite a number of massive massive problems.

Unfortunately these problems I think are still continuing, and I'm pretty sure:

(1) No affiliate vendors received their wholesale orders from official 5
(2) That the official 5 received a small fraction of what they were expecting
(3) The cause of this issues cannot be resolved easily (speak to any lab in the east and they will tell you that getting precursors for anything is extremely hard at the moment, and only small purchases get through under the radar. Obviously this drastically increases the cost of production, and makes the pace of synthesis almost untenable vs the demand for the product).
(4) Therefore, I predict, this will be 'out of stock', fairly shortly.

Hope I'm wrong.

 

[afctu]

Once again I must say that my experience seemed nothing like any of the original samplers of powder, which is a shame as thats what I was looking for and expecting. Definitely underwhelming (and that was after 2 1/2 pillets!!), but still very enjoyable experience.....

This, is what is annoying me. I know how good the samples were, and it annoys me greatly there are some reports out there like this. There shouldn't need to be.

Its either

a) Poor mixing process, some pills stronger than others = amatuer.
b) A different substance, which i wouldn't completely rule out judging by the some of the reports.
c) The pellet dosage is not 100mg, but something much less.

I think A is most likely. B is unlikely. If it is C, they need to half the prices at least.

I am sorry for putting a downer on this, but something has clearly gone wrong somewhere.

The hype from the samples was deserved. It really was that good.

 

[MrDoIt]

Oh just wanted t ask if anyone (Scooby I know you have) Tried the sample of 2-ai ? Effects ? If any !! Was thinking might try some now as Im fairly sure its going to be quite inactive.

 

[JohnnyVodka]

Took me about an hour to come up which felt like an age when my friend who i was taking it with started to peak after just 15 minutes or so! I wouldnt just assume that it is definitely going to take 2 hours to get to the peak and plan your night around that assumption.

My come up started about an hour in (this was a small dose, not on an empty stomach and with both booze and green tea) and peaked an hour or so after that. On most stuff, I'm a regular 40 mins till I start coming up. I'm very anal about when dropping out too because I hate the idea of trying to get past bouncers once it kicks in. I'm crap at hiding even when I'm on small doses of most things. However, drop this too late and it might not kick in properly until you're leaving the club.

I think the point to note that is compared to a lot of mainstream stims to expect a bit of extra time at every stage.

 

[afctu]

^I'm genuinely happy that this finally got released. I tried the 2nd sample synth and it was amazing (albeing, quite a large amount taken).

If I have any negativity, it is not towards the vendors either. I think they've acted honestly throughout despite a number of massive massive problems.

Unfortunately these problems I think are still continuing, and I'm pretty sure:

(1) No affiliate vendors received their wholesale orders from official 5
(2) That the official 5 received a small fraction of what they were expecting
(3) The cause of this issues cannot be resolved easily (speak to any lab in the east and they will tell you that getting precursors for anything is extremely hard at the moment, and only small purchases get through under the radar. Obviously this drastically increases the cost of production, and makes the pace of synthesis almost untenable vs the demand for the product).
(4) Therefore, I predict, this will be 'out of stock', fairly shortly.

Hope I'm wrong.

It will be out of stock soon, as one of the official five vendors has informed via e-mail that the second batch is not expected until 4-8 weeks from now.

 

[Vurtual]

Haven't tried it in pellet form but after reading through this thread i would suggest its a slow come-up of roughly 2 hours.

From my experiences of an 80mg sample.... i took it at 7pm was up by 8. peaked for a good 4 hours, slowly tailed off, and was asleep by 6am. I still felt slightly wired when i woke up at 11am. But that was with a combo of weed and booze, and i could well be a different story altogether with the pellets.

I wouldn't worry about it not lasting all night.

That description is very similar sounding to what i got off one pellet last night (and when i did sample). Yeah i think it's about 10-12 hours start to finish, 1-2 hours come-up; 4-6 hours peak/plateau and then residual stimulation gradually fading off for a few hours. This after effect bit is nice, but i don't know if i could sleep easily on it. So take it early if you want to sleep, (but the best bit is the first 4-6 hours, so maybe not so early that you're stuck out without a redose)

 

[afctu]

That description is very similar sounding to what i got off one pellet last night (and when i did sample). Yeah i think it's about 10-12 hours start to finish, 1-2 hours come-up; 4-6 hours peak/plateau and then residual stimulation gradually fading off for a few hours. This after effect bit is nice, but i don't know if i could sleep easily on it. So take it early if you want to sleep, (but the best bit is the first 4-6 hours, so maybe not so early that you're stuck out without a redose)

I also had strong visuals of the sample, which lasted about half an hour towards the end of the peak. The visuals started when i went outside, and stopped when i went back in.

 

[amomentlikethis]

Hi. Hope your having a good night osky P others !!

Oh just for those who were talking about not receiving their order from one of the "O5", Im also in the same boat - ordered Friday and still not received. Initials of MR if anyone would like to confrm same place ?

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Same for me, ordered on Friday from same place and nothing heard since after initial 'order received' and 'payment processed' emails!

Bit gutted as I have today and tomorrow off and wanted to test one this evening!

Fingered crossed mate!

 

[TMenderoflives]

My come up started about an hour in (this was a small dose, not on an empty stomach and with both booze and green tea) and peaked an hour or so after that. On most stuff, I'm a regular 40 mins till I start coming up. I'm very anal about when dropping out too because I hate the idea of trying to get past bouncers once it kicks in. I'm crap at hiding even when I'm on small doses of most things. However, drop this too late and it might not kick in properly until you're leaving the club.

I think the point to note that is compared to a lot of mainstream stims to expect a bit of extra time at every stage.

I'm with you on that one! The paranoia arrives and the "they MUST know ive taken something" feeling sets in and I generally start acting a hell of a lot shiftier.

Wouldn't recommend taking this more than an hour before you plan on being in the club. Although if you're more accomplished than me in getting past bouncers when high, you could probably push this back a bit.

From what i've learnt, come up times and dosage required are very subjective and can vary greatly from user to user. Unless you've only got the 1 pellet, it would probably be worth sampling at home or with friends so that you know how long it takes to kick in and what the right doasage for you is. Should also make you more prepared for the effects so that you don't look like a right shady character once youre in the club

 

[Osky_P]

Oh just wanted t ask if anyone (Scooby I know you have) Tried the sample of 2-ai ? Effects ? If any !! Was thinking might try some now as Im fairly sure its going to be quite inactive.

evening MrD glad al is well, albeit a tad underwhelmed for you... i think this maybe a victim of its own hype perhaps... coz if i'd av got this as free reletively unknown sample, i would have been waxing lyrical like the original posts. dunno... i like it... going though different stages... was contemplating another half but stood up moved around had a beer and a shit (first one... beer and shit) and thought maybe i'd wait... quite trippy i have to say, i sat on the bog writing about 6 posts then suddenly realised i was on the bog... nice defo peaking... 2 hour onset 2 hour coming up takes me to now round the 4 hour mark. love it man, but over-conscious about talking codshit and appearing like a twat... oh wait a minute

 

[Vurtual]

I also had strong visuals of the sample, which lasted about half an hour towards the end of the peak. The visuals started when i went outside, and stopped when i went back in.

I didn't really - a little bit of visual distortion (on sample and pellet), but nothing like when i've knowingly done mda in the past (remember pink barrels anyone?): i'd expect much more prominent visuals from mda - but ymmv (and i didn't go out in the dark which would have intensified visuals i s'pose).

 

[xNockturnaLx]

I honestly think some people are just trying to find problems with the stuff. If you don't have a pretty good time off one pellet, I'd be amazed!

Guess everyone has their personal tastes in what they like, think we should all try be unbiased and instead of slander say if it's not for you, but say who it may be good for. Gives wrong impression when people say it's crap simply because the buzz isn't for them.