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The 6-APB thread (Part 2)

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Well, MrDoIt: Glad you decided on what was best for you, after being bitten the first time round, it's def better to wait the few extra days to get what your after, personally, I havent bought anything (apart from what I had tonight) new since drone was outlawed, whatever it is i've had tonight (im pretty sure its not 6apb) was alright though, think I'm almost at a normal level now where I can grab some zzz's before work.
jp: I hope you didnt think my posts this evening were overly encouraging to bing or to do more than, in several cases I did state it would be safer (although safest would be not at all) to start things slowly, I personally think whatever this is could have a darkside to it at even a little bit more than ive consumed tonight, as I said before, I'll be saving a little to run a marquis test on when I get a kit, just to see if I can determine what (if possible) this is, in the mean time I hope everyone else stays safe.
 
Don't fell at my best,sleep was awful,not sure if I did or not,seriously thinking a week night was a bad idea
 
jpcardiff said:
Thanks for proving my point, dimwit

I'm sorry that my post has gone over your head but for those who are seeking information about 6-apb it beggars belief people are discussing such high dosages all because they experimented with an unknown substance
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No need to get abusive. I'm just saying that for people who have purchased this weakened version of what is marketed as 6-apb, all things being relative, would it be beneficial increasing above the 100mg "official" stated dose to achieve any effects... Simply a question old chap. I did only enquire about 150mg at the end of the day, I'm not advocating boshing a gram and half of the stuff.

I apologize if my question was in any way irresponsible.
 
Peeping Tom said:
interesting posts Banjo, thanks for sharing last night. useful info all in all.

hope you aint feeling too rough today - you gonna slack work ?
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Nah,I've been here for an hour so far,bit detached from reality,n bit of a headache,part from that it's better than the hangover I had sat morning,forgot how bad. Alcohol is,lol
 
I really need to ask these direct questions and point out a couple of things here as so many people are getting caught up in the hype?

What proof is out there that the official version is 6-APB, not 6-APDB, in fact it could be anything?
Yes it works, but you have taken it on face value it is 6-APB

Not one version of 6-APB has been independantly analysed, christ for all we know genuine stuff might be as active as flour......

This is the whole point in researching these things, hence the term 'research chemicals' Yes it would much better and safer if we had a lab at hand to synthesis things for testing, but we don't.
So for us the first part of research is to conclude that the sample is indeed the chemicals it's been claimed to be.

Once again i will ask this question direct, can anyone prove to me that any of the 6-APB's out there are indeed 6-APB?
 
Ive got 100mg sealed sachet which i believe is from europe and a 200mg bag of white HCL supposedly 97% pure arriving today.

I would have liked to have sampled some this evening but work constraints mean I may well have to wait until tomorrow now!

Also ordered a single pellet apparently arriving tuesday hope i havent been ripped of with the pure powder but given the payment methods used im quite confident a refund can be aquired if the product is bunk. even if i have to be sneaky and claim the product never arrived ;-)

Will update later with pics of products!
 
acholmes2000 said:
Ive got 100mg sealed sachet which i believe is from europe and a 200mg bag of white HCL supposedly 97% pure arriving today.

I would have liked to have sampled some this evening but work constraints mean I may well have to wait until tomorrow now!

Also ordered a single pellet apparently arriving tuesday hope i havent been ripped of with the pure powder but given the payment methods used im quite confident a refund can be aquired if the product is bunk. even if i have to be sneaky and claim the product never arrived ;-)

Will update later with pics of products!
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I personally think the european one is the most likely to be genuine out of them all as the do have NMRs but obviously that was not independantly done.

Are you going to Maquis these side by side at all to see if there are any similarities?
 
Osky_P said:
No need to get abusive. I'm just saying that for people who have purchased this weakened version of what is marketed as 6-apb, all things being relative, would it be beneficial increasing above the 100mg "official" stated dose to achieve any effects... Simply a question old chap. I did only enquire about 150mg at the end of the day, I'm not advocating boshing a gram and half of the stuff.

I apologize if my question was in any way irresponsible.
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No but there are plenty of people who will read/skim through these threads upon arrival of the much purer stuff next week the danger being they mis-interprate what dosage is active/non-active.

I could kind of understand people indulging if there were significant delays but seeing as the release date has been confirmed why o why cant people just sit tight for a few days? I didnt mean to insult you it's just the way I come across

I would refer people to Mullered or Skyline reports contained within this thread for information on dosage and effects. From my experience alone it would be foolhardy to underestimate the come-up - start low and build up would be the clever thing to do.
 
BigFishLittleFish said:
I personally think the european one is the most likely to be genuine out of them all as the do have NMRs but obviously that was not independantly done.

Are you going to Maquis these side by side at all to see if there are any similarities?
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Unfortunately i will only have access to my own body as a research tool lol but will be cautious of course! are these reagent kits readily available to joe public and are they expensive as after this RC fiasco i feel i should probably invest in some for future use!
 
acholmes2000 said:
Unfortunately i will only have access to my own body as a research tool lol but will be cautious of course! are these reagent kits readily available to joe public and are they expensive as after this RC fiasco i feel i should probably invest in some for future use!
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Reagent kits are easily available to the public and are not that expensive.

MOD:
Is vendor talk allowed for suppliers of 'marquis test's
 
jpcardiff said:
No but there are plenty of people who will read/skim through these threads upon arrival of the much purer stuff next week the danger being they mis-interprate what dosage is active/non-active.

I could kind of understand people indulging if there were significant delays but seeing as the release date has been confirmed why o why cant people just sit tight for a few days? I didnt mean to insult you it's just the way I come across

I would refer people to Mullered or Skyline reports contained within this thread for information on dosage and effects. From my experience alone it would be foolhardy to underestimate the come-up - start low and build up would be the clever thing to do.
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Good call on the mullered/skyline reports, between them they have looked at most of the samples out there.

You mention people should sit tight and wait for the purer stuff. There's no information out there proving that any of these chemicals either have high purity levels of are in fact 6-APB

The only probable thing is that benzo grey is stronger than benzo brown.
 
BigFishLittleFish said:
Good call on the mullered/skyline reports, between them they have looked at most of the samples out there.

You mention people should sit tight and wait for the purer stuff. There's no information out there proving that any of these chemicals either have high purity levels of are in fact 6-APB

The only probable thing is that benzo grey is stronger than benzo brown.
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Aye poor choice of words on my behalf

'Stronger' stuff would perhaps be more apt. If, as we are to expect, the pellets contain the same substance as has been sampled by many people on here then its fair to say 100mg is more than enough.
 
Don't (or do; your choice) make the mistake I did and bomb 225mg of the pure samples that were given to a few people by the official 5. Misread scales :(

One of the most amazing times of my life - full OEV tripping, not just colours/shapes, but actual tangible objects in my field of vision that I was able to move around and play with. Simply awesome.

Downside is that I spent roughly 2 hours on the come up being very very violently ill. Great thereafter though ;)

(I'm pretty sure the 180mg pure MDMA might have possibly potentiated the experience too :), but I still think the genuine 6apb - when and if it ever arrives - is going to surprise people quite a bit)
 
BigFishLittleFish said:
And how will we know it's genuine 6-APB?
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3 options there:

1. Take the vendors word for it, and compare to trip reports of what is reported as 6-APB
2. Get it tested by an independent lab.
3. Don't believe that its 6-APB

Basically, the only real option, is the one that nobody is going to front the money or resources to do. Even if they did, whats to stop it differing from batch to batch?

We are all playing a game here, and taking chemicals that we cant be 100% sure are what they say they are. Heck, when you take MDMA you don't get every single gram of it you buy tested. Your playing the same game with the online vendors as you are with a dealer. Unless you test it every time, you don't know for sure.

I get the point you're making, but how relevant is it? I think everyone understands that they are taking something called "6-APB" and that it could be something completely different. Basically, the best we can do is risk Bio-assaying and comparing effects to trip reported "confirmed" 6-APB.
 
Fango said:
3 options there:

1. Take the vendors word for it, and compare to trip reports of what is reported as 6-APB
2. Get it tested by an independent lab.
3. Don't believe that its 6-APB

Basically, the only real option, is the one that nobody is going to front the money or resources to do. Even if they did, whats to stop it differing from batch to batch?

We are all playing a game here, and taking chemicals that we cant be 100% sure are what they say they are. Heck, when you take MDMA you don't get every single gram of it you buy tested. Your playing the same game with the online vendors as you are with a dealer. Unless you test it every time, you don't know for sure.

I get the point you're making, but how relevant is it? I think everyone understands that they are taking something called "6-APB" and that it could be something completely different. Basically, the best we can do is risk Bio-assaying and comparing effects to trip reported "confirmed" 6-APB.
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Very well put
 
Hello everyone. Just to let you all know I will be ordering 'Official' 6-apb in the next few days and look forward to letting you know how it goes :D
 
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