i was just wondering but are there pills that have like Herion and coke in them my friend was saying that they all have bases or something like that ive never heard of that befor so i was just wondering he said he could tell by the color i doubt that but lemme kno thanks.
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Simple answer: pills do not contain heroin or cocaine. The name "Ecstasy" ideally refers to a single chemical, MDMA, and ideally all pills should contain only MDMA as their active ingredient. There are no "bases", and the colors of pills come from food coloring, not from their contents. There's not even a "color-coding" system that pill pressers use -- it's entirely random.
Notice that I said "ideally" earlier. Yes, ideally, pills should contain only MDMA (or its relatives MDA, MDEA, etc.), but the reality of the situation is that pills often contain other active ingredients in order to make less MDMA go farther. Common "cuts" (i.e. other active ingredients) are caffeine, ephedrine, and amphetamine. Less common is methamphetamine, ketamine (which usually can't be felt at the doses they put in pills), and DXM. Very rarely you may find a pill with a 2cx-family chemical in it which people often mistake for LSD. You will never find heroin or cocaine in a pill (unless as a joke), because both have poor oral bioavailability (i.e. they require large doses if you eat them) and are pretty expensive. People who talk about "smacky rolls" are likely talking about unusually pure pills that contain just MDMA, since taking only MDMA can feel extremely relaxing (as opposed to "speedy pills" which contain caffeine, amphetamine, etc.)
Some pills contain hardly any MDMA at all if any...for instance, piperazines (amphetamine-like compounds, some of which are slightly psychedelic) have become a common and poor substitute for real MDMA. This is why it's important to test your pills with a testing kit, or least look up a recent report on them via pillreports.com. You can't know for sure what other substances are in your pill, even with a testing kit, but you can at least be sure it contains MDMA.
Summary:
- Pills should only contain MDMA. There's no need for them to be "based" on anything.
- In the real world, pills are cut with other substances to make up for having less MDMA.
- Pills are never cut with heroin or coke due to the cost and pointlessness of doing so.
- Color and print tell you *nothing* about a pill, aside from perhaps indicating that two pills came from the same batch and thus might have the same contents. You *cannot* tell the contents of a pill by its color, stamp, etc.
I hope that helps; stay safe and take care.
Notice that I said "ideally" earlier. Yes, ideally, pills should contain only MDMA (or its relatives MDA, MDEA, etc.), but the reality of the situation is that pills often contain other active ingredients in order to make less MDMA go farther. Common "cuts" (i.e. other active ingredients) are caffeine, ephedrine, and amphetamine. Less common is methamphetamine, ketamine (which usually can't be felt at the doses they put in pills), and DXM. Very rarely you may find a pill with a 2cx-family chemical in it which people often mistake for LSD. You will never find heroin or cocaine in a pill (unless as a joke), because both have poor oral bioavailability (i.e. they require large doses if you eat them) and are pretty expensive. People who talk about "smacky rolls" are likely talking about unusually pure pills that contain just MDMA, since taking only MDMA can feel extremely relaxing (as opposed to "speedy pills" which contain caffeine, amphetamine, etc.)
Some pills contain hardly any MDMA at all if any...for instance, piperazines (amphetamine-like compounds, some of which are slightly psychedelic) have become a common and poor substitute for real MDMA. This is why it's important to test your pills with a testing kit, or least look up a recent report on them via pillreports.com. You can't know for sure what other substances are in your pill, even with a testing kit, but you can at least be sure it contains MDMA.
Summary:
- Pills should only contain MDMA. There's no need for them to be "based" on anything.
- In the real world, pills are cut with other substances to make up for having less MDMA.
- Pills are never cut with heroin or coke due to the cost and pointlessness of doing so.
- Color and print tell you *nothing* about a pill, aside from perhaps indicating that two pills came from the same batch and thus might have the same contents. You *cannot* tell the contents of a pill by its color, stamp, etc.
I hope that helps; stay safe and take care.
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MazDan
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^^^^^^^^nice post RGB.
avcpl
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never say never! lol
http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=1701
but yes, very rare.
And while testing kits don't show the presence of piperazines as RGB says, lab testing through ecstasydata.org will, along with the ratios of the substances (excluding the inactive pill binders).
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peacefuldreamer09
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I still wonder about the first pills I took...2 that were reddish purple, my friend who is pushing 30 claimed that the color is what they are based off of and thought mine were heroin. (He told me this after) I thought he was full of crap. It was a really trippy roll and I loved everyone, hehe. I was still going for a good 12 hrs, but felt horrible the next day, anxiety, burning up then freezing. I've been incredibly careful since that first roll, and common sense always told me that using heroin would be extremely costly, you wouldn't be paying $10 a pill for that, lol.
happyland
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well said RGB!
omfg!!!!!!!! they do exist... feels like we stumbled onto a cave of sleeping trolls!!!! wtf! i always shrugged it off but then u see the data an damn... damn...
only from coakland would there be coke in a pill... but no this is some shit i live 45 minutes away from oakland this is seriuos shit... i wonder if there is an active dose in there? OD'ing on coke is no fun no fun ata all
only from coakland would there be coke in a pill... but no this is some shit i live 45 minutes away from oakland this is seriuos shit... i wonder if there is an active dose in there? OD'ing on coke is no fun no fun ata all
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i doubt thered be much coke, meth or pipes (or MDMA) in that pill. probably a few mgs of each, the meth would probably be wut youd mainly feel.
pipe bomb!
peacefuldreamer09
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I think it may have been cut with other amphetamines, that would make sense to me, since I had so much trouble sleeping...I wouldn't be surprised if they were really high mdma also, when they kicked in, it was like an orgasm, it was typical mdma exp x 10. Just come down was awful.
